DoubleDabbler

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tf = tit fuck? Not sure the MC can do this. Maybe he has to ask Lara for help?!
Hee hee! you know you spend too much time in these forums when you see tf and tit fuck is the first thing that comes to mind.

Seriously though, a strong breeze could knock Tony down. MC would be overkill and thus unjustified unless Tony is actively in his face or messing with Lara or Angelica or Erica, though Lara taking care of her self would be more satisfying. I think if he was messing with Jane and Jessica it would be most appropriate if they both thrashed him, verbally or physically, and sent him running. Jane despised John right off and John's antics make him a saint compared to Tony. So much wasted potential at the birthday dinner.
 
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DoubleDabbler

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What I read in the comments here is that apparently many patreon's supporters like Tony so when they vote they vote for him. Dev has to do what the money wants
I saw similar but for me it has been a little ambiguous what people actually wanted at least based on how polls have been made. For instance, dev mentioned "More Lara Stuff" when talking about the polls. So maybe that explicitly meant more "Tony degrading Lara" stuff and that is how we got here. But to me, "more Lara stuff" doesn't necessarily = "more NTR" and "more NTR" doesn't necessarily = "More Tony." And that isn't even taking into account if we aren't on the NO NTR track.

The only people who have responded when I asked are people like you who feel like there is too much of him which makes me think maybe Tony love is maybe inflated to some degree. So far no on has responded in the affirmative.

I get that people maybe didn't respond because they thought I was picking a fight but I was asking because I had been taking pro-Tony statements I saw as facetious based on my own outlook but started to wonder if they were actually sincere.
 

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I saw similar but for me it has been a little ambiguous what people actually wanted at least based on how polls have been made. For instance, dev mentioned "More Lara Stuff" when talking about the polls. So maybe that explicitly meant more "Tony degrading Lara" stuff and that is how we got here. But to me, "more Lara stuff" doesn't necessarily = "more NTR" and "more NTR" doesn't necessarily = "More Tony." And that isn't even taking into account if we aren't on the NO NTR track.

The only people who have responded when I asked are people like you who feel like there is too much of him which makes me think maybe Tony love is maybe inflated to some degree. So far no on has responded in the affirmative.

I get that people maybe didn't respond because they thought I was picking a fight but I was asking because I had been taking pro-Tony statements I saw as facetious based on my own outlook but started to wonder if they were actually sincere.
My understanding of this is that dev posted polls asking what people wanted more of. Only paid members got to vote, with higher level patrons getting more votes per poll. They overwhelmingly favored Tony/Lara NTR content (mind you it was only about 15-20 actual members that did this), so dev went down that rabbit hole for quite a few updates.
Most other content was left waiting while dev fleshed out that path.
In the interim, most f95 members were not of the same opinion, but you will see many of the patrons here defending their choice, adding fuel to the fire that it became.
Now dev seems to be coming back to some of the other content, and gradually, we may even get away from that huge slab of Tony content (hopefully for a while).
Of course. all the non-ntr path players were/are upset that they had nothing (or very little) to play, for several updates, which also built some resentment towards Tony's character. Especially because it also seems that Tony's fans were egging dev on to include him in the non-ntr scenarios as well.
It has caused a ruckus at times, to say the least.
Hope that helps.
 

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Today is supposed to be released the latest update and so far dev hasn't release a tease about the private jet scene which according to him ended in big cliffhanger in previous release and conclude in new release. That means it will be either exceptional or disappointment.
 

