RPGM Bones' Tales: The Manor [v0.30.3 Hotfix] [Dr Bones]

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zarqupang

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well my thing is those have been blank from the start and some people would like for the olds stuff to get done. i mean how long have we been waiting for this stuff too.
 

_OBLIVION_

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If I remember correctly some of the content that he made will fill in some of those unimplemented scenes. But honestly, I don't mind if those scenes remain unimplemented as long as new content comes out within a reasonable ratio of quality, quantity and time.



By the cut ins do you mean those things that would flash across the screen and show something, such as Martha taking off her top? I can understand criticisms on priorities but this is still a videogame rather than a porn comic so certain elements being improved upon is reasonable.



I'm not sure what the source of his depression is, he's talked about it in the past and seems to have a mental health conversation with the chat during streams often enough from what I've seen that it must be a common thing. Even the Discord users are fairly chatty about the subject when it pops up. They even write about it between each other in the primary chatroom.



I'm not entirely surprised that this triggered soon after the update was released, I suppose the pressure of trying to redeem himself and then, honestly speaking, fumbling it to a degree got to him. He did have self admitted performance anxiety leading up to update 0.30, so I suppose whatever carryover emotions from that pushed him over the edge alongside the rough update release.
A serious dev would work in the unimplemented content from day 1 first before adding new content and not the other way around never,just look at Naughty Turtle Kamesutra game for example he was adding new shit while a lot of content from day 1 is still incomplete and guess what that game is currently a mess just like this one so no that's not the way.
 

darggan

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I've been following this game for a while now and I don't know why people don't unsubscribe. The guy never once met his deadline. Updates are sporadic and inconsistent, not to mention the disappearing content they bring, for example, two new animations and one rework, and it took him 5 months. The guy has talent. The animations are nicely done "for a game of this type." He somehow created a story that's enjoyable to play, but what good is that if you just ignore your own work?
 

Golem98

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A serious dev would work in the unimplemented content from day 1 first before adding new content and not the other way around never,just look at Naughty Turtle Kamesutra game for example he was adding new shit while a lot of content from day 1 is still incomplete and guess what that game is currently a mess just like this one so no that's not the way.
Well I never heard of that other game so I can't exactly compare it with The Manor, but from what I know about The Manor, the quantity of not implemented scenes isn't significant, and even though they've been around for a long time, the game hasn't had any more 'not implemented' scenes added. So I wouldn't consider it to be too extreme of an issue.
 

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Well I never heard of that other game so I can't exactly compare it with The Manor, but from what I know about The Manor, the quantity of not implemented scenes isn't significant, and even though they've been around for a long time, the game hasn't had any more 'not implemented' scenes added. So I wouldn't consider it to be too extreme of an issue.
Doesn't change the fact of what I said , focusing on adding new things while leaving things from day 1 incomplete for a long time just shows the incompetence of the dev that's why I respect deeply asian devs and not western AAA devs like Bethesda.

So you don't know about Kamesutra game oh boy I think that's better for you because what a trainwreck that piece of shit of a game really is.
 

Golem98

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Doesn't change the fact of what I said , focusing on adding new things while leaving things from day 1 incomplete for a long time just shows the incompetence of the dev that's why I respect deeply asian devs and not western AAA devs like Bethesda.

So you don't know about Kamesutra game oh boy I think that's better for you because what a trainwreck that piece of shit of a game really is.
I wouldn't exactly call it incompetence, had he made those scenes in the early days, it would've been with an art style that would've been much lower in quality compared to what he makes now, so it would've required everyone's favorite, a rework! And that would've just caused complaints, so this is a lose - lose situation, where there is effectively no right answer.

Or are we to assume that he simply leaves his old art in there? As if anyone here likes the art in the Yoga scene (oldest untouched scene in the game), compared to basically anything else in the game.
 

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I wouldn't exactly call it incompetence, had he made those scenes in the early days, it would've been with an art style that would've been much lower in quality compared to what he makes now, so it would've required everyone's favorite, a rework! And that would've just caused complaints, so this is a lose - lose situation, where there is effectively no right answer.

Or are we to assume that he simply leaves his old art in there? As if anyone here likes the art in the Yoga scene (oldest untouched scene in the game), compared to basically anything else in the game.
At the end of the day he should have work on those scenes before adding new content to the game either a rework or a complete new version of the scene not just leaving all there incomplete that's the point of this , if he did it with a lower quality back in the day well at least he finished it but that's not the case not even close , no wonder why the game is in the state it is, his priorities absolutely affected the game now new bugs shows up so yes that's incompetence dude.
 

