RPGM Bones' Tales: The Manor [v0.30.3 Hotfix] [Dr Bones]

[yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa]

I don't know why it takes so long to update a game when you already have all the art and all that's really left is the code.

Coding a game can be hard and demotivating, especially without any actual education on how to. It’s also very deceptive and demotivating because of how game development usually goes, there’s a saying not just for games development but software in general that like 70% or so of the entire project is gonna be done in maybe 30% of the time and the rest of the time spent is dealing with polishing, bugs, quality of life, all the stuff that for a video game is expected but not appreciated or even noticed sometimes by the audience, doubly so for an h-game. You have the stuff people are excited for and want but it’s what people don’t really think about unless it isn’t there that takes so much time, as a creator it’s incredibly frustrating and makes you want to just give up on the project entirely.

Best metaphor I’ve heard is it’s as thankless as being a bathroom janitor, “people only notice or care about your work when you fuck up. When you do it right, usually people don’t even notice”

 

[exirock]

i apologise if this has already bin answered but is this game dead or on hold coz i don't frequent this chat form alot i usually pop my head to see if anything has changed then come back 2 to 3 months later to do the same i just noticed the new abandoned tag and im wondering what's happens since i was last here ?

So the update is kinda in three states being Developed, Onhold and Abandoned, cause has you can see this part-C of the update is taking far longer time then expected, Doc for what i heard sayed he has kidney stones (idk if its true or not, cause im not following the game or his activities), has for abandoned tag i think has been give due to f95 new policy/rule that states if a game has no news of development or shows signs of abandon it will be given the abandoned tag (i might be wrong the f95 new rule but that what i heard of).

 

[babykeem]

Coding a game can be hard and demotivating, especially without any actual education on how to. It’s also very deceptive and demotivating because of how game development usually goes, there’s a saying not just for games development but software in general that like 70% or so of the entire project is gonna be done in maybe 30% of the time and the rest of the time spent is dealing with polishing, bugs, quality of life, all the stuff that for a video game is expected but not appreciated or even noticed sometimes by the audience, doubly so for an h-game. You have the stuff people are excited for and want but it’s what people don’t really think about unless it isn’t there that takes so much time, as a creator it’s incredibly frustrating and makes you want to just give up on the project entirely.

Best metaphor I’ve heard is it’s as thankless as being a bathroom janitor, “people only notice or care about your work when you fuck up. When you do it right, usually people don’t even notice”

yes, when you're making an actual game. this game however is not that deep & the most difficult part would be the art/animations because he probably has all the fundamental code written down already since its a game about you in a tiny manor. so if he has to add a new scene? copy paste the code from another scene and change the images/text. the text is some preschool level stuff you could write on the spot & the overarching story is already finished most likely. make a moving camera cinematic? he's done that. make a dialogue with a choice? he's done that. etc etc, i don't think he's going to add something entirely "new" to this game. and when you have to redo the same process over and over throughout every update, doing basically the same thing, you should be better at it and avoid bugs way more frequently because you've most likely dealt with them before.

for any other game and development team ur argument stands but right here, it's just bones being lazy & getting paid doing nothing.

 

[yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa]

yes, when you're making an actual game. this game however is not that deep & the most difficult part would be the art/animations because he probably has all the fundamental code written down already since its a game about you in a tiny manor. so if he has to add a new scene? copy paste the code from another scene and change the images/text. the text is some preschool level stuff you could write on the spot & the overarching story is already finished most likely. make a moving camera cinematic? he's done that. make a dialogue with a choice? he's done that. etc etc, i don't think he's going to add something entirely "new" to this game. and when you have to redo the same process over and over throughout every update, doing basically the same thing, you should be better at it and avoid bugs way more frequently because you've most likely dealt with them before.

for any other game and development team ur argument stands but right here, it's just bones being lazy & getting paid doing nothing.

If I had to guess what he is struggling with is the trigger conditions for certain events overlapping/not firing. When you have a non linear quest system with 3 different NPCs and some of the quests overlap with the few 'main' quests, getting to the attic, seeing Jules in the barn, etc, it can become really tangled if you don't keep it organized to start with. It's also a bitch to test properly because you have to go and do all the trigger conditions separately in as many combinations as you can think of, without dedicated playtesters it can become a spaghetti nightmare of code. For example if he just copy pasted the code from one quest to the next and that old code had somewhere in it a trigger for a check on a quest unrelated to the original quest giver, so like when you get to whatever depravity with one of the girls and that triggers an event that is relevant to one of the other girls or something, you can softlock/infinitely loop.

The best way to avoid is either to just avoid that sort of interconnectedness in general, to organize shit early so you know how everything works and have somewhere you can keep tabs on stuff, or I guess to just have a really really good memory/commenting style. I am guessing Oseo has none of these things going for him and every time he wants to go make a content update he has to mentally untangle all of it every time and it has started to get unworkable. I believe that is sort of what happened to Never Saint also but apparently there was another coder involved who wasn't communicating with the original guy at one point so that just made it all the worse, hence the extreme response.

