sovn

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win surprise sex and max trait level
don't work
to be fair it is written that max trait level doesnt work, also the correct password is "win wild sex", another password missing from the OP that was mentioned somewhere here is "world levels x", just change the x for 5 and all world levels will be 5, which saves a lot of time
 

gemini20xx

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i can't select sex position in breed farm can someone help me please??
You need to unlock them from Pawsmaati, she's got a spot in each Nephelym area to get them from - only free one is in the area with the foxen and vulwargs, others you have to pay for with favor.
 

vastary

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If it freezes like that instead of crashing then it's likely a hardware issue.
I read that an Asus VivoBook Flip takes up to Pentium CPUs... And BotN needs at least an i3.
The i3 is a dual-core quad-thread CPU. I don't think there's any Pentium model like that.
Unless you have at the very least Pentium Dual-Core, if I'm being honest, I don't think it's going to go well for you.
There's probably ways of making it work still, but it might make the game ugly and unstable.
Imagine trying to game with a 50 dolls pc
 

gemini20xx

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Anyone knows how to breed Pride's perfect demon? Everything I breed only ever pops out Nephs with lvl 1 traits
 

muschi26

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Anyone knows how to breed Pride's perfect demon? Everything I breed only ever pops out Nephs with lvl 1 traits
To carry on a trait with higher level, one of the parents must have a trait of that level, and the other must have that trait at least at level 1.
 

b00marrows

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So is there a trait that makes traits transfer easier?
I know theres a trait for incest so if both exist they are the keys to a "perfect neph" Much like ye olde breeding season.... and any other breeding game.
 

ninjahedgehog

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Captured some foxens and Vulkgars but it seems none of the females get pregnant after sever attempts breeding them. The pregnancy option in the menu is definitely on
 

b00marrows

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Captured some foxens and Vulkgars but it seems none of the females get pregnant after sever attempts breeding them. The pregnancy option in the menu is definitely on
Chances are quite low at the start.
Don't know the exact numbers but i could estimate its ~5% at the start?
Best bet is to get one of the breeding nephs with the "increased chance every time you mate" trait.

Could probably calculate it from the fertility stat but dunno.
 

muschi26

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Could probably calculate it from the fertility stat but dunno.
The fertility stat, or possibly the algorithm that uses it, is broken. The wiki states that impregnation is a flat percentage chance equal to the sum of both partners’ fertility ratings, but in my experience the actual chance of a successful impregnation are much, much lower.
 

b00marrows

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The fertility stat, or possibly the algorithm that uses it, is broken. The wiki states that impregnation is a flat percentage chance equal to the sum of both partners’ fertility ratings, but in my experience the actual chance of a successful impregnation are much, much lower.
Im not sure its broken.
I suspect its relatively low even at max stats, this is to allow for traits to still have an impact.
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This one for example. is it 2% per fail or just +2% on the second attempt?

Stats start at around 50 and max out at 1000?
This means at 50 its cant be 0% and at 1000 it cant mean 100%

If i was to guess id suspect a minimum 5% and maximum 50%

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Quick test:
1. Fertility = 385 vs 210 = 10 attempts, 9 fails 1 success = 10%
2. Fertility = 385 vs 220 = 10 attempts, 10 fails = 0%
3. Fertility = 392 vs 220 = 10 attempts, 10 fails = 0%
4. Fertility = 399 vs 230 = 10 attempts, 8 fails 2 success = 20%
5. 399 / 240 = 9 1 = 10%
6. 406 / 245 = 6 4 = 40%
7 413 / 250 = 8 2 = 20%

Now after writing all that down i realize its basically useless because not only do stats grow but its all chances. haha
 
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muschi26

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Im not sure its broken.
I suspect its relatively low even at max stats, this is to allow for traits to still have an impact.
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This one for example. is it 2% per fail or just +2% on the second attempt?

Stats start at around 50 and max out at 1000?
This means at 50 its cant be 0% and at 1000 it cant mean 100%

If i was to guess id suspect a minimum 5% and maximum 50%
(I assume Fertile I gives +2% every subsequent, contiguous attempt, so 1 is +0%, 2 is +2%, 3 is +4%, etc.)

Apparently, it takes into account both parents’ fertility stats so the range would be more like 50–2,000. 5% min. seems about right for a starting character breeding with a level 1 neph, from my experience; I’d say max. is more around 75%. The problem is that, in a way, this makes levels less relevant. You need to be around level 70 to get 1,000 fertility, which means that even gaining 10 levels (e.g. from level 15–25) barely does anything to boost your impregnation chance—the “reward” is only once you’re maxed out; each individual level up means nothing. And even if you get to level 70+, your odds still aren’t that high unless you’re also breeding with a neph that’s level 70+.

Quick test:
1. Fertility = 385 vs 210 = 10 attempts, 9 fails 1 success = 10%
2. Fertility = 385 vs 220 = 10 attempts, 10 fails = 0%
3. Fertility = 392 vs 220 = 10 attempts, 10 fails = 0%
4. Fertility = 399 vs 230 = 10 attempts, 8 fails 2 success = 20%
5. 399 / 240 = 9 1 = 10%
6. 406 / 245 = 6 4 = 40%
7 413 / 250 = 8 2 = 20%

Now after writing all that down i realize its basically useless because not only do stats grow but its all chances. haha
You’d need at least 100 tries with each combination for it to be worth anything, statistically speaking, and yeah, without having the stats grow (so e.g. doing a number of attempts, then reloading the save when you level up).
 

b00marrows

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Apparently, it takes into account both parents’ fertility stats
Thats a given, make no sense otherwise.
I suspect its a roll on both sides. Both sides check for a success and 2 successes = pregnancy.

Statistic progress is exponential. As you get better nephs (bovaur for example) with a higher base fertility you can escalate the games progress faster.
Faster again when you start leveling the zones to get better base nephs.

One of the early development ideas was the breeder is the TRAINER. Meaning the breeder becomes the base levels and stats by being high levels and "pumping" a ton of XP/stats into new nephs. Which is deffinety a thing.
Once you get a higher grade stat (stats have levels and grades) the breeder can boost both the level and a stat of a neph quite fast.
Its the grind, the game has to have some substance at the end of the day.
 
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