RPGM Blessing of the Elven Village [v0.4.B.2] [DragonMommyRhea]
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Dekudent
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It's unfortunate the continued complaints about optional NTR / corruption have proven this draining but seems to be the norm on the forum :/
I'm no fan of 'feel bad' or adjacent fetishes and stories myself but you just don't engage with them and it's fine, and you've been incredibly clear about where the line of starting them are, plus having it be a continued effort to reach any scenes / routes so it's really not an issue and handled as well as it can be.
I'll keep checking out the parts of the game that I'll like, and I hope that going for earlier inclusion of NTR content works out the way you want it to, the game has been very fun and it shouldn't be demoralizing or a chore to make for you in any way, esp because of interacting with randos online.
Best of luck with continued development c:
I'm no fan of 'feel bad' or adjacent fetishes and stories myself but you just don't engage with them and it's fine, and you've been incredibly clear about where the line of starting them are, plus having it be a continued effort to reach any scenes / routes so it's really not an issue and handled as well as it can be.
I'll keep checking out the parts of the game that I'll like, and I hope that going for earlier inclusion of NTR content works out the way you want it to, the game has been very fun and it shouldn't be demoralizing or a chore to make for you in any way, esp because of interacting with randos online.
Best of luck with continued development c:
The problem is pretty much every new game is trying to add optional NTR which is the exact opposite of what the majority of harem fans want, which winds up creating an audience that is diametrically opposed to each other and is obviously going to cause complaints even if it's optional because that still means development time is being dedicated to A fetish that harem fans are never going to touch and you never know when the scale is going to dip too far to one side and leave the other side completely unsatisfied. It doesn't help that the majority of the developers don't know how to implement it properly to begin with and wind up ruining the characters in the process, since most of the time the player(mc) has to jump through A bunch of hoops raise stats etc. just to get some action, where as usually the NTR side generally doesn't have to do anything and gets some action with little to no effort(also can't forget that for some reason the MC always has to have A smaller dick and be worse in the sack).
My advice to every single developer either make A full blown NTR game or make A full blown Harem/Vanilla game, stop trying to do this half assed middle ground, it won't make you more money and the only people who like both fetishes is an extremely small minority of people.
I personally don't like NTR, but I'd prefer A game be fully NTR than some half assed middle ground trying too satisfy everyone, failing to gain and audience and then being abandoned, It also makes it easier for me to simply disregard A game that's fully NTR since I know I won't have any interest in it and that allows A dev A fully like minded audience that will continue to grow instead of A bunch of wary people constantly asking what's avoidable and what isn't, how much NTR content is there compared to Vanilla etc. Lastly from A purely financial standpoint I'm never going to support A game where 50% of the content I won't ever touch, especially when there's developers that do make games with content that I like 100% of and I imagine that I'm not the only one with this mindset.
Now if this game is purely A passion project and you don't care about making money from it, then you can just disregard everything I just said since you'd just be making games for you after all.
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I am not letting that math slide without checking it.
Filtering out the Abandoned & On-Hold, cause you don't use corpses in live pop stats(24.29% "dead").
Male MC & Harem are 1563 games or 53 pages.
Netorare + Netorase (tag swinging): 152 games or 9.7%. Almost 1/10 games have something NTR-focused.
Depending on your views on multi-penetration:
Shares the same amount as both forms of NTR, 152 games.
I didn't include it with the NTR in, there might be murk.
If you do, it jumps to 304/1563 games or 19.44, nearly 1/5.
Now for some etc info:
Completed/total(minus abn & hold): 771/1563 Harem+ Male MC are about 49.3% completed.
Removing Ntr+Nrts makes it 701/771, 9.1%. Near 1/11 had NTR content.
Removing the Multi pen makes it 597/771, 22.57. Over 1/5 had Multi-pen.
What did I learn from all this shit? NTR content is nearly 1/10 of harem + male mc games, which is probably why it feels more present. Depending on how you feel about bisexuals girls moving ino the group and trying to fuck everything, that likely wont be tagged sharing/swinging/ntr. I have no idea if Multipen is sharing/swinging,imo, it likely counts, 50/50 without context.
The tagging system might need work.
Edit: 771 games out of 2074 (corpses counted)Male MC + Harem are done. ~37%. Over 1/3 done, if you ever doubt yourself.
792/2074, aka ~38,% are still active.
