Fuckerx1

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Ding dong, your opinion is wrong. Not only will Big Eiffel Tower probably get the vast majority of BBC cuckold fetishists with the blacked path, but he will get the niche (But not as niche as you think) base of fans who want to reverse the scenario and cuckold and feminize generic black thug types. I doubt it will be unpopular just because it *dares* to take a break from beating a long dead horse.

He might lose popularity with the niche audience of thin-skinned black-supremacists, but I doubt they would be generous with donations in the first place.
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Wickersham

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Did you 'run' the file or did you drag and drop it into an open browser window? Sometimes the OS is setup to open html files in other programs (ie. because I often have to edit html files, my system is setup to open html files in a text editor when i simply run them)
I "ran" it, it auto opens a chrome window
 

Big Eiffel Tower

Pornplayer and `Blacked & Whited` developer
Donor
Game Developer
May 23, 2019
59
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It doesn't have to not be cryptic, it just has to make sense.

If a player does Option 1 which all the text says it is doing Thing A, but instead they get points in Thing B, the player is going to complain. So even if it is "cryptic" it should still make sense especially if a player figures it out.


A player always needs information to play a game, in an RPG if you went into a weapons store and saw a list of weapons all the same price, but nothing about stats or damage types, you would assume maybe they are all the same, but then you go and fight a monster and turns out you got a weak weapon with the wrong damage type. You would be miffed the game didn't give you critical information.

Again cryptic can be kept, like you don't have to do +15 charisma, but having a random girl cat call your character or try to have lunch with you, and does it more often the higher you progressed, shows gain while not saying you now have 50 charisma. New things happening that are linked with your progression, say you decided not to shower in the game for 3 weeks, people keeping away from you, gf avoiding you, moussa not wanting your shit money, and it would be a hard hit for a long time in game to regain those relationships, this is still progression upon a chosen path and the longer he went without showering the more people stayed away.


By tutorial I mean.

At the top left of the page the word blacked or whited would show up, I as a player can't tell if that has anything to do with my actions? It didn't seem like it. It was whited for a batch of days before the GF let me try to finger her then it said Blacked. So no clue on how that works or if it is even a mechanic or a gif that changes randomly.

The "weak white boy" bar, there is no info about it, so is it a health meter? Is more black being more blacked, or is it just showing that the bar is more depleted?

The blue/pink with male and female symbols makes sense to people who have played sissy games, but to someone new, it might mean you have more guys who like you than girls? Even though it seems like a feminity meter.
Thanks x2, very intesresting, and you made my week program. Feel free to join the discord of the game :)

It's a shame this game is so grindy to the point of me thinking "did I just reach end of content"?
Repeating the SAME situations 3x to advance is BORING.

And the issue I have is not with a grind, but the artificial extra 2s DELAY between clicking sth and waiting for the next page to appear. This makes clicking through the repeatable routine much slower than it should be.

I hope sb will post a good save when the next version appears.
Indeed, I have tried effects that do not have the expected result. With all your feedback (thanks for that), this aspect will improve dramatically with next release.

So... are we getting black sissies or should I start a riot? :sneaky:
Be careful Che Guevara, or I'm going to implement a gulag on the next release especially for you.


Yes the market for that exist.

Games about you sissifying black men don't exist because people dont ask for it or want to make it. Black women are unpopular in porn relative to any other ethnicity. The straight audience most likely doesn't want their playable character to dominate a black man sexually, dominating a pale skin native isekai girl would be the preferable option.

Taking the meta social ladder race relations of US society into account cucking a black guy doesn't make sense. It'd be like a white guy degrading himself to take a black guys leftovers. Once you go black we dont want you back and so on. A lukewarm scenario at best.

Where do you see this sizable niche market in gaming? Are they going to pay for it when half of the game is bbc cuckold stuff?
First off, even if black women are unpopular relative to other races in porn doesn't mean they don't have a die-hard fanbase, frankly, sissy games in general are way less popular than regular games in the first place and by your logic shouldn't even be pursued.

