Ren'Py Brothel King [v0.3] [Goldo]

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Jman9

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You mean weakness to minions? A girl either has it (=weakness to all minions) or she doesn't and has just one weakness. No middle ground.

AFAIK, the only ways are to 'increase' it are to either a) use Trait King and hope she develops into a Country Girl (astronomically unlikely) or b) order a Country Girl from the Headhunter. Both require you to use mods, and TK is a pretty invasive mod at that (not that I dislike it).
 

RedGreen3

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I can't get to chapter 5 without bleeding money. Everything goes fine until I rank my girls up to A. Once they're at A rank, I can't support the upkeep and no amount of advertisement or changing customer options saves me from bankruptcy.
 

Jman9

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Lower their upkeep then? If you get their mood high enough, they'll work almost for free.

But in general, learn to play better or lower the difficulty. There are lots of moving parts in the game you can tweak. One big thing is furniture. You can send some girls to the farm while you build up furniture. Perhaps punish some to remove their upkeep (and make them do what you want). You can specialise your girls more and leave other stats low to reduce upkeep. Try more group sex. Focus more on quests (is quest income taxable now?). Farm girls for resale.

You can also post your save to see if anyone has more specific advice.
 
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Aqqh

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I can't get to chapter 5 without bleeding money. Everything goes fine until I rank my girls up to A. Once they're at A rank, I can't support the upkeep and no amount of advertisement or changing customer options saves me from bankruptcy.
lower the upkeep
once you establish some reputation, you can cut on advertising as well - there's only so many customers that can be serviced, so going over that number is a waste of money. If i remember right, i was only running the adds for the first few days after moving. then you gradually lower it, all the way down to 0 eventually
invest in passive skills like security or cleaning - that would help spend less
 

Jman9

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... cut on advertising ... all the way down to 0 eventually
That is really not recommended. Unless your girls never reach budget caps, or are all Elite, or some other weirdness like that, lowering your advertising means cutting customer budgets, and quite harshly at that. If you haven't unlocked the billboard yet, do so and check just how badly youre lowering your profits. Move the balance towards budgets if there are too many customers.

invest in passive skills like security or cleaning - that would help spend less
Security and cleaning aren't that good. You want your girl to make profits in her main job first, not spread her progress around. That having been said, the one place where security from girls shines is in being able to go beyond max help, since security needs to be quite near chapter maximums to get any, never mind good mitigation for those bad security events. Cleaning is just a few (dozen) extra gold per girl, that will not save anyone from bankruptcy.
 

__neronero

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the game is dead or what ?
The game is in active development. It has been in development for ~7 years or so. This is a hobby project for the dev, who has never taken any money/donations in all those years. Nor has he ever given any indication that he might abandon the game at some point.

If all goes according to plan, I suspect it will remain in development for at least another 5 years. But plans can change, so who knows.
 

Leortha

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Also keep in mind that Ren'py games are effectively open source. Every time you download BK you have downloaded every bit of source code for the game. This means that, even if the dev did ever abandon it, the game's community could, and IMHO likely would, continue it as a community project. The dev shows no signs of doing that, and the community is not going to stage any sort of hostile takeover, but if somehow the dev was unable or unwilling to go on, I think that BK would go on.
 

Ixiah

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Is there an option or mod that uses up none taken action points ?
Like a mood improving option.
 

Jman9

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Is there an option or mod that uses up none taken action points ?
Like a mood improving option.
What do you mean? Infinite AP? Increase girls' mood? Better game (=your mood :p )?

The first is not technically possible (unless someone codes it), but you can reset your action points with both in-game cheats and King's Way. KW allows you to change many girl values as well, including mood.
 

selberdreher

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Is there an option or mod that uses up none taken action points ?
Like a mood improving option.
Encourage the girls for improving their mood. Or have sex with them. Or train them. Or go around the city.
I am a bit confused, because i never had too much Action Points, on the contrary i usually could use more of them.
 

Ixiah

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No, what i meant was, if i click next day, every AP gets used on basic actions, like mood or love.
 

Jman9

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Something similar has been discussed a little and Goldo seems to be somewhat opposed to this specific method. Also, why even play the game if you want it to play itself? :p

Mood is actually relatively easy to max, so that's a bit superficial. My own solution for love (and I recall someone else doing something similar) was to make love (and fear) normalise to mood instead of zero. Well, trust instead of fear actually, except for masochists.
 
