Ren'Py Boundaries of Morality [v0.667] [Novel]

[rahul18031]

I cannot get the ending 2.
Someone could give use the choices in order to get that ending (a sort of walkthrough)

i have ending 2. Can someone explain what is the outcome of ending 1,2 and 3.

 

[Jiroah]

I cannot get the ending 2.
Someone could give use the choices in order to get that ending (a sort of walkthrough)

Try to have a little bit of resistance before the sex scene so leave the room, call Tyler if you have lied about the price of the dress, call Steven if you can then return to Victor.

When he try to insert the plug, just talk to Emma to cause extra pain. When he begin to fuck clic on pinch yourself. In the change of position pick the one that increase resistance.

 

[Jiroah]

i have ending 2. Can someone explain what is the outcome of ending 1,2 and 3.

Ending 1 : Emma fully submited to Victor and has probably lost herself in the process.

Ending 2 : Emma succeed to not show any sign of pleasure and the sex bacome a battle between Victor and Emma.

Ending 3 : The Ending in between. She fails at showing no pleasure without submiting completely and wondering if she can return back to herself.

That's all we know for now. The real outcome of the sex scene with Victor will come in future updates.

 

[Saerwen]

The game will be sent to Steam for consideration eventually, my advice is to support the Devs. financially as they continue to work on the game to make it the best game they have ever developed.

If you want to support the dev, buy the game on itch.io. Steam refused the dev and this is mentioned 100 times already.

 

[DarthSpitz717]

Ending 1 : Emma fully submited to Victor and has probably lost herself in the process.

Ending 2 : Emma succeed to not show any sign of pleasure and the sex bacome a battle between Victor and Emma.

Ending 3 : The Ending in between. She fails at showing no pleasure without submiting completely and wondering if she can return back to herself.

That's all we know for now. The real outcome of the sex scene with Victor will come in future updates.

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Actually its a bit more complicated

Ending 1 : Emma fully submitted to Victor and has probably lost herself in the process. It is the least value in content but yes Emma losses it

Ending 2 : Emma succeed to not show any sign of pleasure and the sex become a battle between Victor and Emma. And that is where it gets complicated... If you "need to think about it" first and then let the timer runout without pinching yourself, you get the total fall

Ending 3 : The Ending in between. She fails at showing no pleasure without submitting completely and wondering if she can return back to herself.

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Swing and a miss.... Maybe, maybe not

I'm not sure where the developers are taking the game. So, have I swung and missed or did the developers...?

My suggestions on solving the Victor solutions makes sense but only if I understood what the developer was working toward. As I understand the game the main arc is the corporate politics while the Justin and etc. other male NPCs are small sub-paths (not expecting Justin to punch Victor in the face) ... Where I thought of it as Emma becoming corrupt and it was either a surrender, reluctant resistance, or walking away, the developer went with an Indecent proposal solution to the cliffhanger.

So how much of this game is corruption and where Emma is in control...?

The only thing I've been able to {likely} keyed on is that pregnancy most likely be in the game. Since Victor is using the fact Emma has a husband and hammers on that point, he still uses a condom. Take what you will from it what you want, Victor being responsible, or failing to make Emma his and risking an unwanted pregnancy (power trip for Victor either way).

I just don't know what the overall plan is

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The solutions I mentioned much earlier... are there after getting all three outcomes.

First, you can end the update quicker and just surrender, but if you "think about it" that is the solutions to the Victor Cliffhanger and it comes down to how far you want Emma to fall. Now when it comes to phone calls... I am not sure how impactful endings 2 and 3 are because of who you talked too.

But as noted, earlier a condom was in use .... but you get Emma kissing back.

The condom might be the only weak sauce if outcomes 2 and 3 are the goal. The logic is Victor tells Emma is now his--OK! But if you are taking another man's wife, wouldn't planting your seed in her be the ultimate act of possession? And since this is a Victor power play....

However, at the end... it's the kissing back Victor that truly tells Emma's place of mind. Yes, kissing is an act of physical pleasure but when you pour passion into it.

Now... FYI those are the scenes

But maybe it's not over yet. Regardless of endings 1, 2, or 3 the scenes could continue. And I hope they do to set the plots in motion down the road. And why I don't envy the developer because to really finish up Victor and Emma, that is a lot of computing and rendering.

Personally, if I was writing the story:

*Ending 1, the scene ends as it began, transactional, one night of sex to keep the job safe
*Ending 2, hard fall... because you get Emma kissing back, Victor removes the condom, and Emma allows Victor to "own" her
*Ending 3, as above but Emma makes Victor keep the condom on

 

[Sousuke1234]

*Ending 1, the scene ends as it began, transactional, one night of sex to keep the job safe
*Ending 2, hard fall... because you get Emma kissing back, Victor removes the condom, and Emma allows Victor to "own" her
*Ending 3, as above but Emma makes Victor keep the condom on

Unless dev changed his mind on this Viktor won’t remove a condom. Someone asked dev about this on Patreon and he replied sth like: Viktor is a rich man who likes women and he wants to live a long healthy life so it won’t happen but maybe in the future.