As for the straight audience not wanting to dominate a black man sexually, if it's about cucking him and taking his girlfriend, then they probably actually do, there are a lot of folks who are attracted pretty indiscriminately to pretty women regardless of race, and dominating a "tough-guy" thug type is a basic well worked stereotype that goes back decades as a successful trope, it can easily be applied to a porn scenario it just usually isn't, because it isn't seen as 'taboo', but there are plenty of taboo elements enough in stealing a guys girlfriend and building up a harem for yourself anyways, frankly, getting his mom on the action for some black milf content could also be great.

For the non-straight or feminization fetishist audiences, turning a black man into a sissy is a novel concept that is rarely explored, and there are enough people who want it. There is an entire market on image-boards and porn forums for "bleached" image edits and white on black interracial porn with race-play dialogue, this market absolutely exists and I've seen it first-hand, only reason it hasn't caught on in the porn game community is because nobody tries making it, given that BBC is a more easily monetized marketing strategy, Eiffel has solved the conundrum by just doing both.

From what I've gathered your entire argument against this game is "Black women aren't attractive" and "Women that black men have touched aren't attractive" which would invalidate the whole BBC fetish anyways unless you're saying everyone into BBC is just straight up gay for black men, but I doubt you actually believe that. I think you're just closed minded and making a bunch of assumptions that support your preferences because you want more pure BBC games, which is fine, but you're still wrong.
Interresting debate. As @baneni said, Whited is not a thing, and that's why we are going to build it. This path will be very experimental, and we will explore many new situations (some are already emerging quite clearly, others are planned). Your feedback, your ideas, your preferences will slowly refine this path. The Whited trip will not be at all an equivalent of the Blacked trip with just the words "black" and "white" reversed. And when we start thinking about how much we could connect to this (alphaïzation, initation quest, white on asian, etc), we realize that it's not just about sissify or cuck a black guy.

That's why I broadly agree with Trapquest's opinion that the audience will be there. I am actually surprised at the audience it has already received. I expect a lower audience for the Whited path at first, but the better it gets and the more people will get used to it, the more popular it will become. In a more distant way, I also think that black women are currently very undervalued, and that this should be corrected in the coming years.

In any case, behind the question of the audience is the economic viability of the project. If we can only speculate on the future audience, for the economic viability I am sure that the project will stop as soon as my landlord throws me out on the street because I haven't paid the rent. ;)
 

Big Eiffel Tower

Pornplayer and `Blacked & Whited` developer
Donor
Game Developer
May 23, 2019
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Peter Moleneyx promising experimental never seen before situations.
You'll be able to do anything.
Haha, nice one. I'll try not to follow in Peter's footsteps (who makes excellent games despite everything)
 

somebodynobody

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May 11, 2017
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I guess as an idea or tip.

When you finish making the next version. Make an estimate on time it should take to go from beginning to end, sit down and play it yourself, but play it like a new player would, using the clues the game gives, have a stop watch going until you reach the end, maybe use a notepad to note anything you felt off.

Now look at the difference between how long it took you for 1 path beginning to end of your guess and the real time. If there are any large differences try and account for them and figure the pain points.

Other basic tips is try to use WebP/WebM file formats to save on game size, Try to keep the videos/images roughly the same dimensions so you don't have random tiny videos and giant 8k images, this also allows you to design the game to fit to screen. Lastly I would say look at the other HTML games on here and figure if there are any "mechanics" or ideas you can borrow.

https://f95zone.to/forums/games.2/?prefix_id=4

A lot are not great, but getting ideas is always worth it.
 

dingo4life

Member
Oct 20, 2016
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Cool game, I've seen stuff like this before, as fucked up as it sounds I think the more common term is actually "Bleached" for the reverse of "Blacked", at least that's what I've seen it called as around the net. Cool concept, it's an underrated niche. Once your done with implementing some lovely Black ladies I hope you also get in some Asian ones as they seriously don't get much love in real porn games either, except maybe Asa Akira once in awhile.
 

