VN Ren'Py Abandoned Bitch Squad [v0.4.7] [IcarusLabs]

[IcarusLabs]

If she was a psychopath, the only way she has a breakdown and starts crying is if she fakes one. And right now the only plausible reasons for it are:
a) she wants to show up the Rachel's sorority initiation is fucked up and not based on loyalty but in control; (small chance of being a reason, and even less chance to work)
b) she wants to make sure to Rachel she is non-threatening, cause she thinks Rachel is targeting her. (is more likely to be this reason, but it can backfire, Rachel might be even more vicious to Kate after she shows weakness and also hurt her reputation in the long run, seeing she is planning to take the lead.)

Maybe she is more of a sociopath then

 

[ilon55]

Well, the game is quite interesting but the latest update has left some sort of bad impression. A bad impression because it looks like it's another game with a fake revenge. Let's hope it doesn't turn out that, as in other such games, the villains aren't really villains or that we are forced to unconditionally forgive them because.... they are hot. The dumbest porn logic. Don't get me wrong, these games aren't that bad, the silliness can sometimes be quite funny, but how many times can you roll out the same theme? It gets boring. I like variety and it would be nice if this game was different. To make it different you need a real revenge, and for a satisfying revenge you need two things obligatorily - an inevitable punishment and a sincere apology. Only then you can think about redemption (players' choice). If it were my game I would leave the players no choice. I would punish the whole bitch squad without exception. I would only give a choice in what way and for how long to punish them. Yeah, without exception. Annie and Sarah may not be as guilty as the rest, but they are the deepest wound. It hurts the most when you are betrayed by family and (presumed) friends. Meanwhile, we already have the beginnings of a guilt trip and the same old song: Don't waste your time with a stupid revenge, be a "better" person, don't punish them at all just forgive them right away without apology, and you'll see how they'll turn into angels. Seemingly true, but boring, especially since the latter maxim is basically a fairy tale that good people want to believe in.

 

[DIRTY Filthy RAT]

It definitely makes a difference! It's either your fault or it's your friend's fault. Sarah doesn't know that you were involved.

EP3 will explore the fallout from her pictures being released, this wasn't just a throw away event, it has a big impact.

Really like mc teaming up with Miranda, not just cause she’s hot but she’s so powerful and dominating & she hates those bitches just as much as mc does.
Could see her as a dominatrix that will make those bitches into her personal slaves to kiss lick and suck her feet, pussy and ass, while she lets mc fuck them in their asses and records it

 

[IcarusLabs]

Well, the game is quite interesting but the latest update has left some sort of bad impression. A bad impression because it looks like it's another game with a fake revenge. Let's hope it doesn't turn out that, as in other such games, the villains aren't really villains or that we are forced to unconditionally forgive them because.... they are hot. The dumbest porn logic. Don't get me wrong, these games aren't that bad, the silliness can sometimes be quite funny, but how many times can you roll out the same theme? It gets boring. I like variety and it would be nice if this game was different. To make it different you need a real revenge, and for a satisfying revenge you need two things obligatorily - an inevitable punishment and a sincere apology. Only then you can think about redemption (players' choice). If it were my game I would leave the players no choice. I would punish the whole bitch squad without exception. I would only give a choice in what way and for how long to punish them. Yeah, without exception. Annie and Sarah may not be as guilty as the rest, but they are the deepest wound. It hurts the most when you are betrayed by family and (presumed) friends. Meanwhile, we already have the beginnings of a guilt trip and the same old song: Don't waste your time with a stupid revenge, be a "better" person, don't punish them at all just forgive them right away without apology, and you'll see how they'll turn into angels. Seemingly true, but boring, especially since the latter maxim is basically a fairy tale that good people want to believe in.

"The game is quite interesting, but the latest update left a bad impression" because "fake revenge".

There are at least two scenes with some pretty harsh revenge already. This is only EP2. There was no revenge in EP1. By definition, you got more revenge in this update. Kate, the top bitch, is crying her eyes out over it when it happens to her and continues later in her room sobbing to her friend. How much more revengy can you get?

I just don't understand comments like this.

