HTML Abandoned Blacked & Whited [v0.6.9] [BigEiffelTower]

[Trapquest]

feminize and fuck a black dude I imagine it's going to be fantastically unpopular and eventually stop being developed.

Ding dong, your opinion is wrong. Not only will Big Eiffel Tower probably get the vast majority of BBC cuckold fetishists with the blacked path, but he will get the niche (But not as niche as you think) base of fans who want to reverse the scenario and cuckold and feminize generic black thug types. I doubt it will be unpopular just because it *dares* to take a break from beating a long dead horse.

He might lose popularity with the niche audience of thin-skinned black-supremacists, but I doubt they would be generous with donations in the first place.

 

[jessy89]

offline?
lol very funny^^

 

[Big Eiffel Tower]

By grind, people normally mean doing the same actions over and over to finally get a different result. In an RPG it would be pulling up 100 carrots per day for 10 days to get an item. Now not all grind is bad as long as their is something being shown for the grind that is useful and tangible to the game. Every day you pull carrots you get money, you are getting stronger/more fit, because you are more fit you can join a body building competition or the girls look at you differently. You are still grinding, but it has tangible effects and each time is worth something even if a minor thing, versus you had to do all 10 days to get 1 point in strength and you need 5 more to get to the next scene, it doesn't feel worth it.

Grinds
The keyhole, your character has to check the bathroom what might be 10 times before they think to do anything about the key in it. Logically he would know the key is there, and logically he would think either after the first few times that he could remove/hide it. Having to get to what I assume was sister in shower moaning twice before he thought to do it which for me was 10+ looking at a blocked keyhole was grindy.

Other "grinds" would be it seems you have to watch like 10 softporn to move on, and 10 bj to hard, it may have been story related but you can't tell.

Kissing the GF 5 to 10 to get to breasts which is 5 to 10, to get to ass which is 5 to 10, having to do the same thing 30 times to get anywhere is not something people like, a lot of it also is that it is the exact same text all the time, which makes it feel worse. So having the GF and the MC say the same things on try 1 and 5, then on 6 and 10, there feels like no progression or even no change, her saying something different, mother coming in, a nipple flick or whatever makes it seem more alive and less dig the same hole 10 times to get a carrot.

Some things make other things seem longer or grindier. I think the other part of the "grind" is that it is in its own full page, as I said before the game plays/loads slow, it isn't click and instant load, more like 1-2 seconds on click before the new thing shows, so a slow click to go there, then a slow click for the hole, then getting sent to kitchen which then you see ass and the end of character content for 10th time.

Some errors are the relationships rooms even if left as is say relationshipM's$room and relationshipS's$room rather than name or relationship.

Checking bathroom makes you go to "lunch" instead of breakfast so may want to fix that.

I think theo's house was named french.

As mentioned trophy and other whole sets of conversation are french, I didn't check the whole game though.


Small tips:

Either set up button pushes or allow player made keybinds to press them (1, 2 ,3 etc.), so you can use a number pad, or some other keyboard keybind to play the game, scrolling and clicking in a lot of html games can be hell on the wrist.

Try as hard as you can to keep each "page" without scrolling, unless of course new things happen. Again helps the player wrist and readability.

Also a small tutorial explaining what the white/blacked at the top means and what the stat bars mean/do/which side is what.

Sorry if this is a bit rambling, is kind of hard to explain a bunch of people's thoughts on something.

Wow thank you for your very clear, complete, and informative answer.

I was very hesitant to make the evolution and progress clear (marking in bold: +1 Whited point, +1 girlfriend's corruption, etc). I thinks it breaks the immersion, and I personally like cryptic games, but it seems that my preferences are in the minority, or that my grind/reward ratio is not satisfying enough.

I'll reread and think about everything you told me. I also found your tips very interesting, if you have others, don't hesitate.

 

[Dipsode]

Pas mal.. Pas de problème avec Firefox ni Gogol Chrome pour moi.
Plantage avec IE, Opera, Edge et Safari (essentiellement des variables mal initialisées en javascript)

Quelques longueurs et répétitions, mais faut bien que les choses évoluent, je suppose, un peu de patience...
Deux erreurs repérées :
- Des inversion de noms dans les dialogues entre le mc et sa copie.
- Et dans les choix à la maison on retrouve $relationsm et $relationss, pas les noms choisis

Sinon les histoire de noir et de blanc .. ben dans la mesure où je ne vois pas ce qu'il y a de plus excitant à voir baiser un noir plutôt qu'un blanc, le côté "interracial" ne me semble pas érotique ni porno du tout.
Au passage, je ne vois pas non plus ce qu'il y a de si excitant à voir une nana fumer (pas dans ce jeux, mais dans certains pornos..)
Question de culture, sans doute...

