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if it's doyle, i don't consider it NTR because it's still in the mc's body. ngl, i already sort of consider ntr all this pointless beasty with the dog, since he now has almost as many sex scenes as the MC. Bottom line, I'd like the game to progress with the MC as focus as it was from the beginning. All these ridiculous side quests that go nowhere are just a colossal waste of time. the game had no real update in over 3 years now. plot has not gone 1 step forward. not 1 N/I scene got implemented.If you pay attention to the story its obvious that Doyle wants to take over the MC's body and have sex with the women in the manor, its likely that Doc will go down that route eventually once he implements more of the story. This has always been the plan, I'm not sure what type of NTR a ghost possession counts as but its still NTR in a way. For the time being we can safely assume that's the only type of NTR that has the MC "lose".
However, that being said the "Wheel of Boners" is a process that basically makes random scenes so its somewhat possible for an NTR scene to slip through, but NTR is very unpopular and NEVER wins polls from what I've seen, so I'd say it wont happen.
He hasn't forgotten his original intentions, he specifically called out the over abundance of beasty content recently as becoming excessive, and pushing the game away from his vision, I wrote a comment about this not too long ago. It does help that I complain a lot in the streams about the beast content becoming too dominant recently, it especially helps that I make good arguments and no one really seems to have any valid counter arguments to my points. Of course at the end of the day, I only get one vote for the polls, and I can't convince the beast guys to ever change their minds.
To you and anyone reading this, if you want less beast content get onto the Discord and vote in the polls during streams. As a note for that, voting must be done strategically, you should be open to voting for something besides the one scene you really want to win the poll. I am open to organizing a group if enough people get together.
It's very unlikely that he adds more male characters to the game if that's what you're asking. However, that being said the "Wheel of Boners" is a process that basically makes random scenes so its somewhat possible for an NTR scene to slip through, but NTR is very unpopular and NEVER wins polls from what I've seen, so I'd say it wont happen.
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*sigh* You can chalk this up to everyone and their great uncle having their own "idea" of what NTR means when it's really damn simple.It's very unlikely that he adds more male characters to the game if that's what you're asking. However, that being said the "Wheel of Boners" is a process that basically makes random scenes so its somewhat possible for an NTR scene to slip through, but NTR is very unpopular and NEVER wins polls from what I've seen, so I'd say it wont happen.
Yes, this is it! This is the fantasy sex that takes maternal love to the extreme!From stream;
Future Martha + MC in a boobjob and blowjob combination scene.
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Doc plans to animate it in the next stream.
He said that the majority of the upcoming content will not be beasty.
He animated the previous Martha and Horse scene off stream.
This brings the total event distribution to 4/6 in favour of beasty.
I have updated my most recent stream content catalogue.
Yes, that's what I asked. I wonder if they plan to bring Doyle's mother back? There's a scene where Martha is possessed in the bathtub.If you pay attention to the story its obvious that Doyle wants to take over the MC's body and have sex with the women in the manor, its likely that Doc will go down that route eventually once he implements more of the story. This has always been the plan, I'm not sure what type of NTR a ghost possession counts as but its still NTR in a way. For the time being we can safely assume that's the only type of NTR that has the MC "lose".
However, that being said the "Wheel of Boners" is a process that basically makes random scenes so its somewhat possible for an NTR scene to slip through, but NTR is very unpopular and NEVER wins polls from what I've seen, so I'd say it wont happen.
He hasn't forgotten his original intentions, he specifically called out the over abundance of beasty content recently as becoming excessive, and pushing the game away from his vision, I wrote a comment about this not too long ago. It does help that I complain a lot in the streams about the beast content becoming too dominant recently, it especially helps that I make good arguments and no one really seems to have any valid counter arguments to my points. Of course at the end of the day, I only get one vote for the polls, and I can't convince the beast guys to ever change their minds.
To you and anyone reading this, if you want less beast content get onto the Discord and vote in the polls during streams. As a note for that, voting must be done strategically, you should be open to voting for something besides the one scene you really want to win the poll. I am open to organizing a group if enough people get together.
