RPGM Bones' Tales: The Manor [v0.30.3 Hotfix] [Dr Bones]
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the Emporer's New Clone
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just a few more days...
ty for the info, mate. BEtween the shills and bone's alt accs, there's no end to the bs.
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KingKnightis
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What's going on with the game anyway just seen it again after aa few months and its abandoned .
eminemball
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The game is basically dead. Developer is still "working" on it but he mostly makes commissions and remakes of his old work. Anytime somebody asks him about the development status he says he has an illness and the update will take awhile.
Also he said that update will contain around 10 scenes (most of which will be rework of old ones), so we have to be REASONABLE
he was told me 15, and if you look at a few threads before you will see what they are, there are 10 if I'm not wrong, the new ones are from beasty with vera. Yesterday he was playing skyrim, the guy is from argentina, that is to say, a latin american. friends, do you really trust someone like that? I mean I am latin and I know my people very well. I really don't understand his followers on his discord, I really don't understand.
To be honest, I've begun to get tired of coming here every day to see if there's any progress. Maybe sometimes we should just let go of the past and move on.
I come here for the occasional fan art and if I'm having a bad day reading about a dev getting slammed over and over due to his suspicious work ethic makes my day just a little brighter.
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At this point, maybe his uncle worked at Nintendo and his dad owns Microsoft
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
ZeroForTheWin
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So you know how a dead body can pass gas after death?
Yeah its like that.
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This post I made a few pages ago breaks down the information that was shared here for new content in the next update (all of the teasers that people shared). But to break it down for the lazy, from what I understand and assuming I made no mistakes the next update will contain the following:
Total: 12 Scenes & 11-12 variations
(5 Martha Scenes / 2 Variations)
(2 Mia Scenes / 1 is Beasty)
(2 Lucile Scenes)
(3 Vera Scenes / 9-10 Variations / 1 Scene + 5 Variations is Beasty)
+ Unknown changes from Lucile pantry & Vera bedroom door (multiple current scenes implicated)
I wouldn't call the game dead honestly, its incredibly slow to update and even though the update is taking a significant amount of time, there is still a large quantity of content to be added. Perhaps not many people would share my views on the following;
The updates as they are now, in terms of their size and frequency, with some exceptions, are likely not as far off from how things were when Doc would release multiple updates a year, as many people have come to think. In descending order of importance; the past updates were quite small, the art style wasn't as detailed and the positioning wasn't as good either.
Waiting so long is unfortunate and extremely annoying for all of us, but the overall quantity and quality is significantly higher compared to past updates. At the end of the day I'm not putting any money into this and neither are the majority of people here, I'm not trying to discredit people's views but if you have nothing to lose than all you have is something to gain, so waiting isn't so bad, especially with so much more content available on this site.
Doc is still really slow and full of delays, however these delays are not as extreme as you would think, the quantity of content is equivalent to multiple updates in the past, plus added quality improvements, the issue is doing the exact math for number of scenes (and variations) to month ratio, if that ratio remains within a reasonable range (with consideration for better art) than even these lengthy wait times for updates can be partially justified. I say only partially because it's likely that Doc is still overdoing it in terms of tardiness, we need to remember that a significant reason why this upcoming update is so large is because it's got scenes that were meant to be released in the previous update, at the same time we have no idea if he will actually release all the content teased for the next update.
This is not a post for the purpose of defending Doc, its for the purpose of reducing what seems to be a growing culture of blind pessimism. Criticisms against his delays are perfectly fine within reason, criticisms against anything else are usually unreasonable, with perhaps a few exceptions.
Following is on reworked scenes:
In the past Doc would often call scenes reworks despite there actually being new content involved, for example, he would rework an old scene by improving the art and possibly changing the position of characters a bit (such as with Martha & MC first time sex after the bath). And he would then add other scenes where the position of the characters in the scenes changes and/or the actions committed changes, there are the "variations" you see in the changelog. They're called variations to convey that they are linked to the initial scene.
When reworked scenes could go from one position and action, to multiple positions and actions (variations), Doc would simply call it a rework despite there actually being several new scenes (variations) mixed into it. I remember way back for update 0.15 people were being really aggressive with their complaints about the update being a "rework update" and I even had to step in and break down the changelog in order to get the player base to relax. That update was about 1/3 reworks and 2/3 new scenes, but everyone complaining thought that it was primarily or possibly only reworked scenes.
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Darkman200 - I'm pretty sure he is from Uruguay, unless he moved to Argentina. Can you also share where he said it was 15 scenes? Perhaps provide a screenshot?
weather_report - Could you also share a screenshot of where you heard 10 scenes?