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joni2k
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I'll finish the currently available content before leaving a review, but having played a couple hours what I've seen so far is top tier - definitely a five star game and several notches above the usual slop that gets posted on this site. The amount of polish and attention to detail are obvious and really elevate the experience. Nice work with the visuals and character designs too, the renders look great for being done in Koikatsu. Hopefully you'll enable donations/upload a paid version on Itch.io, would love to send some support your way without having to enter my credit card details on yet another service.
Rpgm game with harem content but also avoidable(Doesn't really means shit to most people) ntr? Tell me more about disaster recipe. Not only it will upset most of the fanbases of both genres but will increases the development time. As if thousands other games are not doing the same and then ending up abandoned or on hold (Except few great ones which mostly rely on medicore story and simple mechanics).
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This is an interesting idea of a game. I feel that you are on to something here.
As someone that's played Karryn's Prison I actually like what you are trying to do with the combat, even though it is currently very unbalanced (very fixable), I've basically had to use the npc by the bridge to downgrade enemy levels almost every time or mobs just 1 or 2 shot and since they have a shit tone of turns before me they usually wipe out 2-3 party members in one round.
The design of the girls are good, I like the concept of them having to use slutty armor, though out of all of them, the mother is a bit too plain imo (probably the haircut or something, not sure), also appreciate a gilf in there, not that usual in games, shame she's not actually the grandmother.
Having said that, I have a few things to criticize, hope I don't come off as harsh since it that isn't my intent.
Also, probably an oversight or a bug but the LIs get their armor of Friday but I started fighting since the 1st day, and they already used their armors. I'm guessing they were supposed to use their normal clothes until then? In fact, Reina the character that refused to use the armor in the Friday event and the only character I can't choose what to wear uses the armor.
P.S. Almost forgot about this but unless I missed it, you can't tell what magic each character has until shes in battle and with so many characters, memorizing it is a pain. A status screen listing it would be really useful.
As someone that's played Karryn's Prison I actually like what you are trying to do with the combat, even though it is currently very unbalanced (very fixable), I've basically had to use the npc by the bridge to downgrade enemy levels almost every time or mobs just 1 or 2 shot and since they have a shit tone of turns before me they usually wipe out 2-3 party members in one round.
The design of the girls are good, I like the concept of them having to use slutty armor, though out of all of them, the mother is a bit too plain imo (probably the haircut or something, not sure), also appreciate a gilf in there, not that usual in games, shame she's not actually the grandmother.
Having said that, I have a few things to criticize, hope I don't come off as harsh since it that isn't my intent.
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Also, probably an oversight or a bug but the LIs get their armor of Friday but I started fighting since the 1st day, and they already used their armors. I'm guessing they were supposed to use their normal clothes until then? In fact, Reina the character that refused to use the armor in the Friday event and the only character I can't choose what to wear uses the armor.
P.S. Almost forgot about this but unless I missed it, you can't tell what magic each character has until shes in battle and with so many characters, memorizing it is a pain. A status screen listing it would be really useful.
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I'll look into that option, The general response I'm seeing that if people want to avoid it I should just not include any combat corruption scenes until you get to select what type of experience you want, So I'll work on that for the next version.
Thank you, I'll look into these errors and will have them fix.
I did test it but looks like I did a pretty bad job testing it then, I'll ajust numbers and continue to tune as neccesary, I'm sorry the state of the combat is in such mess, I'll lower agility and attack scaling and go from there.
1) Honestly, because of my writting style, I'm probably not a good Male MC writter from what I'm learning, I struggle a lot to use him in a meaningful way because it's easier for me to write female characters, this is a suggestion I've gotten multiple times, My train of thought here is that a boring Mc is better than an annoying Mc, I would actually like some pointers to what would you like to see from the MC to make him feel more important or that he has more agency.1) The MC is useless to the game imo, he's essentially just a vehicle to watch the girls scenes (which consists of mostly a 1st kiss for the majority of the LI) and does nothing else, he's got virtually no personality and unless there is a plan to add him to the battles as a support character or something then he's just...there.
2) As much as I've had issue with both sides of the harem purists and ntr purists, having played through it, I kinda have to throw them a bone here, from the battle-fuck system to the male npcs making plans to rape the LIs etc it seems to geared more towards "NTR" than harem/vanilla.
3) Adding to the 2 points above, wouldn't this have been better as a FMC corruption game? It could have been, for example, a multiple female protagonist game with the karryn prison style combat (haven't played the other game you referenced), and you wouldn't have 3/4 of the vitriol.
