HTML Abandoned Blacked & Whited [v0.6.9] [BigEiffelTower]

[Trapquest]

I kind of never liked the idea of closed paths, I mean... personally I'm always a rags to riches kind of player, I wouldn't have any problem letting everything go wrong if I can still recover, even if it's harder.

I just feel it a bigger limit than expected that we have to follow the white or black path, it would make more sense to make it a flag system rather, with the rival pushing for more with time, you needing strength before he pushes too much, but well that's just my opinion,

That's your take, but if you want to experience both sides all you have to do is use two saves. By doing it by your suggestion, even if people only make dom decisions, if they don't do enough of them or fast enough, they'll be exposed to content they might actually hate. Imo, it's just better in every single way to make the blacked whited point system opt-in like it has been so far, there's no reason to introduce blacked themes into a playthrough unless the player starts persuing that of their own initiative, it's also easier to develop the system that way as well. Bringing a date-tracker or a timer into it with event flags that pressure the player with the threat of getting cucked just sounds counter-productive and outright annoying to me, and judging by earlier comments and one or two reviews on this thread I'm probably not the only one.

 

[Zar]

Gotta love the fact the developer added an annoying mechanic (the stink thing) to force you into the room that has the cheat check to insure you aren't cheating your way over the paywall...

 

[JoleenStar]

The gay content will be fully avoidable.
Concerning feminization, no decision has yet been taken. Ideally it would be great to avoid feminization or choose to masculinize yourself even by taking the blacked path, but it adds a lot of work! So, maybe when the story is very advanced.

When can we expect more story though?

 

[happybrother]

Could somebody upload some saves please?
Preferable from dominated Whited side.
(I hate having to re-grind stuff from start. Especially that transitions were slooow. Now they're slightly faster)

 

[DawnCry]

That's your take, but if you want to experience both sides all you have to do is use two saves. By doing it by your suggestion, even if people only make dom decisions, if they don't do enough of them or fast enough, they'll be exposed to content they might actually hate. Imo, it's just better in every single way to make the blacked whited point system opt-in like it has been so far, there's no reason to introduce blacked themes into a playthrough unless the player starts persuing that of their own initiative, it's also easier to develop the system that way as well. Bringing a date-tracker or a timer into it with event flags that pressure the player with the threat of getting cucked just sounds counter-productive and outright annoying to me, and judging by earlier comments and one or two reviews on this thread I'm probably not the only one.

As a content gate you are right, as a game? nope. It kind of depends on what you seek, it may sound annoying to you but that's because you just fear that content, even if it gets added you could just have difficulty settings to make it really easy to evade for those that don't want it, while giving something more challenging for the rest and at the same time it would make the game more alive.

I'm one of the weird ones that see adult games as games rather than H content. But even going back to the other part that you didn't answer, what is related to white and black side? what if I don't want to see it to the fullest or only want a part of it? I asked for example the femdom fetish, just because someone likes femdom doesn't mean that they want to get cucked in the black path.

Of course it's easier to code it but that doesn't mean that it would be a good system. But well, in the end everyone has their opinnion.

 

[Extrauser]

Anyone know how to unlock member/patreon content?

 

[elldix]

Anyone know how to unlock member/patreon content?

Well... become a member/patron? that's pretty obvious

 

[Alavili]

It is also something I want to make possible, it would be awesome. It won't be for now, but when the game is very advanced I want to set up a tool to modify the game by changing the media. With this tool a player will be able to "change perspectives" in any way he wants, for example by choosing images with an Asian girlfriend and a Caucasian rival, etc.

I see. That's great to hear. Just hope you don't spread too thin with all the plans you have. And you seems to have many plans for it.

As for the dominant path taking more effort, I don't really mind that. I just hope the the pay-off is matching the build-up.

 

[Proto Persona]

As a content gate you are right, as a game? nope. It kind of depends on what you seek, it may sound annoying to you but that's because you just fear that content, even if it gets added you could just have difficulty settings to make it really easy to evade for those that don't want it, while giving something more challenging for the rest and at the same time it would make the game more alive.

I'm one of the weird ones that see adult games as games rather than H content. But even going back to the other part that you didn't answer, what is related to white and black side? what if I don't want to see it to the fullest or only want a part of it? I asked for example the femdom fetish, just because someone likes femdom doesn't mean that they want to get cucked in the black path.

Of course it's easier to code it but that doesn't mean that it would be a good system. But well, in the end everyone has their opinnion.

