VN Ren'Py Blurring the Walls [v0.5.2] [Torimiata]

[hlfwaycrks]

Well phone style games are nice and all but they are also limited in the range of possibilities they can offer, after a while they do get quite repetitive. As for AI based games, I don't have any hateboner against AI, it's just that in my experience with AI based games, the dev didn't bother putting much attention into the narrative structure, I believe this happens because with hand drawn art, dev must carefully plan what each CG will depict which makes him consider how the plot will go with more attention. With AI based art you can just make stuff up as you go along, there is not much price to pay for it. Blurring the walls was the great promise, an AI based game that seemed to have a good and well planned plot, which is why I am sad to see what has happened to the project.

I'm sad, too, but I'm also an extremely patient person and there's no shortage of games I'm interested in playing, so I haven't felt the frustration of others. I'm more sad that the delay in development has brought the negative perception to the project and all the hate that the dev has gotten as a result. I still look forward to the update.

 

[Turret]

Vulgar Reverie is the real deal. Perhaps I should have described in a different manner than "going smoothly" what I mean is that a game like Reverie is the full package, great art, teasing, pacing, likeable wife and MC, and so on. It is the highest western NTS standard we have right now. *And of course, so far dev has been consistent in his updates.

And here we can see different tastes at work! I consider "Vulgar Reverie" average for several reasons and is one of the few NTS games where my finger is on the "Strg" key most of the time. Just seeing the droopy,"I am so getting NTR´ed hard" face of the MC makes me want to click the red x. I have nearly a dozen NTS games I would put well before "VR" when it comes to story, likeable characters, etc.
Once upon a time "Blurring the walls" seemed to go into the right direction very well, then the NTR dicks made their move trying to force NTR into the game, also Torimiata made some rather questionable decisions and now this game is dead in the water.

I'm sad, too, but I'm also an extremely patient person and there's no shortage of games I'm interested in playing, so I haven't felt the frustration of others. I'm more sad that the delay in development has brought the negative perception to the project and all the hate that the dev has gotten as a result. I still look forward to the update.

I see it similar.

 

[Firewally]

In an alternate timeline...
"Hey guys, v0.5.2 just dropped and I'd like to preface this with a heartfelt thank you for the interest thus far. It's most likely going to be a hefty amount of time (which I can't pinpoint precisely) untill the next update for the following reasons:
- [detail AI production pipeline here for whoever cares]
- [explain why you're doing what you're doing now]
- [reinforce that you are not a full time developer here]

That said, the game is not abandoned, and I will not be going into NTR. Feel free to unsub if you expect an update in the following months, and to those who don't, thank you for your trust and see you in the future.

Then spend the next few months sprinkling in some alternative art on "what if" scenarios while you do wathever you're doing behind the scenes, keep teasing some events on the future update, and you're golden. Clusterfuck avoided. It's a god damm miracle how some people manage to entomb themselves in immense pits of shit when you can just be honest.

 

[hlfwaycrks]

In an alternate timeline...
"Hey guys, v0.5.2 just dropped and I'd like to preface this with a heartfelt thank you for the interest thus far. It's most likely going to be a hefty amount of time (which I can't pinpoint precisely) untill the next update for the following reasons:
- [detail AI production pipeline here for whoever cares]
- [explain why you're doing what you're doing now]
- [reinforce that you are not a full time developer here]

That said, the game is not abandoned, and I will not be going into NTR. Feel free to unsub if you expect an update in the following months, and to those who don't, thank you for your trust and see you in the future.

Then spend the next few months sprinkling in some alternative art on "what if" scenarios while you do wathever you're doing behind the scenes, keep teasing some events on the future update, and you're golden. Clusterfuck avoided. It's a god damm miracle how some people manage to entomb themselves in immense pits of shit when you can just be honest.

Is the update shifting the game to NTR? I must've missed that post?

 

[FMarshallboy]

Is the update shifting the game to NTR? I must've missed that post?

Probably, much people insist on introduce NTR in the novel.

 

[idkmanerally]

In an alternate timeline...
"Hey guys, v0.5.2 just dropped and I'd like to preface this with a heartfelt thank you for the interest thus far. It's most likely going to be a hefty amount of time (which I can't pinpoint precisely) untill the next update for the following reasons:
- [detail AI production pipeline here for whoever cares]
- [explain why you're doing what you're doing now]
- [reinforce that you are not a full time developer here]

That said, the game is not abandoned, and I will not be going into NTR. Feel free to unsub if you expect an update in the following months, and to those who don't, thank you for your trust and see you in the future.

Then spend the next few months sprinkling in some alternative art on "what if" scenarios while you do wathever you're doing behind the scenes, keep teasing some events on the future update, and you're golden. Clusterfuck avoided. It's a god damm miracle how some people manage to entomb themselves in immense pits of shit when you can just be honest.

this is exactly right and why i get so mad when people blame the community for toxicity. taking peoples money and making it sound like the update was right around the corner was so scummy. even if the update does come out and is good, i'm not giving this dev another dime. it was just so disrespectful

 

[hlfwaycrks]

Probably, much people insist on introduce NTR in the novel.