4) There's too many LI, don't get me wrong I like the majority of them, but it's a bit much, unless you are planning to add a lot of scenes per update it will take ages to do them all, but I'm not familiar with your update cycle so maybe you do plan on doing that. Even then it's happened in other games and the LIs end up being kind of hollow with a few scenes each and nothing else.
5) There are a couple of minor UI issues, at least for me, when you are training the LIs the green bar you need to mash to fill up is behind the character and towards the end you can't see if it's filling up or not. The Compass occasionally disappears and the reappears randomly and lastly, the text box is a bit too high, you have to constantly hide it to see those juicy melons.
2) I'll just combine what you say here with the general comment of the game seems to be geared towards NTR, my line of thinking is that for the Love Route I want to have several dates locations alongside different costumes, a pregnancy and marriage plotline, and 3p+ scenes with the Mc and two girls, so in my head that is the plus to playing Love side, but again, I'm asking to the people that want to see love/harem/vanilla content, what other suggestions would you like or what type of content would you want to see then that you would feel both sides are equally represented? again, I'm not trying to be smart ass or looking to defend myself here, I want to improve so I'm open to hearing people's opinion in this front.
4) Yeah I can see that, I could probably cut down from 15 to 10 and my life would be so much easier, but I like all of them and everytime I seriously considered eliminating two of them, I can't really justify it, I'm okay with a heavy workload.
5)I'm getting rid off the training mini game next version, I honestly forgot about it if not I would have taken it off. I'll look into what events have issues with the compass and I'll see if I can modify the talk hud as well.
EDIT: I updated the links to v0.4.A.3
v0.4.A.3
-Adjusted the way enemies scale, combat should not be as oppressive as it was.
-Enemies won’t attempt to use corruption attacks until the player as made a decision in the story to interact with corruption/ntr content. (Experimental, please report any unwanted behavior)
Hopefully this fixes the most urgent issues I'm seeing in regards to the newest version. I'll attach the data files of the files I changed, I don't know if it will work but it's a nice alternative if people don't want to download 2.5 GB's again.
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raziel121z
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Question, when a character the affection bar does not increase anymore what does mean? it is a bug or there is no more conent?
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Well so far, from what I've played, apart from the intro, he's not even been involved in the story. You have multiple characters having a convo for example, and he's just there, not participating
I agree that it would be worse for him to be annoying but still not sure what he's supposed to be other than a conduit for the sex scenes or to be a silent cuck voyeur on the future NTR path. What was your vision for the character?You don't have permission to view the spoiler content.
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Yeah, at this point in the game it's very hard to cut any of them, I understand that. Good luck with the workload tho, definitely don't envy you there, 15 LIs with love and ntr routes.
I'm rooting for you though.The compass disappearing seems quite random, and I forgot to say but quite a few times I was searching for characters, and they were inside houses and the compass didn't show them as in there. It seems to work well in the main map where the MC house is, but the other ones can be finicky.
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Anyway, I want to finish by saying it's a game with potential, I like the majority of it and this wasn't an attempt at trying to make you redo the game or anything, just my opinion as a player. At the end of the day, make something you are passionate about above all else.
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You could give the MC the ability to intervene in the battles like once or twice, maybe freeing the girls or casting something. The more affection he gains, the more power he gains.
I will try out the new combat now.
I will try out the new combat now.
I don't understand, I really don't understand, maybe there's something wrong with my game, after 5 hours of playing (yes, I'm a psycho who played the game for 5 hours) I didn't see any more content after choosing to turn on or off NTR, and I played both routes for at least 2 hours, no changes, the plot didn't move at all, I pumped up almost everything I could
P.S
Please explain, after this choice no content has been added yet?
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Please explain, after this choice no content has been added yet?
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Have you tried interacting with the girls that have content and progress their story? so far those are: Kyoko, Nozomi, Honoka, Aoi and Tsumugi, they have their individual story events, after combat events, gym events, and picnic date events
if i ignore not being able to play the first battle due to a bug with autobattle, is there only day and nightand 5 action points, i don't think that makes sense, can someone confirm?
I did everything, I even bought sports suits for all the characters)
I just tried to change the values via the save editor, which did not change, no changes at all
I started the game over again, the funniest thing is that in the first 15 minutes after skipping the prologue, I almost reached the place where I got stuck last time