 

[bleach4613]

Anyone know where to find the Martha scenes with the dog online? Computer broken atm and scenes of Martha getting wrecked are the best but can’t play rn

 

[Deleted member 779276]

I can't believe the game was abandoned
Why did that happend?

a body at rest tends to stay at rest. make bank by 3rd world living standars, start eating choclate mouse infused all beef hotdogs everyday and wala, "just don't feel like working today" starts.

 

[PePeTheCoCk]

other post got liked so this is part 2 of ideas for ppl who are sad that bones tales is bone dry (ba dum tss!!)

note: this is doujins/comics/manga edition while the other post is about actual games. If you can't find anymore games, I suggest u look into this stuff cause it's also really good

Spoiler: TOP HENTAI COMICS

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How is this an alternative for "Bones Tales: The Manor"

 

[babykeem]

How is this an alternative for "Bones Tales: The Manor"

in prev post i tried to show a lot of games similar to this but i don't know any others so i got idea to post other stuff than game. they're hentai comics that have similar theme/tags to of this game, but without the gameplay. so if you enjoy this you might enjoy those as well. but at the end of the day it's just a suggestion for those who played pretty much everything there is like this dude for example:

This is the problem for me too. I don't know any other.
A couple unfinished ones on the list, so I would wait with those, but the completed ones are really good.
With the exception of Town of passion (I just didn't like the art for some reason) and Sister Seikatsu (haven't tried that one).

 

[slashslayer]

If I had to guess what he is struggling with is the trigger conditions for certain events overlapping/not firing.

then Bones should say so. one of his biggest problems is lack of communication since he uses most of it to say that people who want his game done are bunch of "whiny babies" that only know how to complain and nothing else

 

[TwoHeavens]

are his human ATMs still blindly defending and praising him on discord?

 

[Penniless Degenerate]

are his human ATMs still blindly defending and praising him on discord?

Yes.

 

[lollapoza]

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Yes.

But terrible people are not milked by a would-be developer who for months on end cannot release a piece of an update that will last five minutes at most.

 

[reyreynao]

if he truly has kidney stones then get well soon, rest up and polish yourself so you can publish a new update soon.... but if it is a lie only to milk the community dry like that girl did with the horse (forgot her name, haven't touched this game in a while... oh wonder why?) then he should go and suck on his dang bone like a good doc he is.

 

[polymorph80]

Alright Bones, since you're clearly still reading this:

Nobody is happy with the abandoned tag. We all love it and wish it would continue. There's just no longer any confidence that it will actually do so.

You know what I feel about the abandoned tag? Relief. It's like when Duke Nukem Forever was officially cancelled; the acceptance that after its interminable gestation, everyone involved finally came to terms with the fact that the scale of the project had grown beyond the capacity - mental, physical, and technologically capable - of its creator, and that we were finally able to stop living in hope, that we could put it aside. That's what I feel here - that rather than expending energy or money in the hope that the project might be delivered, we can all put it behind us and move on with our lives.

Maybe it'll come back at some point when we're all older and wiser. But it's pretty clear at this point that the issue isn't technical problems, or even health; it's simply that the author's interest in the project has gone. And that's fine - that's how most failed projects end (every time I see a new project with "unlimited potential for expansion!" it means the dev has no idea how to actually wrap it up), the ones that don't collapse in a jumble of spaghetti code anyway. So we can all put it aside and stop giving it the time. It's the hope that kills you. We've killed the hope first.

 

[BruceMcGivern]

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Yes.

That ain't a surprise. after all he's having hard time to give hard update dates with all those re-reeeeee-reeeeeeeeeeeemakes of the same scene over and over again!

Just download previous versions and make your own conclusions people. is not bashing the good poor old dr bones, its simply based logic since he's not gonna give actual solid updates on the game :/

 

[Rickolin]

I really doubt that the game will come out this month or next month or the next month since where it says the game status there is no expected date of when the update will be released it just says Sometime in the near future (2022) it means that the update could be any month of this year well that's what I understand then I imagine it would come out I don't know in August, October or December I don't know that's what I understand when mentioning Sometime in the near future (2022)

 

[iRoxor]

I really doubt that the game will come out this month or next month or the next month since where it says the game status there is no expected date of when the update will be released it just says Sometime in the near future (2022) it means that the update could be any month of this year well that's what I understand then I imagine it would come out I don't know in August, October or December I don't know that's what I understand when mentioning Sometime in the near future (2022)

At this point, just point your finger at a random location on the

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You could also say it's a 50/50: an update either gets released or it doesn't.

 

[Robert rivers]

The guy who made Teachers Pets gaslit everyone, made friends with the mods so when he got into fights with people he got them banned

lol I'm so intrigued why this comment is here yet, I would say my opinion but they would ban the comment or even myself lol Edit: lol!!! I went to the thread of the game and it has a full glosary of rules just to comment! haha crazy how moderators moderate stuff, but who moderates the moderators? (if a mod reads this please don't ban me just erase the comment)

 

[Massivegong]

it is so sad to see such a great game go to a waste...

 

[Deleted member 4714747]

Would it not be better for these sort of threads to be locked. Surely at this point it can do nothing but cause frustration and conflict between its community. If the project does take off again then the dev need only ask the mods to unlock the thread.