It's very unlikely that he adds more male characters to the game if that's what you're asking. However, that being said the "Wheel of Boners" is a process that basically makes random scenes so its somewhat possible for an NTR scene to slip through, but NTR is very unpopular and NEVER wins polls from what I've seen, so I'd say it wont happen.
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I have to admit that I'm not a huge fan of it, the only excuse I can think of is that she is now in her 50s so that would have some effect.Wtf that Martha roll![]()
The Discord is linked in the first post of this thread. There is a stream schedule but he very often doesn't follow it, though the schedule is still accurate to some degree, its an odd mixed bag, the stream schedule is in the top left of the Discord window. By joining the server and getting a roll at the "Special-Role-Giveaway" page, you'll get a notification when he starts a stream. Keep in mind if you want to vote in the polls, that you should vote strategically, always have a plan A and B, and be open to voting for something you may not like in order to avoid something you very much dislike. If you're willing, you could also get the Discord app so you get a phone notification when there is a stream.Drop a link where you can view the stream schedule to get to the stream and vote
I suppose there is also a slight chance that Doyle get a ghost body that is more "solid" and acts like a real body, but there has been no indication of that so far, so its unlikely. Regardless, even if that sort of thing did happen I don't really consider it to be too bad, Doyle in a way is a candidate as a secondary MC in my eyes, there are even theories that he possesses the animals and that's why they're "smarter".if it's doyle, i don't consider it NTR because it's still in the mc's body. ngl, i already sort of consider ntr all this pointless beasty with the dog, since he now has almost as many sex scenes as the MC. Bottom line, I'd like the game to progress with the MC as focus as it was from the beginning. All these ridiculous side quests that go nowhere are just a colossal waste of time. the game had no real update in over 3 years now. plot has not gone 1 step forward. not 1 N/I scene got implemented.
The content that I have been sharing is unlikely to be released for this update, he has many more events and scenes that are already made and these are the ones that he will likely add to the game.I'm gonna be real with all of you
Not a fan of this update so far
It's likely that she is added to the game eventually, and possibly soon.Yes, that's what I asked. I wonder if they plan to bring Doyle's mother back? There's a scene where Martha is possessed in the bathtub.
What you're describing is a series of absolutist descriptions on what NTR is in your opinion, and with whatever degree of commonality with the general population. I was arguing from the stance that each individual has their own personal opinion on what is and isn't NTR, which is reasonable because this game consist of themes which break away from the standard mold for NTR. For example you've said that possession counts as NTR, while another user here says that they don't consider that to be the case. Funny thing is, their comment is directly above yours and they posted it a few hours prior to yours. If you look more closely I wrote previously about possession and NTR already, and that new male characters were unlikely because new male characters are the most likely candidates for "hard NTR" scenes when the player truly fails in some significant capacity.*sigh* You can chalk this up to everyone and their great uncle having their own "idea" of what NTR means when it's really damn simple.
Is the MC in a relationship with or have mutual feelings for the person in question? If yes, continue. If no, it's not NTR and you can carry on with your life. "Well actually, it still falls into category..." Oh, it's not NTR. Otherwise nearly every damn story ever with romance is either Netorare or Netori.
Is she having relations with an organic being that's not the MC either romantic or physical? If yes, then it's NTR. If it's not some sex toy or non-sentient machine, then it's literally some person or creature having sex with her. That's NTR.
Is she having relations with the MC physically but it's not the MC internally (body switch, possession)? If yes, then it's NTR. The MC is technically not the one having sex even if it's his body. It still counts, the only difference is it's not betrayal since the LI doesn't know.
So to say "NTR is very unpopular and NEVER wins polls" yet the polls constantly seems to have creatures other than MC shagging the LIs just goes to show the level of ignorance the people in that discord suffers greatly from.
If he had any willingness to actual complete the game, Bones would do away with that "Wheel of Boners" bullshite, complete the incomplete scenes and move the story along. As thirstyman said, the game hasn't had any REAL update for over 3 bloody years now. Stop defending the wanker and his probably injected legion of beasty craving side trackers. Have them put a poll up with 3 simple choices:
1. Continue the story
2. Implement the unimplemented
3. Continue the story and implement the unimplemented.
Will there be other scenes with Martha stuck, like with the box or the sleep sex scenes, besides the one that's already been shown?I have to admit that I'm not a huge fan of it, the only excuse I can think of is that she is now in her 50s so that would have some effect.