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Imma ss this post in case it gets deleted. The breakdown is immaculate and if they delete it, whoever does, is a certified bozo
He said it in the stream, I asked him and according to him there were 15 scenes he was going to add, so I don't know what happened that now he says he's only going to do 10, or that he's going to do 12. I don't know about his nationality, the Uruguayan accent is almost the same as the Argentinian ones, if not the same. I don't know where the other guy got the idea that there would be 10 scenes, in theory and according to what he answered, there were 15 new scenes, and I asked him that a month ago, when he was drawing Vera's beastly scenes. So he's missing 3 and hasn't given any signs of working on them. The problem isn't so much that I'm reworking the scenes, the problem is the time it takes per update. If he were a serious developer, an estimated time between design and coding would be a year at most for decent content. Look at the previous updates that didn't bring that much content; it took too long to release them. Now this one comes loaded with scenes, and since the last time he released the update, if I'm not mistaken, it was in February of last year, and it hasn't come out. And we can't say that it will eventually come out because based on his activity in the last few days he hasn't given any indication that he's even working on coding the new content.
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Golem98
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If I remember correctly it was that he said he was from Uruguay in the past, at least I do remember a lot of people saying that's where he was from.
Well the 12 scenes (and 11-12 variation) is a break down of all the teasers that we received so far, and so long as I didn't make any mistakes we can consider that to be a credible guess for the amount of content in the next update, 15 scenes being something that Doc said himself is quite an interesting piece of information. Though a significant justification for the size of the upcoming update is that the previous update had scenes that were not released which will be added to this upcoming update, so 15 scenes, as much as that would be including the variations, seems reasonable.
The part I wrote on reworks in my previous comment was mostly for another user that had made the claim that the upcoming update would consist primarily of reworks which isn't the case from the information that was made available on the thread. It just remined me of a time in the past when Doc was grinding out a lot of reworks and people were complaining.
The issue with the time and size of updates that I wrote about was more so about the fact that the updates of the past, and I mean far in the past to the first updates back when Doc first released the game and he was loved by everyone, and was widely considered to be a great dev, and he himself was used as an example to insult infamous devs such as Wootch. Way back then, in those ancient days before bread, back when all his updates came out on time, he was loved and even when he was starting to get late to deliver on some updates, he was still considered to be very good and the voices concerned with his tardiness were fairly quite at the time. And a good reason for why those people were quite was because, despite the fact that the updates were increasingly taking longer to receive, each of the updates were larger. And the ratio of time and content remained stable, if the update took twice as long to release, he would release twice as much content and so on. It especially helped that I liked to make these long posts to break things down and remind people what's really going on, and that the art style and animation improvement was significant.
My argument is that the ratio for the updates we're getting now isn't that bad, when I think about it and if I remember it correctly, in the past when he was consistent with his updates it felt like he would do one update once every month, and he very soon increased the interval to two months once the first few initial updates came out, and the game wasn't in such a rough alpha state. But back then those updates were much smaller, his art style was less detailed, the animations were simpler and he lacked experience with RPG maker. Things have improved significantly since then and the overall quality of the game increased substantially.
If we were to consider some of the variations as new scenes entirely, based on how significant of a change the variation scene is from the initial scene, then the following update could have an extremely generous maximum of 24 new scenes, plus however many more from the unknown scenes that I found in the past and the ones that you claim Doc mentioned verbally. In reality, the amount of new scenes wont be so high, most of the variations would not be a significant enough change from the initial scene to justify counting them as a new scene entirely. However the overall quantity would still be quite high, and if Doc is claiming that there are 15 scenes, and we're already aware of 11-12 variations with the potential for more, than we could possibly see an update with roughly 20 new scenes being released.
This update has a level of quantity and quality that is significantly greater than the updates of the past, and based on the time it took its actually not too unreasonable in comparison to the most updates of the past. The main issue is figuring out how reasonable and stable the ratio between time, new content and quality is. We would need to have time stamps of when all the updates were released, a reasonable grading system for quality of art and animation, a reasonable system to count whether or not a variation can be considered its own scene while taking into consideration other development work. This sounds incredibly complex and annoying, I absolutely refuse to do the amount of work required to figure all of that out (the changelog isn't even written consistently), especially for a game about incest and bestiality, I've written enough essays as it is haha
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i heard similar about the number of scenes in a disc stream as well, i thought i heard 16 but 15 still makes sense so let's hope it releases soon