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quarzo

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You won't find traits in the online editor. I'm using a hex file editor, HxD (any will do, this was the first one I found).
Editing like that might feel intimidating at first, but it's still somewhat easy - BotN saves are a jumbled mix of strings and hex values.
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Each creature, including the breeder, is roughly 27KB in size, or a little less than 7k in offset (the values in the left column). Data begins with the character's name, and ends with stats and traits. The order of the creatures is the same as in the game, so if you want to edit the breeder, just search for the first monster's name and scroll up slightly.
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Traits are listed as strings in a container, GameplayTagContainer. They consist of the string length in a hex byte increased by one, three zeroes, the string itself, and an ending zero.
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The selected trait is 21 characters long, and counting the zero that marks the end of a string, it gives 22, which translates to 16 in hex (1*16 + 6).
Order of traits doesn't matter, but it's the safest to insert them between other traits.
After you are done modifying the traits, you need to change the container count as well - in the middle of that long dotted line, there'll be a number corresponding to how many traits the creature has. Don't forget to change that as well, or it may break the save, ignore some of the traits, or crash the game on load.
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Warning, some of the traits don't have immediate impact on the character, or have additional tinkering involved with them.
For example, biggus dickus will work as intended, but adding the boobage trait will have no effect whatsoever. But since you have the trait, you can then breed that monster, and the offspring generated with it will have them working properly. I think stat-changing traits don't work immediately as well. Additionally, the gaudy trait involves a gaudy tag somewhere in the middle of the creature's data. I didn't catch enough fancy monstrosities to figure out how it works yet.

Should I post a list of the traits I found?




duuuuuude ty very much for you tutorial.

i want share some traits i found, if you guys can share too more traits info pls post it.



13 00 00 00 54 72 61 69 74 2E 46 6F 72 6D 2E 48 6F 6D 69 6E 61 6C 00 Trait.Form.Hominal
12 00 00 00 54 72 61 69 74 2E 53 69 7A 65 2E 4E 6F 72 6D 61 6C 00 Trait.Size.Normal
10 00 00 00 54 72 61 69 74 2E 53 69 7A 65 2E 48 75 67 65 00 Trait.Size.Huge
11 00 00 00 54 72 61 69 74 2E 46 6F 72 6D 2E 46 65 72 61 6C 00 Trait.Form.Feral
11 00 00 00 54 72 61 69 74 2E 53 74 61 74 2E 53 74 6F 69 63 00 Trait.Stat.Stoic
17 00 00 00 54 72 61 69 74 2E 53 74 61 74 2E 4B 69 6E 64 68 65 61 72 74 65 64 00 Trait.Stat.Kindhearted
15 00 00 00 54 72 61 69 74 2E 53 74 61 74 2E 44 65 62 61 75 63 68 65 64 00 Trait.Stat.Debauched
11 00 00 00 54 72 61 69 74 2E 53 74 61 74 2E 4D 65 61 74 79 00 Trait.Stat.Meaty
16 00 00 00 54 72 61 69 74 2E 41 70 70 65 61 72 61 6E 63 65 2E 48 75 6E 67 00 Trait.Appearance.Hung
14 00 00 00 54 72 61 69 74 2E 53 74 61 74 2E 53 61 64 69 73 74 69 63 00 Trait.Stat.Sadistic
15 00 00 00 54 72 61 69 74 2E 53 74 61 74 2E 44 69 76 65 72 67 65 6E 74 00 Trait.Stat.Divergent
14 00 00 00 54 72 61 69 74 2E 53 74 61 74 2E 48 6F 72 6E 62 61 6C 6C 00 Trait.Stat.Hornball
11 00 00 00 54 72 61 69 74 2E 53 74 61 74 2E 53 77 69 66 74 00 Trait.Stat.Swift
17 00 00 00 54 72 61 69 74 2E 41 70 70 65 61 72 61 6E 63 65 2E 47 61 75 64 79 00 Trait.Appearance.Gaudy
11 00 00 00 54 72 61 69 74 2E 53 69 7A 65 2E 4C 61 72 67 65 00 Trait.Size.Large
15 00 00 00 54 72 61 69 74 2E 53 74 61 74 2E 4E 75 72 74 75 72 69 6E 67 00 Trait.Stat.Nurturing
13 00 00 00 54 72 61 69 74 2E 53 69 7A 65 2E 4D 61 73 73 69 76 65 00 Trait.Size.Massive
11 00 00 00 54 72 61 69 74 2E 53 74 61 74 2E 4A 75 69 63 79 00 Trait.Stat.Juicy
17 00 00 00 54 72 61 69 74 2E 41 70 70 65 61 72 61 6E 63 65 2E 53 6C 69 63 6B 00 Trait.Appearance.Slick
17 00 00 00 54 72 61 69 74 2E 41 70 70 65 61 72 61 6E 63 65 2E 42 75 73 74 79 00 Trait.Appearance.Busty
14 00 00 00 54 72 61 69 74 2E 53 74 61 74 2E 48 65 64 6F 6E 69 73 74 00 Trait.Stat.Hedonist
1A 00 00 00 54 72 61 69 74 2E 41 70 70 65 61 72 61 6E 63 65 2E 41 74 79 70 69 63 61 6C 00 Trait.Appearance.Atypical
19 00 00 00 54 72 61 69 74 2E 41 70 70 65 61 72 61 6E 63 65 2E 53 6C 65 6E 64 65 72 00 Trait.Appearance.Slender
18 00 00 00 54 72 61 69 74 2E 53 74 61 74 2E 4E 79 6D 70 68 6F 6D 61 6E 69 61 63 00 Trait.Stat.Nymphomaniac
13 00 00 00 54 72 61 69 74 2E 53 74 61 74 2E 46 65 72 74 69 6C 65 00 Trait.Stat.Fertile
14 00 00 00 54 72 61 69 74 2E 53 74 61 74 2E 53 61 64 69 73 74 69 63 00 Trait.Stat.Sadistic
 

xd4z3dx

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Sep 17, 2017
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i want someday you can change the race of the character from human to nephilim.
you can with a hex editor, just search the name of the nephlym you want and mark where "Variant" starts for it, then search ahead for "Stats" and copy paste everything from "Variant" to right before "Stats". its like 7000 lines of hex per character though.
 

