Ed360

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Release Notes: 0.741 Alpha
  • Added Cove of Rapture gate progression
  • Male breeding tasks are no longer generated when futa only is on

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SukebeDude

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His reasoning is that getting fucked by a dick-chick is gay, but fucking a dick-chick isn't gay... because... uhhh...

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Seems pretty logic to me, it's breeding game and one creates an offspring while the other does not, not saying it's right or wrong but it's not illogical.
Edit: I just realized what you said and what i argued doesn't necessarily correlate, feel free to ignore.
 
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Since a mod deleted my post for "trolling" and "attacking the dev" because I gave honest criticism I'm posting it again but modified so sensitive people don't get offended on a porn site.

I don't think the dev is trying 100%. The past few updates have been adding gates that block off certain areas. That was not needed as the game was open so you could explore the creatures you want the most. The dev also refuses to put balls on futas, which wouldn't even be hard to change. The dev also refuses to have male on male or futa on male content when it would be really easy to do, and like the futa fetish you could put a checkbox to block that content if you don't want it. With how much the dev is getting from patreon I would think that the game would have more substantial updates.
 

nm79

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I think the dev already said he's now testing quest structures and other interactivity.

People have been complaining about how there's nothing else to do except fucking and now that he's looking into adding in something else than fucking, people complain how they have to do something else than fucking :rolleyes:

Reading all these complaints has given me a terrible headache from eyerolling and that's not even a joke.
 
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I think the dev already said he's now testing quest structures and other interactivity.

People have been complaining about how there's nothing else to do except fucking and now that he's looking into adding in something else than fucking, people complain how they have to do something else than fucking :rolleyes:

Reading all these complaints has given me a terrible headache from eyerolling and that's not even a joke.
It's not that we are complaining about quests being implemented, we are complaining about how they are implemented. I would love quests.... If the rewards are actually something cool rather than unlocking a gate to somewhere I have already been in a previous update.
 

Blueberryjam

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It's not that we are complaining about quests being implemented, we are complaining about how they are implemented. I would love quests.... If the rewards are actually something cool rather than unlocking a gate to somewhere I have already been in a previous update.
This is the issue with playing an incomplete game. The developer may make changes to progression that were not there before to slow down players. Beyond giving feedback in a constructive way, the only thing you can do is withdraw financial support if you do not like it.

As for some of your previous comment on testicles on futa or Male/Male or Futa/Male content, that is a decision that the dev makes. If the dev is not into either then why force the issue? Happy dev = more updates in my experience. Unhappy dev = abandoned project.
 

mecha_froggy

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There was a this spate of hyper-productivity about a year ago where he cranked out all the hybrids in less than two months. I mention this because it is proof that he can bust ass when he wants to. Even before that the game went through a lot of changes, new areas being added, the critters stopped spawning out of the ground, leashes were removed, surprise sex became a thing, and lots more. Then things slowed down a bit but stuff was still happening: We did get two new positions since then (lotus and waterfall), and some size expansions with existing ones (once upon a time your human breeder literally had no sex scenes outside his own Medium size), and the shark girls, bee girls, elves, orcs, starfallen and goblins got added... even if they all suffer from a bad case of same-face. The map got remade more times than I can remember, too.

It was pretty damn impressive.

And then... I don't know what happened. The "breeding task board" got added, which is something I see actually being useful in another, oh, five or six years of development. Right now, though, most people don't even know it's there and those that do couldn't care less about it. Then the mermaid got added, which gave players hopes of there being a new mermaid to capture, but nope, it was just her and she was originally just there to remove the grungy trait that nobody asked for in the first place. Then he added death-by-falling, which I admit is realistic but again was something that nobody had asked for. And the latest farce is the so-called "quest system" that, once again, nobody asked for.

Now I understand the need to put something in the game other than just more sex scenes. Hell, I was one of those people asking for that myself. However, things that people wanted like actual gene mixing for colors (instead of coin-flip premade paint schemes), the potion system promised years ago, and more breeder customization options that everyone was asking for have all been ignored. Stats still mean nothing and there are still zero interactions besides sex and milking.

Meanwhile, all development seems to be focused on end game stuff. Does there eventually need to be some quests? Sure! Do we eventually want that breeder request board to mean something? Sure! But these are things that should have been added way down the road and after more important (and more desired) things were done first.

Half the sex position chart is still full of Xs. There are no potions, no equipment, no items other than fluids and even those only exist for captures and selling. There is still only one breeder outfit. Stats and levels are still meaningless. There's still no farm upgrades other than the critter houses. Fast travel is still a chore (why the fuck is the farm portal on the opposite side of the farm from your house?) and exploration even more of a chore (yes, it looks great, but even the most impressive backgrounds are still just backgrounds). You're face choices are anime-sameface and ferals, and feral faces can't even be adjusted at all (try it - the sliders do nothing) - which is especially bizarre considering the sheer number of sliders and randomization options for everything below the neck. And we still only have, what is it, four hairstyles for every critter in the game?