Not every game needs to be a sandbox experience where you can unlock the all content in a single playthrough. Not everyone wants to play Summertime Saga: Now With More Gay!

I think the dev is going for more of a visual novel game with a definite ending.

 

[Smallfrie]

Not every game needs to be a sandbox experience where you can unlock the all content in a single playthrough. Not everyone wants to play Summertime Saga: Now With More Gay!

I think the dev is going for more of a visual novel game with a definite ending.

That s absolutely true.
Differences that makes life enjoyable and colorful. (if you implement it well only of course)

 

[miller205]

ok just downloaded 6.2 loaded my save from 6.1 when i go to the girlfriend house when i click on take her to bed it shows a lot of errors

 

[DawnCry]

Not every game needs to be a sandbox experience where you can unlock the all content in a single playthrough. Not everyone wants to play Summertime Saga: Now With More Gay!

I think the dev is going for more of a visual novel game with a definite ending.

I would like to ask the relation between what I said and what you got in your message, because really, your message is ok but I don't find the link between what I said and that.

I did critic 2 things:

1º That I don't find black and white system a good system as a content gate because you may be interested in things that may happen on the black path (like femdom) but not be interested in being cucked for example. Following this reasoning I just mean that going into 2 paths is unefficient as a content gate.

2º That being 2 closed paths destroy alternative situations, like what I said from "rags to riches", in the sense of being pushed around but at some point managing to push back and getting a really sweet revenge, but that's just an example. What I did critic is having to be commited towards a path which would limit a lot the opportunities.

In fact the main point of my message isn't to get everything on a single playthrough but rather I critic that I have to fully commit to a path and the possible no flexibility that players would get as a result. Even if you like to be dominant or submissive people have different limits, for example you may like to play as a dominant man but it doesn't mean you enjoy treating girls like objects or slaves, I hope it is easier to understand my message now.

 

[Proto Persona]

I would like to ask the relation between what I said and what you got in your message, because really, your message is ok but I don't find the link between what I said and that.

I did critic 2 things:

1º That I don't find black and white system a good system as a content gate because you may be interested in things that may happen on the black path (like femdom) but not be interested in being cucked for example. Following this reasoning I just mean that going into 2 paths is unefficient as a content gate.

2º That being 2 closed paths destroy alternative situations, like what I said from "rags to riches", in the sense of being pushed around but at some point managing to push back and getting a really sweet revenge, but that's just an example. What I did critic is having to be commited towards a path which would limit a lot the opportunities.

In fact the main point of my message isn't to get everything on a single playthrough but rather I critic that I have to fully commit to a path and the possible no flexibility that players would get as a result. Even if you like to be dominant or submissive people have different limits, for example you may like to play as a dominant man but it doesn't mean you enjoy treating girls like objects or slaves, I hope it is easier to understand my message now.

I guess I didn't get the point you were making. Honestly unless the dev makes a deep adjustment to the game then you're probably out of luck. From what I've seen so far I'm not sure this dev is up to the challenge of intertwining mechanics like that, both from a coder's ability and a writer's.

 

[DawnCry]

I guess I didn't get the point you were making. Honestly unless the dev makes a deep adjustment to the game then you're probably out of luck. From what I've seen so far I'm not sure this dev is up to the challenge of intertwining mechanics like that, both from a coder's ability and a writer's.

Don't worry mate, I just wanted to explain it further to show my point more clearly and... yeah I think I'm out of luck haha, I know I kind of ask a lot in that sense, but that's how I find a game fulfilling. Following a route and getting rainbows or missery isn't my style, but well that's about it .

 

[Mack Truck]

Console Commands->

Like most HTML games its built on Sugarcube so it dead easy to cheat.

open your browsers console and type:
SugarCube.State.active.__getUpperName__

This lists all the variables, you can either click on the values and edit them (only works in chrome) or type them in i.e.

SugarCube.State.active.__getUpperName__.player.excitation =100
SugarCube.State.active.__getUpperName__.player.gender.body.feminity=100
SugarCube.State.active.__getUpperName__.player.body.boobs=10

Case is important.

Save often as you can completely break your game by messing with the wrong variable.

Main thread for this is here:
https://f95zone.to/threads/how-to-debug-or-cheat-twine-sugarcube-variables.6553/

I've found 4 variables for shapes of boobs & 6 sizes. But I've yet to find the variable for dick size. I think it's "sex" size set at 2 for ordinary, but every time I adjust it, it resets.