Ashurael

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Looking like the order for race releases will be: Sylvan, elves, orcs, then goblins over the next 2-3 builds. Slimes Thriae Undead Formurian Starfallen Risu Alraune
 

Wolf98

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Feb 2, 2018
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Any one know when any sort of sound will be added? Still a fan and I get it's still got a lot of work a head, but after all this time kinda feels off not have any sounds. Even just some basic place holder even, non-H stuff.

Guess it's a nice reminder that I very much take being able to hear for granted.

Edit: Anyone know what harvest vs capture semen does?
 
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mecha_froggy

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Oct 17, 2018
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Any one know when any sort of sound will be added?
We need a sticky on page 1:

Audio = Bottom of the priority list.
Cheats = Press "O"
Gay Animations = Not even on the priority list.
Cheats = Press "O"
Where do I find... =
Cheats = Press "O"
What do I use to... =
Cheats = Press "O"
How do I... =
Cheats = Press "O"
I want to play as a... = Search Thread for "Hex Editor"
Cheats = Press "O"
How to activate cheats? = Go to drive C: and right click "FORMAT"

 

myt000

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Aug 21, 2018
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i want share some traits i found, if you guys can share too more traits info pls post it.
13 00 00 00 54 72 61 69 74 2E 53 74 61 74 2E 43 68 61 72 6D 65 72 00 Trait.Stat.Charmer
12 00 00 00 54 72 61 69 74 2E 53 74 61 74 2E 47 72 75 6E 67 79 00 Trait.Stat.Grungy
14 00 00 00 54 72 61 69 74 2E 53 74 61 74 2E 56 61 6C 75 61 62 6C 65 00 Trait.Stat.Valuable
18 00 00 00 54 72 61 69 74 2E 41 70 70 65 61 72 61 6E 63 65 2E 43 68 75 62 62 79 00 Trait.Appearance.Chubby
13 00 00 00 54 72 61 69 74 2E 53 74 61 74 2E 53 74 65 72 69 6C 65 00 Trait.Stat.Sterile
18 00 00 00 54 72 61 69 74 2E 41 70 70 65 61 72 61 6E 63 65 2E 48 79 62 72 69 64 00 Trait.Appearance.Hybrid
17 00 00 00 54 72 61 69 74 2E 53 74 61 74 2E 41 62 6F 6D 69 6E 61 74 69 6F 6E 00 Trait.Stat.Abomination
 
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mecha_froggy

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We don't have the actual game build shared yet, do you happen to have that too? Thanks.
This is probably intentionally, as the notes say that internal templates have been stripped to the bone. He probably would rather let everyone had an extra day or two to play with the creature builder first than listen to people whining about how there's not enough premade models anymore. At least that's my guess.
 

ZTex

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This is probably intentionally, as the notes say that internal templates have been stripped to the bone. He probably would rather let everyone had an extra day or two to play with the creature builder first than listen to people whining about how there's not enough premade models anymore. At least that's my guess.
I don't think so.

There's a test build on his patreon for the same version.
From my quick searching what people here are linking is the Creator version with hotfix from other sites. There's a number of them that all have it but not the Test version of the game.
 

jakewi

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Long time lurker, blah blah blah
Apologizing now for the novel that follows...

Going to go a different route, and ask about something that's actually in the game now and how it works instead of the sea of "I want this", "Where's That", etc.

With the advent of the breeding color tags in the creator, and only presets in the folder being supported as opposed to baked in, a sea of questions popped into my head with regards to:

How does it work?

So question 1:
If Parent A has Overall Red, and Parent B has Overall Blue:
Are the options to pull from for the result overall Red (specifically from A), overall Blue (specifically from B), and any other overall Red OR any other overall Blue in the pool OR
Is it overall Red (from A specifically), overall Blue (from B specifically), and any from the pool that are both Red AND Blue tagged (and if it doesn't exist, it defaults to one of the first options)

And question 2:
With the 3 options of Overall, Attachment, and Skin colors:
Is it tree'd; as in it finds a matching overall first, and if there's more than one goes to the attachments, and if more than one goes to skin (or whichever order it goes) OR
Is it flat; as in it checks all 3 for available matches in the pool, and just picks a match from everything that coincides

I ask as it makes a HUGE difference how you set up your preset tags so you don't evolve into a single color variant that takes over your entire ranch (I'm looking at you teal and gray exotic with the white hand prints!)
Knowing would make it MUCH easier to know what variants and tags you want to have to avoid all combinations ending with the same result

And I'll end with an idea that could streamline it all, and avoid the need for 8 billion presets to cover all the possibilities:
Have each color tag breed through individually if no preset exists for whichever answer to Question 2 (Overall, Attachments, Skin)
That way you only need one preset with each color tag as an option for each; as in if there are 10 base color tag options you'd need 30 presets and it would cover every possible option to breed through if you worked at it, whereas with presets only, you'd need 1000 presets to cover them all (per creature type... otherwise known as, a LOT)

I'm no programmer and have no idea if that'd be "easy or viable or even wanted", but am a math and variety junkie hence the entirety of the above questions/idea :)
 
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