acct5656

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The dev is a grifter. The "sex positivity" shit is literally a lie to get government funding and get support from his retarded fanbase. They eat it up like ice cream. I'm sure even the dev is getting high off of his own self-righteous farts and believing the shit now too.
Yep, the dev also always has these progress reports, it like he works on the game for 24 hours a month and rest of time getting high on the self-righteous farts. Dude is now trying to sell body pillows of the art of the game now. the 11-12K+ usd supporters must love the farts to keep getting this crap. Like Put the time into the game and make it better not i bored new game merch etc.
 
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Yep, the dev also always has these progress reports, it like he works on the game for 24 hours a month and rest of time getting high on the self-righteous farts. Dude is now trying to sell body pillows of the art of the game now. the 11-12K+ usd supporters must love the farts to keep getting this crap. Like Put the time into the game and make it better not i bored new game merch etc.
All I can hope is that the actual artist that did all the work for the game is getting fairly compensated (ideally more than fairly), because boy the dev is milking the ever loving SHIT out of their work. Like I've said previously, most people wouldn't give this game a second chance if it weren't for the art being pretty alright. Art which the dev had no real hand in creating aside from throwing money at.
 

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All I can hope is that the actual artist that did all the work for the game is getting fairly compensated (ideally more than fairly), because boy the dev is milking the ever loving SHIT out of their work. Like I've said previously, most people wouldn't give this game a second chance if it weren't for the art being pretty alright. Art which the dev had no real hand in creating aside from throwing money at.
It is the gaming community that forced:mad: him to employ artist and writer.(I feel part responsible for this)
Any way the dev looks more like an accountant/:geek:marketing specialist than game developer.(be it may be hired help too)
Three things are true:he has no sense:WaitWhat: for game planning, bad :poop: at creating porn games, greedy like hell:devilish:
 

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Its been a bit, has this been something you think you'd work on or nah?
No it's not something I'm working on right now, as Rel is currently developing the game. Once the full game is released I will see what can be done, I'd also like to discuss it a bit with him about adding some kind of cheat features. The updating isn't the issue I'd just like to discuss a more open minded solution first.

I will ask now if Rel has any plans for a cheat menu and is open to make it because if I can just ask him, it's way faster if the dev does it since I need to inject it.

TLDR; Maybe I will develop a mod menu, just not right now. And I'd like to ask Rel's plan first and consent for mod since it's actually a pretty nice guy.

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Rel is adding a option for cheats once the game is released so there isn't really a point for me to do it.
 
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I find it rich that a studio that's supposed to be all about sex positivity or whatever dumb shit has one of the worst in the market about fetish customization.
From the dev on their discord: "I don't consider myself part of the adult game sector at all, which is what the people at the forum don't like about me. I'm here because I've been a part of the transgender subcultures for a long time and transgenderness is why I'm making this. just because it's also sexy and handles BDSM, it doesn't lose that. but it's made for that audience, not for a general adult game sector. if they can also enjoy it, that's good, of course."

Such a griefer. If it wasn't an adult game it wouldn't be making the money they are each month. Don't forget the other games are adult sex games also. The dev for 6.0+ versions going all in on monster transformations because why not, get another 1-2 years of money. 7.0 will be engine change, 8.0+ will be Erica content in 2028!

I hope the artists/writers getting paid like a percentage each month from the subs!
 
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From the dev on their discord: "I don't consider myself part of the adult game sector at all, which is what the people at the forum don't like about me. I'm here because I've been a part of the transgender subcultures for a long time and transgenderness is why I'm making this. just because it's also sexy and handles BDSM, it doesn't lose that. but it's made for that audience, not for a general adult game sector. if they can also enjoy it, that's good, of course."

Such a griefer. If it wasn't an adult game it wouldn't be making the money they are each month. Don't forget the other games are adult sex games also. The dev for 6.0+ versions going all in on monster transformations because why not, get another 1-2 years of money. 7.0 will be engine change, 8.0+ will be Erica content in 2028!

I hope the artists/writers getting paid like a percentage each month from the subs!
Well considering the game was free and at one point matching the Patreon versions he still gained subs so this clearly didn't impact his income. Sure we can debate about this being not considered an adult game and I also disagree but that doesn't make him a "griefer". And also people choose to support him.

This thread has been an absolute mess and people that are jealous/ angry about his income. So what? People clearly enjoy it. And don't forget the insane amount of taxes he has to pay due to living in Germany (~40%). This doesn't comment about the game being grindy and somewhat forced fetishes those are valid critics.
 

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This thread has been an absolute mess and people that are jealous/ angry about his income.
Lol. I don't think anyone here's mad about Rel making money. The problem is the hypocritical fart-huffing.
And honestly, if this game represents his impression of the trans community: that's nothing short of an insult.
 
