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StrawberryCheese83

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You can skip the game. It's an NTS game bro. It's literally called "BLURRING" the Walls. Some level of exhibitionism and sharing will always exist no matter your choices. If you want a full vanilla purest path possible this is probably not the game for you.
I already knew that, Bro! I don t want to skip ALL of the Content either, or have a complete vanilla path, but if i m in "Dom Mode," then as a player, I can damn well expect to have CONTROL over Ayumi, and I can expect the dev to provide me with OPTIONS for that! For example, I don t want Ayumi doing anything with Terrace! I want to avoid him cause i can t stand him! But I can t, because the dev doesn t give options for it! Every interaction is forced and nothing is "skippable" or "optional"! The problem isn t the Games NTS genes... the problem is that you simply can t control the MC correctly or have any influence on the game (or Ayumi)..because the given Options are utterly worthless and/or not enough! That pi**es me off! :(
 
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mephistobr

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I already knew that, Bro! I don t want to skip ALL of the Content either, or have a complete vanilla path, but if i m in "Dom Mode," then as a player, I can damn well expect to have CONTROL over Ayumi, and I can expect the dev to provide me with OPTIONS for that! For example, I don t want Ayumi doing anything with Terrace! I want to avoid him cause i can t stand him! But I can t, because the dev doesn t give options for it! Every interaction is forced and nothing is "skippable" or "optional"! The problem isn t the Games NTS genes... the problem is that you simply can t control the MC correctly or have any influence on the game (or Ayumi)..because the given Options are utterly worthless and/or not enough! That pi**es me off! :(
That still doesn't make sense. What if you don't like any male character other than the MC? What you're asking is nonsense. You don't like Terrance? That's inconsequential to the story. Some choices are just flavor and they are ok.
 

Dimitry710

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I already knew that, Bro! I don t want to skip ALL of the Content either, or have a complete vanilla path, but if i m in "Dom Mode," then as a player, I can damn well expect to have CONTROL over Ayumi, and I can expect the dev to provide me with OPTIONS for that! For example, I don t want Ayumi doing anything with Terrace! I want to avoid him cause i can t stand him! But I can t, because the dev doesn t give options for it! Every interaction is forced and nothing is "skippable" or "optional"! The problem isn t the Games NTS genes... the problem is that you simply can t control the MC correctly or have any influence on the game (or Ayumi)..because the given Options are utterly worthless and/or not enough! That pi**es me off! :(
Your complaint makes no sense. All I see is that you're crying.
 
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rattylarry

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I played it for the first time. With all due respect, it is quite a great game (visuals), but one fuggin thing is nagging at me: ALL of the so-called "choices" are utterly useless. In what universe does the MC have real control over Ayumi or a situation? Either the MC is "good" with the situation (forced), or after a choice, the scene unfolds the same way as she would do it without a choice (also kinda forced). You have choices between "let her do it" or "I let her do it"! What kind of choices are these? They don t even make sense and they are complete useless! :(

Just a simple example: the situation between Ari, Ayumi, MC, and Terrance. First visit of Ari. They re standing outside the pool, ready to present their asses to the guys. Ayumi asks, "Oh MC, lovely MC, are you okay with presenting our asses to you?" Choices pop up: 1. Nod slightly OR 2. ...!! BOTH choices have the SAME outcome. They are presenting their asses..to Terrance and MC...without Players Consent! :rolleyes: Dont get me started about Day3. Everything that counts...but really everything...was forced! There was NO control whatsoever.....except for a few Scenes at the "end of day".

Sarcasm mode on: The best choice was... let Ayumi get fondled and groped by your "best friend" or let her go full lesbian mode...! YAY :LOL: Sarcasm mode off!
How about a real 3rd Choice : let her be fondled by her BOYFRIEND...or NEITHER!?!? Whats next? Forced Cheating with some random...because...well...you know...for...reasons?!?! But who am i kidding....the MC is probably okay with that (forced..ofc)! :cautious:

In conclusion, it doesn t matter which "path" you took...they re all kinda fake and almost every choice is a illusion! You can t gain control and the outcome is always the same..with slightly different Dialogue! Either Ayumi does the same thing after a choice (no matter what you choose), or (surprise, surprise) you get NO choice and Ayumi does her own thing anyway! I thought on the "Dominant Path" WE (the players) are calling the shots? So I m asking: where are my choices to control Ayumi? And I mean real "DO IT or DON'T DO IT" choices! I thought the Dom part is about CONTROL over Ayumi s actions!?!? When does that start? :unsure:

Btw...how can i skip the forced lesbian sex and the forced makeout with Ari? (day 3) I don t want Ayumi to do this and i don t want her around Terrance. Since she s in "Devoted Puppy" Mode, i as a Player should have a saying in this, right?!? Again...no Choices! wth....!?!?

I wish I could help you, but after reading with more attention all what you wrote and replies I'm wondering. Are you sure you picked the right kind of game for you?
 
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TheGooseter

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I already knew that, Bro! I don t want to skip ALL of the Content either, or have a complete vanilla path, but if i m in "Dom Mode," then as a player, I can damn well expect to have CONTROL over Ayumi, and I can expect the dev to provide me with OPTIONS for that! For example, I don t want Ayumi doing anything with Terrace! I want to avoid him cause i can t stand him! But I can t, because the dev doesn t give options for it! Every interaction is forced and nothing is "skippable" or "optional"! The problem isn t the Games NTS genes... the problem is that you simply can t control the MC correctly or have any influence on the game (or Ayumi)..because the given Options are utterly worthless and/or not enough! That pi**es me off! :(
iirc my first comment after playing this game (pre-remake) was pointing out how none of choices really mattered. So I understand where you are coming from... but I think you're looking at it from the wrong perspective since the remake fixed this issue for me.