Wonka_Willy

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Nov 5, 2018
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Normally im not a fan of this kind of game but ... i like him really, there is not a lot of thing for the moment (the game is new) but writing is pretty good so keep working you have a new donator ;)
 

Daishi

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Jan 7, 2018
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m2f for the moment but maybe sissy is comming later
Thank you.

You know what would be awesome (and almost impossible to find in games)? Being gay without having to be a sissy or transition into a woman. I mean, you can be dominant and like to be with men. And you can be submissive, and still be a man. That's the path I'd like to see m/m content where both are actual men.
Yeah, gay is fine to me. Everyone has their things. M2F is pretty good... but I hate it when they go TF!M2F and its pure sissy shit.
 

xxx_chris2018

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Oct 29, 2018
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Yeah, gay is fine to me. Everyone has their things. M2F is pretty good... but I hate it when they go TF!M2F and its pure sissy shit.
I mean, to each her/his own, but I'd really like to find games that just have m/m content where the men are men. Not wolves, or bulls, or women, or traps, etc. That's cool if you like that and I play those games because that's the content that's out there. I just prefer good old men fucking men, hahaha. I know it's not a huge market, but definitely what I'm looking for (and trying to write my own as well).
 

xxx_chris2018

Member
Oct 29, 2018
285
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At the end of the day, some men just want to fuck blokes!
That part! So Big Eiffel Tower , I see that you are on here. Just keep in mind that there are some people looking forward to that gay tag being accurate. And that some of us would like both the dominant and submissive path to include m/m content where we get to stay a man. I'm not sure if you have everything planned out yet (I know I just make shit up on the fly in my game), but I'd love it if that was the path that we were able to play.

Thanks!
 

Potoum

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Apr 28, 2018
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I've no problem loading media in the online version, but in the offline version i keep getting error in 3 different browser.
*Error: cannot execute macro <<image>>: media_resources is not defined<<image data/default/dropnaming.gif 50>>
or the flag won't load...
*Error: <<set>>: bad evaluation: media_resources is not defined<<set _enFlag='<img id="lang_english" src="' + setup.findMedia("data/default/flag/english2.png") + '">'>>

I was about to download java but clearly it isn't the problem, I've no idea why it doesn't work offline but does online.
Try a 4th browser goolag chrome, site permission javascript allowed and i did install java/oracle from the site too.
Still not working(media loading).
my html run from "file:///E:/WWWWWWW/GAMES/BaW-0.3.3-public-offline/offline/BaW-0.3.3-public-offline-2.html"
so it should be looking there for the .baw/pak/zip media... is it? I don't know. Will try the online version, see what this game has to offer.
 
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fredinator

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Jun 23, 2017
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I've no problem loading media in the online version, but in the offline version i keep getting error in 3 different browser.
*Error: cannot execute macro <<image>>: media_resources is not defined<<image data/default/dropnaming.gif 50>>
or the flag won't load...
*Error: <<set>>: bad evaluation: media_resources is not defined<<set _enFlag='<img id="lang_english" src="' + setup.findMedia("data/default/flag/english2.png") + '">'>>

I was about to download java but clearly it isn't the problem, I've no idea why it doesn't work offline but does online.
Try a 4th browser goolag chrome, site permission javascript allowed and i did install java/oracle from the site too.
Still not working(media loading).
my html run from "file:///E:/WWWWWWW/GAMES/BaW-0.3.3-public-offline/offline/BaW-0.3.3-public-offline-2.html"
so it should be looking there for the .baw/pak/zip media... is it? I don't know. Will try the online version, see what this game has to offer.
I had a weird issue where it would always say that I couldn't write to disk. After clearing all my cookies it worked again
 
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