In summary: It's not that DH isn't working. He's still moving ahead almost as fast as he used to. The problem is that it seems to be entirely in the wrong direction.
 

Vagician

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People have been complaining about how there's nothing else to do except fucking and now that he's looking into adding in something else than fucking, people complain how they have to do something else than fucking
Could be different people. Some people just want a sex sim, some want other stuff. I've rarely seen good normal game content in an h-game so I don't count on it. It would be cool, but it seems unlikely to shoehorn good game play into a fuck sim. Not impossible, but just not that likely.
 

casper110

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its a lot harder than you would think to come up with good mechanics in a game like this, on the discord, ive seen more test builds in the last month than there has been in a while. it just takes time for the mechanics to fully ironed out
 

Dirgha

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There was a this spate of hyper-productivity about a year ago where he cranked out all the hybrids in less than two months. I mention this because it is proof that he can bust ass when he wants to.

And then... I don't know what happened.
Perhaps he got burnt out?
That happens to hyper-productive people sometimes.
 
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ankhtar

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The burn out would have easily been resolved, or at least alleviated if he hired help and/or commissioned work, but so far that seems to be something he just doesn't want/refuses to do, for some reason. I haven't been to patreon lately but according to what people say, money doesn't seem to be the problem.
 

nm79

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The burn out would have easily been resolved, or at least alleviated if he hired help and/or commissioned work, but so far that seems to be something he just doesn't want/refuses to do, for some reason. I haven't been to patreon lately but according to what people say, money doesn't seem to be the problem.
Like others have said: Look how Breeding Season fared

I'm fine with the game taking a long time to finish or update as long as it steer clear of similar drama and burning to death because of some Cloud Meadows asshole.
 

ankhtar

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Like others have said: Look how Breeding Season fared

I'm fine with the game taking a long time to finish or update as long as it steer clear of similar drama and burning to death because of some Cloud Meadows asshole.
The way Breeding Season ended was a mess in many ways, that much is not being questioned, but if we refuse to delegate and/or reach out for cooperation out of fear that someone might kick us in the jingles, nothing will ever get done anywhere (within a reasonable time frame). That applies to both game development and life in general.

He Who Shall Not Be Named killing Breeding Season only proved that there are some dunces out there with little regard to what they do and who they hurt, but I have sincere doubts that every professional artist and coder in existence is out to scam people, especially when their livelihood hinges on said professionalism.

Now, I ain't kicking the game in it's proverbial nuts here, I'm honestly rooting for it. I've been starved for this kind of content since Breeding Season went tits up and I want this game to succeed so I (and many others, I imagine) can finally fill that void. However, the vast majority of people aren't patient. The game taking a long time to finish or update might be an acceptable compromise for you, but most aren't willing to stand in the same place for too long with nothing to show for it, especially when they have money in it. This is true for anything between triple A titles and porn games. People will get tired/bored, cancel their pledges and move on to support another game/project. That's what I'm afraid of - that support begins to cease, the dev cuts his losses and pulls the plug. That seems to be a common occurrence when it comes to this specific type of game.
 

mecha_froggy

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IMHO, the reason Breeding Season imploded was that a bunch of greedy narcissists got together and decided that they'd all be equal partners and get equal shares, which of course failed because being greedy narcissists everyone considered themselves to be the MVP and deserve a bigger slice than everyone else. Goes with the territory.

The solution to that, however, is not to have one guy isolate himself on some island and work alone forever. The solution is to

1) Start a legit company and place himself at the head of it. This is a lot cheaper and easier than most people think, especially for a "game studio" because you don't need any physical workspace to put it in. It only need to exist on paper, which is good enough for the government.

2) Hire staff as needed. Not partners, not shareholders, not friends and/or family. Employees that work for the developer doing specific tasks, getting paid a predetermined amount for their work (it's called a CONTRACT - figure it out), no more, no less. Need animations? Hire an animator. Explain exactly what you want done, negotiate a price and timetable and put it all in writing. If they don't measure up, replace them with someone who does.

3) Enjoy the freedom of getting more shit done and not having to deal drama bullshit because if people get annoying you can just fire them and get new ones.

The problem with Breeding Season is that they ran it like a fucking pirate ship, with voting and shares and trying to get everyone's input and letting all these different people just "do their own thing at their own pace." And because it was all done in shares when money started vanishing (as it always does) everyone got pissy about it - and rightly so, because that was their money too, to one degree or another.

I say fuck that noise! Start an actual business, hire actual staff, reward results and punish failures because you're the fucking boss and your pay is whatever is in the contract. You can just snort the rest up your nose for all the difference it makes to your underlings paycheck.

No drama, no bullshit, just results. It can be done... provided you aren't just slacking off and making play forts out of stacks of money all day.
 
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