 

[IcarusLabs]

Really like mc teaming up with Miranda, not just cause she’s hot but she’s so powerful and dominating & she hates those bitches just as much as mc does.
Could see her as a dominatrix that will make those bitches into her personal slaves to kiss lick and suck her feet, pussy and ass, while she lets mc fuck them in their asses and records it

Wow... Miranda sounds like a boss lol

 

[NoMansMind]

just don't frame Amber and Tommy as the bad ones, okay? (I already see that happening) they have every right to do what they do.
don't take the easy way out.
and after all that happened, there is NO (believable) WAY, that everyone comes clean out of this. SOMEONE has to suffer.
don't even try it.

and I don't care which hidden motives or agenda they have ("you don't know me!" blablabla). it's to late for that! at least Emma, Charlotte and Kate have to go down!

 

[IcarusLabs]

just don't frame Amber and Tommy as the bad ones, okay? (I already see that happening) they have every right to do what they do.
don't take the easy way out.
and after all that happened, there is NO (believable) WAY, that everyone comes clean out of this. SOMEONE has to suffer.
don't even try it.

Amber and Tommy got hurt bad. For real.

You and I are in agreement, no way everyone comes out clean.

 

[michael1984]

Man this game makes u really dislike some of the girls

And so far i feel the MC has not really gotten the payback he deserved

Cant wait to tear some of these girls down

 

[sabadongelov]

Wow... Miranda sounds like a boss lol

And now for something completely different:

I confess, I haven't played your game yet, only looked at the pictures at the first page. But before playing it, there is one thing I would like to know. From the title picture, I can see that you've done height differentiation for the women, some are taller, some are shorter. But when I look at the picture where the MC is next to any of the women (I'm assuming that the dude with the greasy 50ies haircut is the MC), he seems to be as short as the women, or maybe, sometimes, a tiny bit taller. Which would mean that he's extremely short for a man.

Is this intended? If yes, why? Is it part of the story of him being misstreated? And if no, why not make a reasonable height differentiation between the MC and the women, when you're already doing it for the women?

 

[Keyl]

Just wanted to say this was very enjoyable game. Who doesn't love a good revenge story and the most characters seems pretty fun.

Just a small negative would be the MC's scene after Sarah's picture got leaked felt pretty bad. I felt that the scene should've had a better follow up with the previous scene, if you disapproved the leak. At least have MC not be so excited, even if they were celebrating a win. I feel that maybe having MC not join in on the cheering or still voicing is disapproval of the tainted win is such a small touch that makes them more enjoyable.

Either way, keep up the good work.

 

[Skylaroo]

I can't quite make up my mind on whether I like this game or not. I feel like the Bitch Squad are portrayed so far as if they have good/valid reason as to why they were being bitches. Sarah is portrayed as a good character and she vouched for her friends. Annie was good to MC back then and she vouched for them too. Kate repeatedly said that MC just didn't know anything, etc. The problem that I have with this is that it could've been so easily solved had the girls (or Annie back then) just explained to MC what really happened and why. What's the purpose of keeping things secret?

It isn't strong enough of a hook to just keep on going with "they're actually good people and you just didn't know it" angle. To make it worse, I feel like the game has shown more of Amber and Tommy being bitches too. So which one is the Bitch Squad? The five girls, or the MC and the gang? I'm really undecided on this.

 

[IcarusLabs]

And now for something completely different:

I confess, I haven't played your game yet, only looked at the pictures at the first page. But before playing it, there is one thing I would like to know. From the title picture, I can see that you've done height differentiation for the women, some are taller, some are shorter. But when I look at the picture where the MC is next to any of the women (I'm assuming that the dude with the greasy 50ies haircut is the MC), he seems to be as short as the women, or maybe, sometimes, a tiny bit taller. Which would mean that he's extremely short for a man.

Is this intended? If yes, why? Is it part of the story of him being misstreated? And if no, why not make a reasonable height differentiation between the MC and the women, when you're already doing it for the women?

If you line up the models, the MC is taller than all of them, but Kate and Charlotte are already tall plus they usually are wearing heels. He would be considered average height. Maybe I can do a side by side at some point. Good question though.

 

[Mpkstroff]

Kate, the top bitch, is crying her eyes out over it when it happens to her and continues later in her room sobbing to her friend. How much more revengy can you get?

That was not enough. That was something momentaneous between two (or three) persons. MC in comparison was ridicule for a year by the whole school...
Are you saying that all that suffering is gone with the blowjob? Kinda hard to see that to be honest...

