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Brothel City 1.0 build
Hi, dear friendvert!
This is Alice from Darot Games, creators of Brothel City game.
Today we have a 2-year anniversary of our Patreon page!
During these years we've succeeded in creating a mid-core adult city-builder strategy game that actually has no analogs within the NSFW gaming industry.
More than 150 unique sexy illustrations, hours of gameplay, classic economy mechanics and much more!
Because of our Page's Birthday, we send a link to Brothel City version 1.0 build to all the Patrons who supported us for more than $20 during these 2 years and it doesn't matter if you are still with us, or quit supporting because of some reasons - you made your contribution to the creation of the game.
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Yeah, I wanted to ask what's different from the previous version except the glaring lack of campaign. Nothing new seems to have been added, while stuff was taken away....so maybe keep the previous version up for now? It's more 'complete'.
Unless something extremely important was fixed/updated, or some balance reworked....I can't see how this release is any better than the previous one.
so i downloaded the new V and there is no campaign anymore, nor is it in the freeplay, so i need that changelog even more :/
- May 4, 2017
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What I'm going to say are assumptions from what I've been able to understand (that said, my English has improved a lot since I switched to another online translator 
).
The changelog for this version 1.0 was not given, but they talked elsewhere about "we were focused on polishing the game, fixing lots of small bugs, and, what is more important: The game should not lag anymore."
Then, this version 1.0 is a base, assumed to be about stable, which will then receive modules / add-ons / updates / you say as you wish, but which will require this version 1.0.
According to their Tiers, these updates should include the Campaign, new girls....
).The changelog for this version 1.0 was not given, but they talked elsewhere about "we were focused on polishing the game, fixing lots of small bugs, and, what is more important: The game should not lag anymore."
Then, this version 1.0 is a base, assumed to be about stable, which will then receive modules / add-ons / updates / you say as you wish, but which will require this version 1.0.
According to their Tiers, these updates should include the Campaign, new girls....
So, it's 1.0... I hoped for some changes, but it's 1.0.
Can't really figure out if it's 2 or 3 star game.
The good:
- Actual management porn games are quite rare and this one pushes a lot of right buttons. Building and unlocking stuff(at least early on) feel quite nice.
- The art is pretty good.
- Some ideas behind characters and mechanics are solid.
The bad:
- Two game speeds: snail and breakneck. + pause.
- No real gameplay design, just features dumped into the game without any logic behind it.
- No synergy(beyond grain->beer, juice->wine) or any sort of connection between buildings. You just dump as much as you can fit onto the map when the demand reaches supply value.
- No interactivity or control over anything, or even data which is required for this type of game.
- Stupid gameovers. Either you get all your money stolen by a thief that manages to sneak past all of your defences or you get a mass exodus chain of events when a drop in reputation causes higher level patrons to leave, dropping your reputation, which means high level lodgings are empty and lower level clients can's sustain your expenses. And then you reach -x000 gold and get evicted because your business worth hundreds of thousands is couple thousands gold in debt. Really now.
- The synergies that are in the game are extremely unreliable. You have a possessed building and a succubus who should be able to "eat" the ghost, but she never comes near that building and so the ghost stays, unless you are willing to spend 50 faith, which you will need during the next random "plague" when you run out of healing potions etc...
- Tech trees and factions are mostly bad and underdeveloped. -1 shyness, oh wow! Spending exp to up the relationship with factions, which decays over time.
- Isometric view is REALLY bad for this type of game. You just get lost in all of the buildings and some times miss ones behind bigger buildings. This game needs a toggleable top-down view. Blocking zones(can't put two of the same buildings too close to each other) don't help because you now have to fit buildings to each other as well as other copies. Lots of blank spaces you can't put anything into.
- The message spam... OMG, the message spam. The filters do not work consistently. And the game doesn't differentiate between "Barely relevant", "Nice to know" and "Need to know".
How would I fix it:
Option 1. Less is more approach. Less copies of buildings and girls with more control over them. More non-linear upgrade options. More interactions with girls and clients.
Option 2. Zoning. Buildings giving other buildings bonuses or debuffs within range. Let's say you a vegetable patch and farm, they don't upgrade into each other, but instead farm gives bonuses to vegetable patches in range, so does the well. A brothel debuffs a temple. A pub synergizes with a dining room etc. Some sort of logic behind zoning instead of blind dumping of buildings.
Faction relations are based on what you build instead of exp dumping and how close you put themed building of one faction to a conflicting ones.
Overhaul decrees making them more unique and not so linear, offload some stuff that they do to girls leveling up.
Can't really figure out if it's 2 or 3 star game.