The Discord is linked in the first post of this thread. There is a stream schedule but he very often doesn't follow it, though the schedule is still accurate to some degree, its an odd mixed bag, the stream schedule is in the top left of the Discord window. By joining the server and getting a roll at the "Special-Role-Giveaway" page, you'll get a notification when he starts a stream. Keep in mind if you want to vote in the polls, that you should vote strategically, always have a plan A and B, and be open to voting for something you may not like in order to avoid something you very much dislike. If you're willing, you could also get the Discord app so you get a phone notification when there is a stream.
I suppose there is also a slight chance that Doyle get a ghost body that is more "solid" and acts like a real body, but there has been no indication of that so far, so its unlikely. Regardless, even if that sort of thing did happen I don't really consider it to be too bad, Doyle in a way is a candidate as a secondary MC in my eyes, there are even theories that he possesses the animals and that's why they're "smarter".
I wouldn't say the dog has nearly as many scenes as the MC, the MC still has the most scenes by far, I'd even go so far as to include the Horse and Dog together and they'd still have less scenes. As unfortunate as the over abundance of beast is, I'm thinking that a lack of media for their niche fetish, plus Doc's popular art style makes them concentrate on the game more so than one would expect. Doc has also said that he will move away from producing beasty content and move back towards normal content with the MC. He plans to create a series of future events following a theme for each of the women in the Manor, recently he went ahead and pushed through 3/4 of the
As for the not implemented scenes, If I remember correctly he does in fact have some made already but just needs to add them to the game. He's already mentioned that he intends to further the game's story soon, possibly in the next update.
The content that I have been sharing is unlikely to be released for this update, he has many more events and scenes that are already made and these are the ones that he will likely add to the game.
If you look at my most recent stream content catalogue, you'll see an older content catalogue linked there, the content in the old one is only partially added to the game, you can look through that to find scenes that are very likely candidates for the next update.
It's likely that she is added to the game eventually, and possibly soon.
I would say there's NTR by Martha when she fucked Doggo in the basement even If it was unintentional at the beginning , she never pushed him away or even tried to, I agree Doggo is too stupid to realize of course because he acts from pure instinct like the dog he is but not from Martha , obviously she knew what she did in that case and never told to David about that, so yeah Martha cucked David with Doggo.What you're describing is a series of absolutist descriptions on what NTR is in your opinion, and with whatever degree of commonality with the general population. I was arguing from the stance that each individual has their own personal opinion on what is and isn't NTR, which is reasonable because this game consist of themes which break away from the standard mold for NTR. For example you've said that possession counts as NTR, while another user here says that they don't consider that to be the case. Funny thing is, their comment is directly above yours and they posted it a few hours prior to yours. If you look more closely I wrote previously about possession and NTR already, and that new male characters were unlikely because new male characters are the most likely candidates for "hard NTR" scenes when the player truly fails in some significant capacity.
As for the point on "NTR never wins polls" I mean that when NTR itself is listed as a tag for a scene listed on the poll, it never wins the polls. NTR and Beasty are two separate tags for the polls, as you would expect them to be just about everywhere else.
I'd also like to add that I don't consider beasty to be NTR because I think the animals are too stupid for it to really count. If the animal is possessed by Doyle, I now consider it to be a type of NTR, but not as bad as a new male character or Doyle himself with a physical body. If Doyle possesses the MC and has sex with the women using his body, I consider it NTR but not the same as a new male character or Doyle with a physical body.
A common example of a difference in opinion for NTR would be how a man reacts to infidelity from his partner;
Some men consider her having sex with another woman or man as equally bad, some find her having sex with another man as worse than with a woman, and some don't care that much or at all if she has sex with another woman.
Another common example is the difference between "NTR Types" such as "Mom NTR" and then the standard NTR. Some people may not consider certain actions to be NTR if the individuals involved are not cheating on an official and exclusive partner. While some may consider it NTR simply because a third party dislikes one of the two people having sex, and does not want them to have sex with the other person involved with the sex.