 

[Sousuke1234]

Okay, he might not take off the condom, but... What about the anal plug? When Emma kissing back , could Viktor try anal sex with her?

Only dev knows this. The only thing we know is what Viktor said at the beginning of the scene that his cock is not for her ass and the toy is a gift for her husband stating he is not sadist unless someone wants it. My wild guess is he wants Emma to offer it herself. Aside from the anal plug there is a vibrator for some reason and whether it's to stimulate her clit or to insert it while he is in her ass is still unknown.

 

[C2H5OH + H2O]

Unless dev changed his mind on this Viktor won’t remove a condom. Someone asked dev about this on Patreon and he replied sth like: Viktor is a rich man who likes women and he wants to live a long healthy life so it won’t happen but maybe in the future.

You probably missed the conversation between Emma and Victor, where Emma clearly explains who Victor is and his attitude towards women. Yes, he's rich. But he has no love for women. Sex and domination.

 

[Sousuke1234]

You probably missed the conversation between Emma and Victor, where Emma clearly explains who Victor is and his attitude towards women. Yes, he's rich. But he has no love for women. Sex and domination.

It's not my words but dev reply and by liking he probably meant like fucking every single one of them so he uses protection to not get STDs.

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[C2H5OH + H2O]

It's not my words but dev reply and by liking he probably meant like fucking every single one of them so he uses protection to not get STDs.

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We may not have understood each other. I was talking about Victor's soul and his attitude towards women, not about his penis and condom. But there is no safe sex. Even a rubber woman can burst at the most inopportune moment and make you stutter for life.

 

[Sousuke1234]

We may not have understood each other. I was talking about Victor's soul and his attitude towards women, not about his penis and condom. But there is no safe sex. Even a rubber woman can burst at the most inopportune moment and make you stutter for life.

I only cited dev who said he likes different women(means fucking them and that's why he's using it) and never claimed he had any love for them. I am perfectly aware of his attitude towards women.

 

[Saerwen]

It's not my words but dev reply and by liking he probably meant like fucking every single one of them so he uses protection to not get STDs.

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Interesting. Here those who hate realism will say fuck the test but it's what makes porn games interesting. Rare to see reasonable male and female characters who protect themselves during sex! The game is obviously written by the dev who knows how adult relationship works, I can't wait for more!

 

[DarthSpitz717]

Unless dev changed his mind on this Viktor won’t remove a condom. Someone asked dev about this on Patreon and he replied sth like: Viktor is a rich man who likes women and he wants to live a long healthy life so it won’t happen but maybe in the future.

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Well thanks for the intel from the Patreon page as to the developer's thoughts actually I was looking up the Patreon page to join and will do so at the end of the month... though I'm finding the Page might be a host of games but am only interested in this game

"Viktor is a rich man who likes women and he wants to live a long healthy life so it won’t happen but maybe in the future."


That is one way to look at it, but it cuts both ways that logic being rich, but we overlook something about Victor's character (other than just being a POS). He's fueled by a massive ego. And that ego of his is a critical plot element in Victor's character.

Being rich allows Victor to run reckless with his ego; his wealth is a means to that end.

What I am suggesting in my post is what gives the audience the greater impact in the story.

Let's look at the facts of the situation. You got Victor, a guy wealthy enough to wine and dine any woman of quality, deliberately chasing a married Emma. And at every chance he gets, Victor reminds Emma she's married and even belittles Tyler to her face. I suspect what really drives Victor is his desire to humiliate and break Emma because she is married. The other office secretary, Jill, is just as hot as Emma is so it's not just about looks. If he breaks Emma, is a massive power trip. And he went way out of his way to pleasure Emma and not himself. Emma is married and not like an escort or maybe a single woman is less likely to be carrying any diseases... and if somehow, she got pregnant she is just as likely to push it off as Tyler's as get rid of it.

Now when you add up Victor's character elements, what is a more dynamic and impactful event to end endings 1, 2, or 3? Emma gets sperm from a man she hates, or a no harm no fowl condom? It's just not that moment of what happens, it'll have long term effect on Emma (emotionally, physically, her marriage, and future dealing's).

 

[DarthSpitz717]

Okay, he might not take off the condom, but... What about the anal plug? When Emma kissing back , could Viktor try anal sex with her?

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Ok... Emma catches Victor with the flight attendant, and it makes sense he would use protection. A random woman whom he really has no interaction with, but what if Victor wanted Emma to catch him?

Honestly the whole plug makes the whole scene as hot as it is, even though anal play isn't my stick.