The choices in this game affect how Ayumi acts rather than how much you "control" her. At the end of the day, the game is about the player embracing their fetish and exploring together with her. The differences comes in whether you prefer Ayumi to be more bold and teasing as opposed to a bit more shy and submissive (as the route names suggest). The remake has made her demeanour pretty different depending on your choices. And we also have whole separates branches with terrace vs ari.

Choices pop up: 1. Nod slightly OR 2. ...!! BOTH choices have the SAME outcome.
Even big budget games with 100's of workers like mass effect, twd, and more recently Dispatch do this for practicalities sake. if we expect every single choice to have completely unique dialogue/weight, then we might actually have to wait till 2030 for the game's finale (after all Tori is one dude).
 

James6887

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Directly. The whole Game is NTS, so the Male lead wants her to do that Stuff. Their Relationship is healthy, Trust based and everyone arund them, are helping for letting Out their " wild" Side. No wife stealing no cheating, its more about Sharing and daring.
Their relationship isn’t “healthy” in any way
 

drh64

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I really like this game the only thing that annoys me is the MC, when ever Ayumi or Ari mention any thing sexual the MC acts like a child gulping or blushing Jesus Christ he's a grown man can the dev make him act like one please and not like some virgin teenager. Can't wait for the next update.
 

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how long was it like 3 year in total? including before remake?
Let's clear this up with actual dates:

Original version:
  • September 2023 (0.2.7 initial release) to April 2024 (7months + 2days development)
Remake timeline:
  • January 2025 (0.2.7 equivalent) to August 2025 (7months + 10days development)

That's for similar escalation points. So while the in-game days are a bit behind, in practice, the remake actually has a lot more branching, choices, scenes, animations and general quality.

Yes, development got rough last year (I paused Patreon because of it), but the timeline keeps getting inflated. It hasn't been "3 years" by any measurement.

Progress and pace have been great, and I'm looking forward to the 0.6.0 release.
 

Tinez82

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Let's clear this up with actual dates:

Original version:
  • September 2023 (0.2.7 initial release) to April 2024 (7months + 2days development)
Remake timeline:
  • January 2025 (0.2.7 equivalent) to August 2025 (7months + 10days development)

That's for similar escalation points. So while the in-game days are a bit behind, in practice, the remake actually has a lot more branching, choices, scenes, animations and general quality.

Yes, development got rough last year (I paused Patreon because of it), but the timeline keeps getting inflated. It hasn't been "3 years" by any measurement.

Progress and pace have been great, and I'm looking forward to the 0.6.0 release.
You shouldn't t have to break out a timeline to justify yourself... Patience is a trait that's becoming more rare nowadays and every one expects instant gratification. Those individuals can never be satisfied and will find any reason to bitch and complain. So don't let their comments take up space in your mind. It's your story to tell, all they need to do is shut up and listen.
 

shotzpro

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Let's clear this up with actual dates:

Original version:
  • September 2023 (0.2.7 initial release) to April 2024 (7months + 2days development)
Remake timeline:
  • January 2025 (0.2.7 equivalent) to August 2025 (7months + 10days development)

That's for similar escalation points. So while the in-game days are a bit behind, in practice, the remake actually has a lot more branching, choices, scenes, animations and general quality.

Yes, development got rough last year (I paused Patreon because of it), but the timeline keeps getting inflated. It hasn't been "3 years" by any measurement.

Progress and pace have been great, and I'm looking forward to the 0.6.0 release.
I take your point, but I urge you to move the plot forward at least in 2026.

It's quite frustrating to wait three months only to see an animation rework and no story progression.

In addition to the fact that parts of 2024 and 2025 consisted of content we had already viewed.
 

StrawberryCheese83

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iirc my first comment after playing this game (pre-remake) was pointing out how none of choices really mattered. So I understand where you are coming from... but I think you're looking at it from the wrong perspective since the remake fixed this issue for me.

The choices in this game affect how Ayumi acts rather than how much you "control" her. At the end of the day, the game is about the player embracing their fetish and exploring together with her. The differences comes in whether you prefer Ayumi to be more bold and teasing as opposed to a bit more shy and submissive (as the route names suggest). The remake has made her demeanour pretty different depending on your choices. And we also have whole separates branches with terrace vs ari.


Even big budget games with 100's of workers like mass effect, twd, and more recently Dispatch do this for practicalities sake. if we expect every single choice to have completely unique dialogue/weight, then we might actually have to wait till 2030 for the game's finale (after all Tori is one dude).
Thanks man! You re one of the rare ones who actually gave a thoughtful answer (most people just spam the usual "don t play it then” and all that bs). The way you explained it finally makes sense to me. (y)

I probably went in with overly high expectations because the game starts off so strong. Personally, i m just not a fan of games where the player has basically zero control....it really kills the immersion for me. And just because it s an NTS game doesn t automatically mean it shouldn t have any meaningful choices. In my opinion, netorase should feel mutual and still give the player some agency. It leaves a weird taste when the dev forces decisions on you no matter what.

That whole "you shouldn t be allowed to skip anything because it s an NTS game" argument (not your words, just what a lot of other people say) is complete bs in my eyes. Wanting to skip one or two scenes doesn t mean i d skip everything—a simple "do it" or "don t do it" choice would ve been more than enough. No extra renders needed...just some extra Dialogue.

Anyway, i get it now: Tori is a one-man army and he still did an incredible job. I really like the story, the animations are awesome, and most of the characters are likable… but the lack of control and that missing sense of ownership over the MC and Ayumi made me move on.

I ended up finding another game with equally gorgeous renders and great storytelling (NTS, NTR, cheating, and even a loyal path), where literally everything is optional. The dev is also a solo guy and just dropped his 6th update this year, so i basically found exactly what i was missing here. :giggle:
 
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