I also recommend that you remove the aggressive part of your comment as mods may remove your post for it. They do have a history of being somewhat trigger happy on this thread.
When I asked Doc to have Martha peg the horse he refused.Golem98 Status Report !
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The roll looks kinda weird but I rather that than a disgusting fupa that shit is too muchI have to admit that I'm not a huge fan of it, the only excuse I can think of is that she is now in her 50s so that would have some effect.
The Discord is linked in the first post of this thread. There is a stream schedule but he very often doesn't follow it, though the schedule is still accurate to some degree, its an odd mixed bag, the stream schedule is in the top left of the Discord window. By joining the server and getting a roll at the "Special-Role-Giveaway" page, you'll get a notification when he starts a stream. Keep in mind if you want to vote in the polls, that you should vote strategically, always have a plan A and B, and be open to voting for something you may not like in order to avoid something you very much dislike. If you're willing, you could also get the Discord app so you get a phone notification when there is a stream.
I suppose there is also a slight chance that Doyle get a ghost body that is more "solid" and acts like a real body, but there has been no indication of that so far, so its unlikely. Regardless, even if that sort of thing did happen I don't really consider it to be too bad, Doyle in a way is a candidate as a secondary MC in my eyes, there are even theories that he possesses the animals and that's why they're "smarter".
I wouldn't say the dog has nearly as many scenes as the MC, the MC still has the most scenes by far, I'd even go so far as to include the Horse and Dog together and they'd still have less scenes. As unfortunate as the over abundance of beast is, I'm thinking that a lack of media for their niche fetish, plus Doc's popular art style makes them concentrate on the game more so than one would expect. Doc has also said that he will move away from producing beasty content and move back towards normal content with the MC. He plans to create a series of future events following a theme for each of the women in the Manor, recently he went ahead and pushed through 3/4 of the
As for the not implemented scenes, If I remember correctly he does in fact have some made already but just needs to add them to the game. He's already mentioned that he intends to further the game's story soon, possibly in the next update.
The content that I have been sharing is unlikely to be released for this update, he has many more events and scenes that are already made and these are the ones that he will likely add to the game.
If you look at my most recent stream content catalogue, you'll see an older content catalogue linked there, the content in the old one is only partially added to the game, you can look through that to find scenes that are very likely candidates for the next update.
It's likely that she is added to the game eventually, and possibly soon.
So far there is no indication for that.Will there be other scenes with Martha stuck, like with the box or the sleep sex scenes, besides the one that's already been shown?
Martha was meant to be pinned down by the crate that fell on her, so she wasn't able to properly move. She also didn't want it to happen, if we're being honest its a r*pe scene but its not being tagged as such.I would say there's NTR by Martha when she fucked Doggo in the basement even If it was unintentional at the beginning , she never pushed him away or even tried to, I agree Doggo is too stupid to realize of course because he acts from pure instinct like the dog he is but not from Martha , obviously she knew what she did in that case and never told to David about that, so yeah Martha cucked David with Doggo.
I agree with Doc pregnancy of any kind would ruin the game imo.When I asked Doc to have Martha peg the horse he refused.
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That's not what I meant by peg the horseI agree with Doc pregnancy of any kind would ruin the game imo.
I didnt see her trying to get off Doggo and she enjoyed it but I get what you mean, the situation was so stupid all started as a accident the titjob the bj and the sex scene , she even said she can lift his wait but wonders why she doesn't do it and in another dialogue she says why she keeps coming to the basement so that confirms the NTR by her even if started as a rape/accident, I just saw the scenes.So far there is no indication for that.
Martha was meant to be pinned down by the crate that fell on her, so she wasn't able to properly move. She also didn't want it to happen, if we're being honest its a r*pe scene but its not being tagged as such.
I misread as preg , no wonder why Doc said noThat's not what I meant by peg the horse![]()
Exactly! Now it's '100 % this November'Wasn't this update supposed to be out 2 days ago amd then before that like a month or 2 months ago