But besides going in raw with Emma or not (though it would be so Victor to seed another man's wife), the endings 1, 2, and 3 are not resolved fully. So just guessing Victor is going:

*Going to get passionate a lay on Emma where Emma can embrace and cling on to Victor as he pounds her
*Going to finish after about a minute and the game moves on

So just guessing what Emma is going to do:

*She encourages Victor to really lay into it
*She will maintain just enough control to save a bit of herself

Well all have to keep in mind... there might be one more night in Paris after the auction, but if there isn't there is a long flight home... with Victor

 

[Sousuke1234]

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Well thanks for the intel from the Patreon page as to the developer's thoughts actually I was looking up the Patreon page to join and will do so at the end of the month... though I'm finding the Page might be a host of games but am only interested in this game

Page is a host of his previous finished games but currently he only posts this one.

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Ok... Emma catches Victor with the flight attendant, and it makes sense he would use protection. A random woman whom he really has no interaction with, but what if Victor wanted Emma to catch him?

Honestly the whole plug makes the whole scene as hot as it is, even though anal play isn't my stick.

But besides going in raw with Emma or not (though it would be so Victor to seed another man's wife), the endings 1, 2, and 3 are not resolved fully. So just guessing Victor is going:

*Going to get passionate a lay on Emma where Emma can embrace and cling on to Victor as he pounds her
*Going to finish after about a minute and the game moves on

So just guessing what Emma is going to do:

*She encourages Victor to really lay into it
*She will maintain just enough control to save a bit of herself

Well all have to keep in mind... there might be one more night in Paris after the auction, but if there isn't there is a long flight home... with Victor

I assume she will keep some sense of control even in ending 1 she has some short epiphany about what's happening. At the end of the day she is not a whore and it will hit her that she's cheating on Tyler either way or I at least hope so ^^. Dev posted one render form morning after and she's not happy at all of what happened, whether it's for all ending or not time will tell.

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[DarthSpitz717]

Page is a host of his previous finished games but currently he only posts this one.


I assume she will keep some sense of control even in ending 1 she has some short epiphany about what's happening. At the end of the day she is not a whore and it will hit her that she's cheating on Tyler either way or I at least hope so ^^. Dev posted one render form morning after and she's not happy at all of what happened, whether it's for all ending or not time will tell.

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Upon now the game was just amusing... Justin, peeking tom, maybe Nathan etc. Not worth supporting the developers. However, from a fluff game to a thoughtful well developed set of characters now makes it worth supporting to encourage the quality. Though to get Emma's stats to the point where a player can make real impactful choices, you need the fluff side stories.


There are only two things I'll be looking for in the next update. First the conclusion of Victor/Emma because it can't be just left there--too much is left on the table that will push the narrative regardless of what is coming. Second yes the aftermath--perhaps the most important plot setup of the whole game. When Emma is alone in her bed thinking of the night, maybe curled up in a ball an emotional wreck, we get to see how she internalizes it, what plans she will make, promises she will make (and if a player chose too, break.)

But seriously... the long flight back home alone with Victor (and flight attendant) where she is stuck with Victor is going to be key with how the aftermath is delt with

 

[MZy321]

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Upon now the game was just amusing... Justin, peeking tom, maybe Nathan etc. Not worth supporting the developers. However, from a fluff game to a thoughtful well developed set of characters now makes it worth supporting to encourage the quality. Though to get Emma's stats to the point where a player can make real impactful choices, you need the fluff side stories.


There are only two things I'll be looking for in the next update. First the conclusion of Victor/Emma because it can't be just left there--too much is left on the table that will push the narrative regardless of what is coming. Second yes the aftermath--perhaps the most important plot setup of the whole game. When Emma is alone in her bed thinking of the night, maybe curled up in a ball an emotional wreck, we get to see how she internalizes it, what plans she will make, promises she will make (and if a player chose too, break.)

But seriously... the long flight back home alone with Victor (and flight attendant) where she is stuck with Victor is going to be key with how the aftermath is delt with

She might fly back home alone, since Victor may need to take care of business in France.

 

[Jiroah]

Could there be another sex scene between Emma and Victor, on the plane back home?

I love how you are asking question that we can't answer right now...

But in my humble opinion i don't think it will happen.

 

[Jiroah]

With Emma traveling alone with Victor to Paris, the game, which had been quite cold in previous updates, suddenly became very hot! I'm eager to see how this story ends, because I think Emma is now going to start having sexual experiences with other men. Emma crossed the line and cheating her husband; I think that night of sex is going to mess with her head.

I will just remind you that we only got half an update for Xmas so right now Emma is "forced" to cheat... But there is the possibility to just return to her own room (and so no cheating) that will probably come next update.

 

[gregorioVII]

Try to have a little bit of resistance before the sex scene so leave the room, call Tyler if you have lied about the price of the dress, call Steven if you can then return to Victor.

When he try to insert the plug, just talk to Emma to cause extra pain. When he begin to fuck clic on pinch yourself. In the change of position pick the one that increase resistance.

Thank you it works!