Manshino

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Yes, me too. I hate the Tony "sidequest". For me this could be cut completly, but i get that others may be interessted into that.
Tony is THE only antagonist by now; if you don't understand why "cut completly" him is such a big deal, that's your problem. CEO is another potential antagonist for harem route, some threat to the MC's harem is essential for fun! Shut up :p
Lara is a goddess and her daughter belong to you, what more do you want? A slice of... :ROFLMAO:
 

Wynnth

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Tony is THE only antagonist by now; if you don't understand why "cut completly" him is such a big deal, that's your problem. CEO is another potential antagonist for harem route, some threat to the MC's harem is essential for fun! Shut up :p
Lara is a goddess and her daughter belong to you, what more do you want? A slice of... :ROFLMAO:
Why do you need an antagonist for a harem? It's not like most LI would like to have a harem.. so there are enough complications to build it for a game to solve. I say "for me, it could be cut completly", that doesnt have to fit for everybody.
Ah and this Tony story is so much forced on the player, i have to tell the game like at least 3 times that i dont want any of this in my playthrough. Even if Lara is going for Tony, why do i have to see that.
 

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Tony is THE only antagonist by now; if you don't understand why "cut completly" him is such a big deal, that's your problem. CEO is another potential antagonist for harem route, some threat to the MC's harem is essential for fun! Shut up :p
Lara is a goddess and her daughter belong to you, what more do you want? A slice of... :ROFLMAO:
What are you talking about? Since when has that been a thing? Where is the "threat" then in some of the bigger well known AVNs that use harems exactly?

Eternum, Desert Stalker, Once in a Lifetime, Projekt: Passion, Cosy Cafe, To Be A King etc etc...Because I don't seem to recall any of them having a giant pain in the ass "threat" in them. Especially one in the form of someone like Tony. :unsure:

If it's "essential" in your eyes. Can you give me some examples of other harem paths in games that do the same then?

IMO, that motherfuckers content just needs to just stay on the NTR path. And outside of that, MINIMAL Interaction...I don't want to keep seeing this annoying cunt constantly lurking like a sad loser, and then sometimes turning up, just to get rejected again and again...:rolleyes:

I'm here for some prime Cuckquean Content. Not fucking Granddad Porn...o_O
 

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Something all the Tony fans do not get. (and probably never will)

Tony is an antagonist on the NTR path.

Players make a choice right at the beginning, at the actual start: NTR-No NTR.

Fine, on the NTR path, you "need" an antagonist, or 2 or 3, or maybe even turn Lara into QOS or turboslut, running through every guy she meets. That can all happen. Its all pure NTR. Maybe she could even drag Angel along with her at some point. Who knows, right?

But, on the No-NTR choice, there are still antagonists looking to hijack MC's girls, and turn him into a cuck somehow, not only Tony, but BBC characters as well.

There is/was a cuckquean, harem? and swinging path in the No-NTR section of this AVN. Anyone looking for "tension" can find it, without loser Tony in the mix, simply by the choices they make around Angel, Erica and Lara's interactions with MC and other NPCs present in their scenarios. Getting Lara to accept Angel and Erica into a harem, with her as cuckquean, would provide plenty of tension, if done right.

There is no valid reason for Tony to be anything but just another shitty boss that Lara never interacts with on any other level than work situations, and even that leaves scope for her to be sexy and/or slutty if the dev chooses, with co-workers/Miranda etc.

The fact that there is so much NTR crossover is just a sign that the NTR-loving patreons (and the dev) wanna be whiny little bitches getting their rocks off by possible humiliation setups for MC, even in that part of the game, where they (and Tony etc) just should not belong.
 
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I think conflict over NTR stuff partly comes from people wanting or liking different things from it. Some people like the idea of the MC being humiliated, but I like it because it makes the women feel like they actually have some agency and preferences and can choose, it makes them seem less like just fantasy dolls that are there for the player. So whatever a dev does they're probably satisfying one of those audiences and frustrating the other
 
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I think conflict over NTR stuff partly comes from people wanting or liking different things from it. Some people like the idea of the MC being humiliated, but I like it because it makes the women feel like they actually have some agency and preferences and can choose, it makes them seem less like just fantasy dolls that are there for the player. So whatever a dev does they're probably satisfying one of those audiences and frustrating the other
Maybe not humiliated, but male MC losing control of the situation.
But the story isn't really progressing in the last few updates. Seems like the developer doesn`t want to got the next big step.
 

Manshino

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I am okay with NTR in games, but please if i press the button "no-ntr" then hide it from the player.
Other games do it and it can't be that of a problem.
So play other games... :WeSmart:
Seriously I don't understand your point, Lara should work for an all-female TV network? :giggle: I never used "no-ntr" button but in my Lara route Tony is only a dirty old man who doesn't get laid, nothing annoying, he just exist.
 

Wynnth

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So play other games... :WeSmart:
Seriously I don't understand your point, Lara should work for an all-female TV network? :giggle: I never used "no-ntr" button but in my Lara route Tony is only a dirty old man who doesn't get laid, nothing annoying, he just exist.
I should play other games? This one used to be called “Babysitters” in most content around babysitter porn you can't find NTR. If you check the genre list in this thread, there’s not even NTR mentioned. Maybe "they" (who ever they is) should not lure no-NTR fans into games, that have more or less forced NTR.
 

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I should play other games? This one used to be called “Babysitters” in most content around babysitter porn you can't find NTR. If you check the genre list in this thread, there’s not even NTR mentioned. Maybe "they" (who ever they is) should not lure no-NTR fans into games, that have more or less forced NTR.
Dang, you should sue man. You shouldn't let this stand, I hope you recover from the stress and wasted time and money from playing this.

(just like the guy above, I haven't seen NTR through my choices, so maybe there's a bug or you're nitpicking too much)
 
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Guys who cares about this NTR debate, I'm going to be fucking famous.
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Yes, you are famous here among all the ladies in this circle, and all the ladies want you to cum with your big nut right in their uterus and get them pregnant from you, and for you to be the father of 20 children, a cool dream and your happiness, respect to you for such zeal for the ladies.
 
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