GibboBtw

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My understanding of this is that dev posted polls asking what people wanted more of. Only paid members got to vote, with higher level patrons getting more votes per poll. They overwhelmingly favored Tony/Lara NTR content (mind you it was only about 15-20 actual members that did this), so dev went down that rabbit hole for quite a few updates.
Most other content was left waiting while dev fleshed out that path.
In the interim, most f95 members were not of the same opinion, but you will see many of the patrons here defending their choice, adding fuel to the fire that it became.
Now dev seems to be coming back to some of the other content, and gradually, we may even get away from that huge slab of Tony content (hopefully for a while).
Of course. all the non-ntr path players were/are upset that they had nothing (or very little) to play, for several updates, which also built some resentment towards Tony's character. Especially because it also seems that Tony's fans were egging dev on to include him in the non-ntr scenarios as well.
It has caused a ruckus at times, to say the least.
Hope that helps.
It's always the way with a lot of these VN's. When his higher level patreons are directing the the Devs focus in more niche ways that the majority don't want. You just have to say "eh, whatever then." and just move on for a while. Plenty of other AVN's out there to hold your fancy over until he's done giving them their old man cuckold shit. :LOL: And is then moving back onto doing the fun paths (again, more Cuckquean Lara content please...:love::ROFLMAO:)

I just hope the delays, while they're getting their content are worth it in the end. And eventually, I get to see Tony have a fist put through his head...(y):ROFLMAO:

Just give me something like this and I'll leave a 10* review...:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 

Rehwyn

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I saw similar but for me it has been a little ambiguous what people actually wanted at least based on how polls have been made. For instance, dev mentioned "More Lara Stuff" when talking about the polls. So maybe that explicitly meant more "Tony degrading Lara" stuff and that is how we got here. But to me, "more Lara stuff" doesn't necessarily = "more NTR" and "more NTR" doesn't necessarily = "More Tony." And that isn't even taking into account if we aren't on the NO NTR track.

The only people who have responded when I asked are people like you who feel like there is too much of him which makes me think maybe Tony love is maybe inflated to some degree. So far no on has responded in the affirmative.

I get that people maybe didn't respond because they thought I was picking a fight but I was asking because I had been taking pro-Tony statements I saw as facetious based on my own outlook but started to wonder if they were actually sincere.
My understanding of this is that dev posted polls asking what people wanted more of. Only paid members got to vote, with higher level patrons getting more votes per poll. They overwhelmingly favored Tony/Lara NTR content (mind you it was only about 15-20 actual members that did this), so dev went down that rabbit hole for quite a few updates.
Most other content was left waiting while dev fleshed out that path.
In the interim, most f95 members were not of the same opinion, but you will see many of the patrons here defending their choice, adding fuel to the fire that it became.
Now dev seems to be coming back to some of the other content, and gradually, we may even get away from that huge slab of Tony content (hopefully for a while).
Of course. all the non-ntr path players were/are upset that they had nothing (or very little) to play, for several updates, which also built some resentment towards Tony's character. Especially because it also seems that Tony's fans were egging dev on to include him in the non-ntr scenarios as well.
It has caused a ruckus at times, to say the least.
Hope that helps.
I commented on this a while back:
I honestly think the Tony stuff doesn't have as much support as some of the polls make it seem.

If you have a poll where you can pick only 1 option as a "favorite" out of say 6 and only 1 of those is Tony/NTR, then the fans mostly playing for NTR are mostly going to pick that one even if they like other content too whereas fans not into NTR are going to have their votes spread out across the other 5 options. It dilutes the appearance of people not into it.

By comparison, in the polls where people can vote for more than one option to indicate all the potential content they like, the people playing for NTR can still vote for it, but also any other content they like, and the people that aren't into NTR could vote for up to all 5 of the other options as well. It's honestly a better metric of what type of content is enjoyed in the game, which is probably why some of the more recent polls use that metric.
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There's also a handful of polls where the Tony content is grouped together with other non-Tony content, which makes voting separately impossible.
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Don't get me wrong, there's definitely a good chunk of supporters for the Tony content. But I think it's more likely a vocal minority than a majority.
The TL;DR is I agree that for a while the poll structure themselves likely made it seem like there was more support for Tony NTR stuff than there actually is.

That probably wasn't intentional though. Creating good polls that avoid bias is a whole science in itself.

More recent polls have generally done a bit better job at avoiding that bias, but are still imperfect.
 
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