Did he lock it behind a paywall?

 

[Zar]

I've found 4 variables for shapes of boobs & 6 sizes. But I've yet to find the variable for dick size. I think it's "sex" size set at 2 for ordinary, but every time I adjust it, it resets.

Did he lock it behind a paywall?

Any time you go to the bathroom it resets, pretty sure it's the reason for the whole stink mechanic he added... so you are forced to go to the bathroom regularly.

you can see the event for a different size dick by changing it and going to the room and jacking without visiting the bathroom.

 

[Big Eiffel Tower]

I kind of never liked the idea of closed paths, I mean... personally I'm always a rags to riches kind of player, I wouldn't have any problem letting everything go wrong if I can still recover, even if it's harder. I just find it truly enjoyable when someone believes that they have won, they feel complacent and then... suddenly I manage to push them down, perhaps it's a bit sadistic from me but I truly enjoy pushing characters(especially with evil characters) from their highest point to their lowest. I find that type of revenge much more sweat.

Now that i think about it... is it possible to ditch your girlfriend on the white path? or perhaps even take a different girl as a girlfriend?. I almost never like the starting girlfriend in any game. In fact I would like to ask about the limits of the two paths, can a character like femdom and be on the white path?, even if you are on the black one, can you evade getting cucked?.

I just feel it a bigger limit than expected that we have to follow the white or black path, it would make more sense to make it a flag system rather, with the rival pushing for more with time, you needing strength before he pushes too much, but well that's just my opinion,

That's your take, but if you want to experience both sides all you have to do is use two saves. By doing it by your suggestion, even if people only make dom decisions, if they don't do enough of them or fast enough, they'll be exposed to content they might actually hate. Imo, it's just better in every single way to make the blacked whited point system opt-in like it has been so far, there's no reason to introduce blacked themes into a playthrough unless the player starts persuing that of their own initiative, it's also easier to develop the system that way as well. Bringing a date-tracker or a timer into it with event flags that pressure the player with the threat of getting cucked just sounds counter-productive and outright annoying to me, and judging by earlier comments and one or two reviews on this thread I'm probably not the only one.

Yeah I understand ur pov DownCry as I also fking love full open world. I consider B&W as a half open world. There is the main story with the main characters (gf, best friend, rival, your home's blondes) in which you will have to make non optional definitive choices, and the Black & White City that is the open part (that will evolve according to the choices you make in the main story) in which you can choose the secondary quests according to your preferences.

But it is true that the basis of the game is the duality between either you become an alpha/whited or you become a beta/blacked. This choice opens and closes possibilities but also allows for a more structured story imho. I also agree with TrapQuest on this point: given the very sensitive nature of the topics covered by the game (raceplay...), it is better to segment things clearly so that players do not get into a story they might hate.

And, wtf man, you don't like ur redhead girlfriend ?

ok just downloaded 6.2 loaded my save from 6.1 when i go to the girlfriend house when i click on take her to bed it shows a lot of errors

Feel free to contact me in private (here or in discord) to resolve this!

Any time you go to the bathroom it resets, pretty sure it's the reason for the whole stink mechanic he added... so you are forced to go to the bathroom regularly.

you can see the event for a different size dick by changing it and going to the room and jacking without visiting the bathroom.

You can ask me directly if you are not sure. I regularly read this thread and I have no problem answering on all topics. There is no need to force the player to go to the bathroom, as there are many places (ur bedroom, ur house, the school, etc.) in which the player is forced to pass every day ^^

The stink system is the first illustration of the buff system of the game. It modifies the behavior of some characters and several scenes will use it. But I understand that you find this mechanism annoying! Tip: you get the buff stink after 3 nights without washing.

 

[MidaHanna]

I can't save ??

 

[Big Eiffel Tower]

I can't save ??

You can save @ under your bed @ night

 

[Zar]

You can ask me directly if you are not sure. I regularly read this thread and I have no problem answering on all topics. There is no need to force the player to go to the bathroom, as there are many places (ur bedroom, ur house, the school, etc.) in which the player is forced to pass every day ^^

The stink system is the first illustration of the buff system of the game. It modifies the behavior of some characters and several scenes will use it. But I understand that you find this mechanism annoying! Tip: you get the buff stink after 3 nights without washing.

So, the "paywall protection" in version 6.2 is in the bathroom, or perhaps more correctly, in the "go to bathroom" button?
Also, by your own words, you get a debuff if you don't go to the bathroom every 3 days?