 

[IcarusLabs]

That was not enough. That was something momentaneous between two (or three) persons. MC in comparison was ridicule for a year by the whole school...
Are you saying that all that suffering is gone with the blowjob? Kinda hard to see that to be honest...

That's not what I said. Who said it was enough? I was comparing EP2 to EP1 pointing out that the revenge moments have already started and they were not "fake". Things will escalate as episodes continue. EP2 has more than EP1, EP3 having more than EP2, etc. That is a natural progression for any story. I get the feeling that there are people who want everything right away, all I can tell them is patience.

 

[Mareeeeta]

Really good update, definitively one of my favorite new games here.

Poor Sarah... I think she deserved better

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Best girl spotted, it was really hard to see her like that. But at the same time it's why I think the scene was working so well.

The only thing I didn't like was the next day, when the MC was talking about how great they did. He was against it, and feel something for her. I think it would have been more logical if he does have ressentment against his friend for this.

 

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[ilon55]

That's not what I said. Who said it was enough? I was comparing EP2 to EP1 pointing out that the revenge moments have already started and they were not "fake". Things will escalate as episodes continue. EP2 has more than EP1, EP3 having more than EP2, etc. That is a natural progression for any story. I get the feeling that there are people who want everything right away, all I can tell them is patience.

I used the term "fake" to refer to the too early turn towards forgiveness. I feel like the game is pushing us in that direction. But maybe I'm wrong and that wasn't your intention. IMO, the bitches don't deserve any compassion (yet).

There are at least two scenes with some pretty harsh revenge already. This is only EP2. There was no revenge in EP1. By definition, you got more revenge in this update. Kate, the top bitch, is crying her eyes out over it when it happens to her and continues later in her room sobbing to her friend. How much more revengy can you get?

I just don't understand comments like this.

You don't get it because your level of acceptance of cruelty is too low... or mine (and ppl like me) is too high. Dr. Freud would say that when I was a kid I heard a story I wasn't ready for. Basically a story about how thin the line is between love and hate. And no, it wasn't the Count of Monte Cristo. Long story short, some terrible vengeance ended with the vicious death of all three main characters. It was really really bad but at the same time very impressive.
So maybe I'd better keep quiet and my twisted mind won't give you any ideas because it could turn out to scare away more players than attracts.

Jokes aside. Your game, your rules. Good luck.

 

[sdawg1234]

Was a good update. Some things to nitpick about the obvious going along with the BJ even after realizing Sarah was using you.felt like you should've at least had choices similar to Kate's scene. I felt like you could've used a better transition from Ashley's date to Sarah's instead of just immediately being transported to the bench. Finally after Sarah's picture is released it goes to the sorority meeting the next day and she doesn't seem sad she's smiling pretty much until the decision. Outside of that it was a good update. Clearly this war will have many battles and casualties and not be solved in the first few chapters so I'm looking forward to seeing it play out.

 

[IcarusLabs]

I used the term "fake" to refer to the too early turn towards forgiveness. I feel like the game is pushing us in that direction. But maybe I'm wrong and that wasn't your intention. IMO, the bitches don't deserve any compassion (yet).


You don't get it because your level of acceptance of cruelty is too low... or mine (and ppl like me) is too high. Dr. Freud would say that when I was a kid I heard a story I wasn't ready for. Basically a story about how thin the line is between love and hate. And no, it wasn't the Count of Monte Cristo. Long story short, some terrible vengeance ended with the vicious death of all three main characters. It was really really bad but at the same time very impressive.
So maybe I'd better keep quiet and my twisted mind won't give you any ideas because it could turn out to scare away more players than attracts.

Jokes aside. Your game, your rules. Good luck.

Lol, childhood trauma, got it.

Don't expect a reenactment of the red wedding, but I've got somethings planned. Thanks for the support.

 

[IcarusLabs]

Was a good update. Some things to nitpick about the obvious going along with the BJ even after realizing Sarah was using you.felt like you should've at least had choices similar to Kate's scene. I felt like you could've used a better transition from Ashley's date to Sarah's instead of just immediately being transported to the bench. Finally after Sarah's picture is released it goes to the sorority meeting the next day and she doesn't seem sad she's smiling pretty much until the decision. Outside of that it was a good update. Clearly this war will have many battles and casualties and not be solved in the first few chapters so I'm looking forward to seeing it play out.

All good thoughts, thanks!