DatWanGai

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I wouldn't exactly call it incompetence, had he made those scenes in the early days, it would've been with an art style that would've been much lower in quality compared to what he makes now, so it would've required everyone's favorite, a rework! And that would've just caused complaints, so this is a lose - lose situation, where there is effectively no right answer.

Or are we to assume that he simply leaves his old art in there? As if anyone here likes the art in the Yoga scene (oldest untouched scene in the game), compared to basically anything else in the game.
If he wasn't planning on just stalling the game to milk as much as he can, then yes it's incompetence. All of this is supposed to be planned and that includes increases of art style quality over time. Which is why you see more competent devs seek to finish their games first and foremost and touch up on older stuff either as they go or after the game is done. (as they go means, inserting changes alongside new stuff...not stopping progress to insert changes)

A good example is the dev of M.W.O. games. They weren't satisfied with their first game but finished it anyway. When they completed their 2nd game, their drawing skills increased and they figured out the parts they wanted to improve on in the first game, so they remade it. After their 3rd game, again they weren't satisfied with parts of the 2nd game so again they remade those parts. Even better, those first versions of the games were free. Only after making the remake of the games did they decide to charge for them and this was before ci-en became a thing.

Another good, yet bad, yet good example is dot kobo (.kobo). Made 3 games using a certain 90's-ish artstyle, changed their art direction after their 3rd game. Immediately remade 3rd game (among releasing additional games) to fit new art style and new combat style, over time remade the 1st game using new art style and combat style and is in the midst of remaking 2nd game. Now if only they stop trying to make all-ages games that keep the H just moving it off-screen......and give us Busters 2 already...
 

Jeanv2

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what I'm going to comment will be controversial, but I find it funny that everyone criticizes and demands the developer when they are in a piracy forum and therefore do not pay anything for the game, and no, I do not defend the developer, in fact I think the same as all of you but I am not a hypocrite why should I criticize or ask things from someone to whom I am not giving a single dollar for their work? if someone has the right to criticize and demand the developer, it is their sponsors and if you who are reading this are a sponsor of the developer, make your money worth it, you have every right to demand things from the developer but anyway, I am not going to waste my time criticizing the developer or asking for things since as I said I do not pay him anything.
 
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what I'm going to comment will be controversial, but I find it funny that everyone criticizes and demands the developer when they are in a piracy forum and therefore do not pay anything for the game, and no, I do not defend the developer, in fact I think the same as all of you but I am not a hypocrite why should I criticize or ask things from someone to whom I am not giving a single dollar for their work? if someone has the right to criticize and demand the developer, it is their sponsors and if you who are reading this are a sponsor of the developer, make your money worth it, you have every right to demand things from the developer but anyway, I am not going to waste my time criticizing the developer or asking for things since as I said I do not pay him anything.
Bones, what did we say about multi-accounts?
 

DatWanGai

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what I'm going to comment will be controversial, but I find it funny that everyone criticizes and demands the developer when they are in a piracy forum and therefore do not pay anything for the game, and no, I do not defend the developer, in fact I think the same as all of you but I am not a hypocrite why should I criticize or ask things from someone to whom I am not giving a single dollar for their work? if someone has the right to criticize and demand the developer, it is their sponsors and if you who are reading this are a sponsor of the developer, make your money worth it, you have every right to demand things from the developer but anyway, I am not going to waste my time criticizing the developer or asking for things since as I said I do not pay him anything.
So as someone who did support him until he started delivering nothing, are my criticisms hypocrisy? Do people who hasn't given him a dime have no right to voice their opinion? On a forum meant for discussions? Even when what they said are valid? On a, as you said, pirate forum?
Come on, mate. You need to at least be believable when you talk like this.
 

Jeanv2

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So as someone who did support him until he started delivering nothing, are my criticisms hypocrisy? Do people who hasn't given him a dime have no right to voice their opinion? On a forum meant for discussions? Even when what they said are valid? On a, as you said, pirate forum?
Come on, mate. You need to at least be believable when you talk like this.
Yeah, yeah, whatever, that doesn't mean everything discussed here isn't a waste of time and energy. Do you think the developer cares about what's discussed here? Of course, just because you don't contribute any money to the developer doesn't mean you can't give your opinion. We can all do it, but don't expect anything to change, because in the end, only those who pay have the final say.
 

Jeanv2

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Anyway, I just gave my opinion on the discussions here. You may like it or not, that's respectable, but the developer will continue to be lazy no matter how much we complain. It's just a matter of reassigning himself and waiting to see if he feels like releasing a new version.
 
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