Désolé pas le temps de traduire moi-même, le boulot m'attend

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Not bad... No problem with Firefox or Gogol Chrome for me.
Crash with IE, Opera, Edge and Safari (mainly variables not properly initialized in javascript)

A few lengths and repetitions, but things have to evolve, I suppose, a little patience...
Two errors identified:
- Name inversion in dialogues between the mc and its copy.
- And in the choices at home we find $relationsm and $relationss, not the names chosen

Otherwise the black and white stuff... well, since I don't see the most exciting thing to see a black man fucking instead of a white man, the "interracial" side doesn't seem erotic or porn at all.
By the way, I also don't see what's so exciting about seeing a chick smoking (not in this game, but in some pornos...)
A question of culture, no doubt....

Sorry no time to translate myself, I have work to do

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[somebodynobody]

Wow thank you for your very clear, complete, and informative answer.

I was very hesitant to make the evolution and progress clear (marking in bold: +1 Whited point, +1 girlfriend's corruption, etc). I thinks it breaks the immersion, and I personally like cryptic games, but it seems that my preferences are in the minority, or that my grind/reward ratio is not satisfying enough.

I'll reread and think about everything you told me. I also found your tips very interesting, if you have others, don't hesitate.

It doesn't have to not be cryptic, it just has to make sense.

If a player does Option 1 which all the text says it is doing Thing A, but instead they get points in Thing B, the player is going to complain. So even if it is "cryptic" it should still make sense especially if a player figures it out.


A player always needs information to play a game, in an RPG if you went into a weapons store and saw a list of weapons all the same price, but nothing about stats or damage types, you would assume maybe they are all the same, but then you go and fight a monster and turns out you got a weak weapon with the wrong damage type. You would be miffed the game didn't give you critical information.

Again cryptic can be kept, like you don't have to do +15 charisma, but having a random girl cat call your character or try to have lunch with you, and does it more often the higher you progressed, shows gain while not saying you now have 50 charisma. New things happening that are linked with your progression, say you decided not to shower in the game for 3 weeks, people keeping away from you, gf avoiding you, moussa not wanting your shit money, and it would be a hard hit for a long time in game to regain those relationships, this is still progression upon a chosen path and the longer he went without showering the more people stayed away.


By tutorial I mean.

At the top left of the page the word blacked or whited would show up, I as a player can't tell if that has anything to do with my actions? It didn't seem like it. It was whited for a batch of days before the GF let me try to finger her then it said Blacked. So no clue on how that works or if it is even a mechanic or a gif that changes randomly.

The "weak white boy" bar, there is no info about it, so is it a health meter? Is more black being more blacked, or is it just showing that the bar is more depleted?

The blue/pink with male and female symbols makes sense to people who have played sissy games, but to someone new, it might mean you have more guys who like you than girls? Even though it seems like a feminity meter.

 

[Viper]

Quick Question. How the Hell can I get Money in that game?!

 

[baneini]

Big Eiffel Tower will get the BBC cuckold fetishists with the blacked path

Yes the market for that exist.

he will get the niche (But not as niche as you think) base of fans who want to reverse the scenario and cuckold and feminize generic black thug types.

Games about you sissifying black men don't exist because people dont ask for it or want to make it. Black women are unpopular in porn relative to any other ethnicity. The straight audience most likely doesn't want their playable character to dominate a black man sexually, dominating a pale skin native isekai girl would be the preferable option.

Taking the meta social ladder race relations of US society into account cucking a black guy doesn't make sense. It'd be like a white guy degrading himself to take a black guys leftovers. Once you go black we dont want you back and so on. A lukewarm scenario at best.

Where do you see this sizable niche market in gaming? Are they going to pay for it when half of the game is bbc cuckold stuff?

 

[somebodynobody]

Quick Question. How the Hell can I get Money in that game?!

You can't as of now.

 

[Trapquest]

Games about you sissifying black men don't exist because people dont ask for it or want to make it. Black women are unpopular in porn relative to any other ethnicity. The straight audience most likely doesn't want their playable character to dominate a black man sexually, dominating a pale skin native isekai girl would be the preferable option.

Taking the meta social ladder race relations of US society into account cucking a black guy doesn't make sense. It'd be like a white guy degrading himself to take a black guys leftovers. Once you go black we dont want you back and so on. A lukewarm scenario at best.

Where do you see this sizable niche market in gaming? Are they going to pay for it when half of the game is bbc cuckold stuff?

First off, even if black women are unpopular relative to other races in porn doesn't mean they don't have a die-hard fanbase, frankly, sissy games in general are way less popular than regular games in the first place and by your logic shouldn't even be pursued.

As for the straight audience not wanting to dominate a black man sexually, if it's about cucking him and taking his girlfriend, then they probably actually do, there are a lot of folks who are attracted pretty indiscriminately to pretty women regardless of race, and dominating a "tough-guy" thug type is a basic well worked stereotype that goes back decades as a successful trope, it can easily be applied to a porn scenario it just usually isn't, because it isn't seen as 'taboo', but there are plenty of taboo elements enough in stealing a guys girlfriend and building up a harem for yourself anyways, frankly, getting his mom on the action for some black milf content could also be great.