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riseagnst2112

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Sorry if this has been asked before, couldn't find it. Could someone help me understand how exactly stats affect job performance results? For example, beauty and sensitivity are said to be the main stats for masseuse, while body and refinement also help. Are beauty and sensitivity equal in value or is one better than the other? Are they multiplied together and thus should be as even as possible? And for body and refinement, how much worse are they than the main two stats? Is it worth ignoring them completely in stat assignment until the main two are near maxed out? Thanks in advance, loving the game.
 
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Jman9

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Could someone help me understand how exactly stats affect job performance results?
There are basically two effects: matchmaking (which is reflected in the "was elated to meet"/"couldn't find" messages) and stat bonus to score. The latter is part of the displayed 'Skill bonus', the other half of which is relevant job level. There's a moderately complex algorithm that determines the stat bonus.

For example, beauty and sensitivity are said to be the main stats for masseuse, while body and refinement also help. Are beauty and sensitivity equal in value or is one better than the other?

And for body and refinement, how much worse are they than the main two stats?
Sensitivity is special because there's a separate bonus for sensitivity (that only applies to whoring). Otherwise, the main stat is about twice as impactful, and tertiary stats ('boosters') are about half that again. Used to be even lower.

Are they multiplied together and thus should be as even as possible?
No. Each is separately compared to a threshold, and adds to a score used to calculate the 'real' score. As I said, it's an algorithm that can't be explained in a few words.

Is it worth ignoring them completely in stat assignment until the main two are near maxed out?
Depends on what you want to do with the girl. Usually, people max secondary stats first (constitution, obedience, libido).

Do note that if your stats (even tertiary stats) are sub-par, you get a malus.

In general, main stats influence the score more than others. You could get a situation where a low booster can have a bigger negative effect, especially since useful stat values tend to cap out for a given customer difficulty. Of course, these not fixed but variable, sometimes massively so even for the exact same type of customer.

Finally, do not forget that stats contribute to a girl's upkeep and the effects you get from tertiary stats might very well be overshadowed by that.

TLDR: Pump the main stat, then maybe the secondary, and forget about having precise information how the game works. Because it's complex when you actually start looking under the hood.
 

riseagnst2112

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There are basically two effects: matchmaking (which is reflected in the "was elated to meet"/"couldn't find" messages) and stat bonus to score. The latter is part of the displayed 'Skill bonus', the other half of which is relevant job level. There's a moderately complex algorithm that determines the stat bonus.


Sensitivity is special because there's a separate bonus for sensitivity (that only applies to whoring). Otherwise, the main stat is about twice as impactful, and tertiary stats ('boosters') are about half that again. Used to be even lower.


No. Each is separately compared to a threshold, and adds to a score used to calculate the 'real' score. As I said, it's an algorithm that can't be explained in a few words.


Depends on what you want to do with the girl. Usually, people max secondary stats first (constitution, obedience, libido).

Do note that if your stats (even tertiary stats) are sub-par, you get a malus.

In general, main stats influence the score more than others. You could get a situation where a low booster can have a bigger negative effect, especially since useful stat values tend to cap out for a given customer difficulty. Of course, these not fixed but variable, sometimes massively so even for the exact same type of customer.

Finally, do not forget that stats contribute to a girl's upkeep and the effects you get from tertiary stats might very well be overshadowed by that.

TLDR: Pump the main stat, then maybe the secondary, and forget about having precise information how the game works. Because it's complex when you actually start looking under the hood.
Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation! I totally agree that games like this are often better experienced without perfect information about the inner workings. The theorycrafter in me is always happy to learn a bit more, though!
 
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Jman9

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Well, I do know a bit about how the game works, I once rewrote some of it for myself, and I still can't predict the game's behaviour all that much. Putting together a 'mechanics guide' would be a pretty big project. See how much effort went into the tagging guide, and that was a lot easier.

You can always code dive for some specific thing you're after. Just be prepared to see it scattered in a dozen places and lack any neat formulas for the most part. :cautious:

There is also the girl stats (financial and experience, that is) page that's probably the best tool to actually test your theories. There was also SummaryMod, but I guess that's not public any more?
 

NAAPURINJORMA

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im having a problem with being unable to sell any girls any1 know how to fix? i tried to find others with this problem but couldnt find same problem happening to others
theres an image of what happens if i ignore the girl says her goodbye but isnt sold. 1660452371179.png
 
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