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The game involves either a male character being forcefully transformed into either a sissy or a bimbo... or a female character being forcefully transformed into a bimbo. I'd say that qualifies pretty strongly as being a kink/sex driven game, and don't see at all how that is an LGBT driven game at all. In fact, I find it a bit degrading if that's how Rel thinks trans folk should be, 'cause I can assure you... I have zero desire to be some sissy or bimbo.

I just like the forced MtF and all the dress up options
 
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This thread has been an absolute mess and people that are jealous/ angry about his income.
If that's what you got from all of that, you should probably go back to the Discord echo chamber and stay there.
No one cares about how much money he's making. People might have a problem about how he's making it, but the actual numbers I doubt anyone knows or really cares. From what I've gathered, people are mostly fed up about his attitude more than anything else. He gets a little success and now he think's he's God's gift to the world and trans people.
He's more than welcome to come here and set the record straight, but he left ship ages ago because he couldn't take people being critical, and people not being blinded by his BS rhetoric. Which is a red flag if I've ever seen one.
 

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If that's what you got from all of that, you should probably go back to the Discord echo chamber and stay there.
No one cares about how much money he's making. People might have a problem about how he's making it, but the actual numbers I doubt anyone knows or really cares. From what I've gathered, people are mostly fed up about his attitude more than anything else. He gets a little success and now he think's he's God's gift to the world and trans people.
He's more than welcome to come here and set the record straight, but he left ship ages ago because he couldn't take people being critical, and people not being blinded by his BS rhetoric. Which is a red flag if I've ever seen one.
I 100 percent agree. I think it is funny that this site and forum lives in his head rent free. We all haters!

He complains about the reviews of femdemic on Steam also. Dude cant separate himself from his work and life.

The game imo was better before the weird replay to get all paths and cryptic bs of how to get this route. Even if you on a route, another route comes along and locks you out of it. Don't forget the RNG nature of some events.

Game was better when he was releasing content monthly, this like 3-4 updates a year for alpha testing is insane. I swear he works on the project like 10-20 hours a month and most of it is rebuilding it, and he complains about that and sits back on vacation.
 

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2028????????????
I am using it as an example. His output has gone down drastically. It use to be a patch a month, now it when it gets done.

IMO I wish the characters would actually respond more about the changes and not say something once and be done.
 

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Rel makes 10k a month (granted it has just been a year but still), so they should be able to hire other devs and be able to finish the game by like 2025. But they went off to Mexico for a month (Fair). It's just so disappointing because I saw a lot of potential in the game but the way things are going it just seems to be going off the rails.
 

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Rel makes 10k a month (granted it has just been a year but still), so they should be able to hire other devs and be able to finish the game by like 2025. But they went off to Mexico for a month (Fair). It's just so disappointing because I saw a lot of potential in the game but the way things are going it just seems to be going off the rails.

It's hard to give up a cash cow, there's hardly any devs that don't drag out a successful game so Rel is not alone in this regard.
 

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It's hard to give up a cash cow, there's hardly any devs that don't drag out a successful game so Rel is not alone in this regard.
Not even.

There's just no reason for an indie dev to develop a game any faster than they think will retain subscribers. Wouldn't even blame them- it's a rough industry, no one takes you seriously outside it, the average 'fan' is a drooling illiterate moron and 10,000 a month, pre-tax, isn't actually enough to live on. A non-trivial portion of that is getting reinvested back into the game.
 
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a drooling illiterate moron and 10,000 a month, pre-tax, isn't actually enough to live on. A non-trivial portion of that is getting reinvested back into the game.
In what world is $10k a month not enough to live on? Because I'd want to fucking go there. $120k a year is like a fucking dentist's salary. Last time I checked, dentists were doing pretty well for themselves.
 

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Not even.

There's just no reason for an indie dev to develop a game any faster than they think will retain subscribers. Wouldn't even blame them- it's a rough industry, no one takes you seriously outside it, the average 'fan' is a drooling illiterate moron and 10,000 a month, pre-tax, isn't actually enough to live on. A non-trivial portion of that is getting reinvested back into the game.
The median yearly salary in the United States is less than half that amount.
 

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the last few pages of this derailing thread are quite interesting.
my few cents about the subsidy thing: NRW doesn't really care about his attitude. It's an investment. With a new project on his hands, he will continue to milk his patreons and generate taxes. Maybe even employ other people from germany.
 

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The progress report from his discord:

v0.6.x (2023/2024)
  • True Ending Gameplay
  • Finish Base Gameplay Puzzles
  • Four Monstergirl NPCs/TFs
  • Audio Reworks
v0.7.x (2024)
  • Willing Start
  • Complete True Ending Gameplay
  • Complete Damaris/Marco Content
  • Complete End of Week Show Content
  • Ally Dates with Abigail and Katelyn
v0.8.x (2024/2025)
  • Complete Erica Routes
  • Second Male Contestant
  • Complete Male Contestants Routes
  • Complete Main Gameplay Loop
v0.9.x (2025)
  • Polishing
v1.0.0 (2025/2026)
  • Steam/Itch Release

Another 2+ years of milking his subscribers!
 
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