For the non-straight or feminization fetishist audiences, turning a black man into a sissy is a novel concept that is rarely explored, and there are enough people who want it. There is an entire market on image-boards and porn forums for "bleached" image edits and white on black interracial porn with race-play dialogue, this market absolutely exists and I've seen it first-hand, only reason it hasn't caught on in the porn game community is because nobody tries making it, given that BBC is a more easily monetized marketing strategy, Eiffel has solved the conundrum by just doing both.

From what I've gathered your entire argument against this game is "Black women aren't attractive" and "Women that black men have touched aren't attractive" which would invalidate the whole BBC fetish anyways unless you're saying everyone into BBC is just straight up gay for black men, but I doubt you actually believe that. I think you're just closed minded and making a bunch of assumptions that support your preferences because you want more pure BBC games, which is fine, but you're still wrong.

 

[baneini]

First off you're still wrong.

Maybe all those people you claim exist will donate lots of money to this game, I doubt it however. I assume the race-play folk are into different aspects of it rather than " turning a black man into a sissy". Like they might prefer a game where you simply steal a black guys black gf who is tattooed with a qoh and she later reads on the news that his ex is in jail for drugs, without the sissification aspect.
You can make the harem angle work by stealing a thugs gf, the race is just not very strong element by itself.

 

[Trapquest]

That's just your personal opinion, I've seen evidence to the contrary. The fact that black sissification is so rarely tried in porn in general, and literally never in porn games, just demonstrates that it would be immensely novel, which in my opinion will make it more popular, not less.

There are plenty of games which divide their focus, people aren't going to forsake this game because it did the same thing. For some people, yes half the content they don't want, but niche audiences deal with that way more than the mainstream fans of mainstream fetishes, if you're saying that they don't have the patience to deal with that I'm pretty sure the enthusiasm to keep such a rare thing going will keep the game afloat just fine.

 

[kielbasa_sauce]

Wow thank you for your very clear, complete, and informative answer.

I was very hesitant to make the evolution and progress clear (marking in bold: +1 Whited point, +1 girlfriend's corruption, etc). I thinks it breaks the immersion, and I personally like cryptic games, but it seems that my preferences are in the minority, or that my grind/reward ratio is not satisfying enough.

I'll reread and think about everything you told me. I also found your tips very interesting, if you have others, don't hesitate.

I have to agree the Grind is real in this game and kills my desire to give it a chance. Anyone who invests time into making a game, I would imagine, would want their work in their entirety to be appreciated and not put behind a barrier of a boring mechanic.

 

[PandaLulz]

I actually think the grind is tolerable to a certain extent, it's a slow 'degradation/progression' of the characters, for example the girlfriend not 'giving out' instantly and you have to keep at it - that is really nicely done. Although everyone has their own opinions.

I think this is a great start Big Eiffel, I look forward to more of the family, best friend, rival parts. MC is needing some work routes, there needs to be more sense of activity. And I would possibly remove the slow adding text on the classroom part - that sort thing usually annoys people.

 

[happybrother]

It's a shame this game is so grindy to the point of me thinking "did I just reach end of content"?
Repeating the SAME situations 3x to advance is BORING.

And the issue I have is not with a grind, but the artificial extra 2s DELAY between clicking sth and waiting for the next page to appear. This makes clicking through the repeatable routine much slower than it should be.

I hope sb will post a good save when the next version appears.

 

[Wickersham]

so i downloaded the offline version but due to the odd file type for the resources, it wont load the game when i run the exe

 

[Botopa]

so i downloaded the offline version but due to the odd file type for the resources, it wont load the game when i run the exe

There is no exe it's an html file, after extracting the archive just drag and drop the BaW-0.3.3-public-offline-2.html into an open browser window.

 

[Wickersham]

There is no exe it's an html file, after extracting the archive just drag and drop the BaW-0.3.3-public-offline-2.html into an open browser window.

The html is what i meant. In the folder, there is the html executable and the baw resource that comes up as a baw file. when i run the html, it pulls up a window but doesnt load the game properly, it just loads until it says there was an error without really going anywhere

 

[Botopa]

The html is what i meant. In the folder, there is the html executable and the baw resource that comes up as a baw file. when i run the html, it pulls up a window but doesnt load the game properly, it just loads until it says there was an error without really going anywhere

Did you 'run' the file or did you drag and drop it into an open browser window? Sometimes the OS is setup to open html files in other programs (ie. because I often have to edit html files, my system is setup to open html files in a text editor when i simply run them)

 

[215303j]

My opinion:
(snip)
Edit: responses from the dev after I posted this does make me more hopeful for this game's future.

@Big Eiffel Tower :
Thanks for the further clarifications and best of luck with the further development!

 

[TiffanyMonroe]

So... are we getting black sissies or should I start a riot?