The good:
- Actual management porn games are quite rare and this one pushes a lot of right buttons. Building and unlocking stuff(at least early on) feel quite nice.
- The art is pretty good.
- Some ideas behind characters and mechanics are solid.
The bad:
- Two game speeds: snail and breakneck. + pause.
- No real gameplay design, just features dumped into the game without any logic behind it.
- No synergy(beyond grain->beer, juice->wine) or any sort of connection between buildings. You just dump as much as you can fit onto the map when the demand reaches supply value.
- No interactivity or control over anything, or even data which is required for this type of game.
- Stupid gameovers. Either you get all your money stolen by a thief that manages to sneak past all of your defences or you get a mass exodus chain of events when a drop in reputation causes higher level patrons to leave, dropping your reputation, which means high level lodgings are empty and lower level clients can's sustain your expenses. And then you reach -x000 gold and get evicted because your business worth hundreds of thousands is couple thousands gold in debt. Really now.
- The synergies that are in the game are extremely unreliable. You have a possessed building and a succubus who should be able to "eat" the ghost, but she never comes near that building and so the ghost stays, unless you are willing to spend 50 faith, which you will need during the next random "plague" when you run out of healing potions etc...
- Tech trees and factions are mostly bad and underdeveloped. -1 shyness, oh wow! Spending exp to up the relationship with factions, which decays over time.
- Isometric view is REALLY bad for this type of game. You just get lost in all of the buildings and some times miss ones behind bigger buildings. This game needs a toggleable top-down view. Blocking zones(can't put two of the same buildings too close to each other) don't help because you now have to fit buildings to each other as well as other copies. Lots of blank spaces you can't put anything into.
- The message spam... OMG, the message spam. The filters do not work consistently. And the game doesn't differentiate between "Barely relevant", "Nice to know" and "Need to know".
How would I fix it:
Option 1. Less is more approach. Less copies of buildings and girls with more control over them. More non-linear upgrade options. More interactions with girls and clients.
Option 2. Zoning. Buildings giving other buildings bonuses or debuffs within range. Let's say you a vegetable patch and farm, they don't upgrade into each other, but instead farm gives bonuses to vegetable patches in range, so does the well. A brothel debuffs a temple. A pub synergizes with a dining room etc. Some sort of logic behind zoning instead of blind dumping of buildings.
Faction relations are based on what you build instead of exp dumping and how close you put themed building of one faction to a conflicting ones.
Overhaul decrees making them more unique and not so linear, offload some stuff that they do to girls leveling up.
- Apr 12, 2018
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Well basically you say nice idea for a game, but they failed to get the maximum out of it... I totally agree btw.
But honestly this whole thing only proved that there is a demand for this kind of game and we might see some more of them in the future with different set of qualities... by comparrison we might get some kind of breading season like hype in the near future with rather low quality copies or attempts on the genre until maybe we get one SLOWLY developing project that could actually inherrit this games legacy... at this point the game is most likely dead as even the longterm backers will see that this project reached the point of money maker... high pledges for hardly any improvement/content.
But honestly this whole thing only proved that there is a demand for this kind of game and we might see some more of them in the future with different set of qualities... by comparrison we might get some kind of breading season like hype in the near future with rather low quality copies or attempts on the genre until maybe we get one SLOWLY developing project that could actually inherrit this games legacy... at this point the game is most likely dead as even the longterm backers will see that this project reached the point of money maker... high pledges for hardly any improvement/content.
Yes, actually the removal of lag came with the previous patch. I the only thing 1.0 do is to totally remove the unfinished campain. The reason is that darot game are changing thier buisness model for this game. They will treate the campain mode as "new" game build on top of the sandbox city builder that is brothel city 1.0.
If I understood well what they are saying, for the version with campain you are expected to either buy thier game once on nutaku or support them on patreon for 10$ or more.
I'm dubious about this decision as it's likely that it may drastically reduce thier flow of cash until they can offer a finished campain on nutaku. But maybe their are confident in thier capacity in doing this quickly.
- May 7, 2017
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This game attracts me not because it has explicit scenes inside - no, it dragged me into because it is not a simply porn game where the whole plot spinning around the idea of banging person X or being banged by others. I suppose ppl tired from "just talk and fuck" games, they want to see common game genres with very mature content, when you can not only enjoy gameplay but also have a candy for your eyes.
I mostly agree with you however I more am attracted to the idea that the city becomes more and more lewd due to your actions.
My only problem is that the game is a bit slow and grindy, If they could add a speed function like "The Sims" has, it would be perfect.
Anyone got hints for someone who doesn't want to use cheat engine for getting gold quicker?