I meant, like, something tangible from the developer that would suggest a shift towards actual NTR. Saying that NTR is going to take over an NTS game just because there are a bunch of people in the threads/comments saying they want it to happen is a bit of a stretch. Pretty much every NTS game (e.g. Netorase Phone, much more so than BtW) has a chorus of NTR fans invading and begging the dev to have their way. I fight against them all the time. While some devs have definitely caved, I'd like to see some actual indication that Tori is shifting away from NTS and towards NTR before making assumptions.

this is exactly right and why i get so mad when people blame the community for toxicity. taking peoples money and making it sound like the update was right around the corner was so scummy. even if the update does come out and is good, i'm not giving this dev another dime. it was just so disrespectful

To act like the toxicity solely comes from the dev's poor communication and mistakes and not including the part the "fanbase" plays is in that is absurd. Scroll through the last 40 pages, read how bad some of the commenters get, and tell me that isn't contributing to the toxicity present in the community. You could not do so in good faith, and I am confident in that. I don't take the blame off Tori in any way as I think there's plenty of mistakes that have been made. Despite that, I feel bad for devs that have to suffer through the deluge of negativity; to act like commenters are entirely justified a result, no matter how horrible they are, is wrong.

 

[idkmanerally]

to act like commenters are entirely justified a result, no matter how horrible they are, is wrong.

i never said that at all?

 

[hlfwaycrks]

i never said that at all?

"this is exactly right and why i get so mad when people blame the community for toxicity. taking peoples money and making it sound like the update was right around the corner was so scummy. even if the update does come out and is good, i'm not giving this dev another dime. it was just so disrespectful"

You're right, you didn't say that verbatim, but the emphasis added to your message makes the implication clear: anger at those blaming the community, then discussing the dev's mistakes, thus attributing the toxicity to the dev. Am I wrong?

 

[Karcosa]

i cant imagine dev will abandon a game that was not only doing good when releases where on a regular basis, but that had and still has the chance to keep growing and improving. So, i will stay positive and lets hope for the best after this rework release

 

[jakekiko]

From Patreon:

Very Quick Update


“Hey everyone!
Just a quick check-in to keep up with the biweekly updates - a more detailed post is coming in a couple of days, but I figured a brief note now might be helpful.
Wrapping up the remaster has been a huge, intense effort, with more late nights than I’d like to admit. Beyond the art, I’m also excited about how the script is shaping up, especially in the later scenes - it’s feeling stronger and more cohesive.
Unfortunately, I'll be traveling again in a few days for work, which means no dev time for about a week. But rest assured, I’ll post that more detailed update before I leave.
More news soon!”

 

[burcounting808]

I am genuinely excited for the remaster. I know there is a lot of hate but that's just cause people care that much.

Even if it's a remaster I feel a lot of the old scenes will have changed enough visually or they are completely reworked narratively we can enjoy them again as if they are new.

For me at least I think it'll feel like getting 5-6 months worth of new stuff all at once.

 

[Pich168]

From Patreon:

Very Quick Update


“Hey everyone!
Just a quick check-in to keep up with the biweekly updates - a more detailed post is coming in a couple of days, but I figured a brief note now might be helpful.
Wrapping up the remaster has been a huge, intense effort, with more late nights than I’d like to admit. Beyond the art, I’m also excited about how the script is shaping up, especially in the later scenes - it’s feeling stronger and more cohesive.
Unfortunately, I'll be traveling again in a few days for work, which means no dev time for about a week. But rest assured, I’ll post that more detailed update before I leave.
More news soon!”

this all just translate Too "let me add more Few months to this Remaster, if they become shit it is because Fans rush me to release".

 

[Jdsiis]

The other post it sounded like Tori was planning / hoping to release the remaster before or on the 14th. Now it seems like it's another 'detailed update' post?

Anyways, I hope that post is more concrete in it's update. And personally I've very excited for the remaster. It sounds like there will be a lot of changes, including the branching path system from the beginning. So, we might get alternate versions of existing scenes for different paths...?

 

[hangmansjoke]

The other post it sounded like Tori was planning / hoping to release the remaster before or on the 14th. Now it seems like it's another 'detailed update' post?

Anyways, I hope that post is more concrete in it's update. And personally I've very excited for the remaster. It sounds like there will be a lot of changes, including the branching path system from the beginning. So, we might get alternate versions of existing scenes for different paths...?

tori is incapable of giving a straight-ahead answer, so instead you have to read between the lines like a WWII codebreaker

the first update said "i'm traveling on the 14th and will be gone for a full week after. i MIGHT finish the update before then and release it..." and anyone who has followed this dev knows that when he says "i might be able to..." or "i'm aiming to..." it means it's not happening. this post is foreshadowing for a delay post

today's "just a quick check-in" update is the actual delay announcement. "yea the 14th ain't happening, i'll finish the update when i get back" is what he's saying here

so this means: remaster will not drop before the 14th, he will be gone for a week after that, which means AT BEST he will come back in late november, and even then, he will still have more work to do before the remaster is done

lmao

 

[Faptimebitch]

There is actually no way hes taking this to december. Again, for the 74858th time, why couldnt he have just released the NEW content before dipping for over SIX MONTHS to remaster the game

 

[slim-kr]

Classic, lie of the month+bait update. Everything checked, see you next month for another AI post.

 

[Pich168]

Classic, lie of the month+bait update. Everything checked, see you next month for another AI post.

if we get abandon Tag already, i think it might make some changing to make DEV stop lying to public.

 

[kyunyuh]

There is actually no way hes taking this to december. Again, for the 74858th time, why couldnt he have just released the NEW content before dipping for over SIX MONTHS to remaster the game

because the new content is still not finished yet, my guess is that the dev struggle to make the 0.6 update, then he decided to make a remaster as an excuse for the delay, because if he had finished the 0.6 update he should be able to release 0.6 first before the remaster, or at least release it at the same time as the remaster, but nope, from his word it indicate that remaster and 0.6 will be seperated

 

[kiziero]

Unreal.For some reason i was legit believing that he d actually release the remaster on 14 november.But yet again it seems he wont.All this waiting just for a damn remaster.Wtf is this.It ll be years until we actually see some new content/scenes(in the case that it wont get competely abandonded)