Found a neat bug. On a brand new save did the tutorial. On the first loop I was nice to Sami and took the luggage, peeped on her in the evening and the next day I entered the bathroom when she is talking to Lin. Her model randomly shifts between normal, pregnant and pregnant with no panties. If you pick the first option it causes a random error too.
I deleted my save file in both places too and repeated the same steps, just to make sure I could easily replicate it.
I'm pretty sure the Altered Note Lisa corruption is broken on my save. I've got all the conditions but the dialogue to get Lina to help doesn't trigger. It says in the 1st image below that I haven't talked with Lin on this loop, but I have. In the 2nd image there should be a dialogue option "Borrow Lina's Camera" according to the in-game guide, but it doesn't pop up.
I've almost finished and am excited to give my review. One thing I haven't really been able to figure out, though, is the whole mystery element. Here's my speculation so far:
Finally I decide to play after so long xDD because I downloaded it but I couldn't play it because of time and work.
I pass the first day, I activate the cheats to reveal the routes. day two... I go to bother sammy who is in the bathroom with Lin... an error arises.
I click Rollback and use the mouse wheel to go back scenes before, the game blocks the options. It only leaves me one to use, and that's the one that gave me the error. xDDDD
I've almost finished and am excited to give my review. One thing I haven't really been able to figure out, though, is the whole mystery element. Here's my speculation so far:
I think that's all of the secret lore though, atleast what we can speculate with what the game gives us. There's a worn out journal that appears after 50(?)WC but Nunu is always teasing me with it's contents. There's also normal stuff that happens before the reunion with the girls, but they are pretty mundane AFAIK.
And there's also spoilers that Nunu has given previously in old comments, though I absolutely refused to even glance at them. That's cheating and no fun. (And depending on the spoiler, probably outdated?) anyways. My comment ended up being a lot longer that I expected, lol.
is it normal that during haily c4, after you follow the clues to find her and go to her room, lina shows up with a picture of lisa and lin instead? im actually quite confused right now
Best way to implement a "gallery" in this game, should you decide to (maybe for the final version?) would imo just be a "next scene" list accessible only from the pause screen during gameplay that snapshots the current variables in the run, and skips you to the start of that scene, with ones that are not currently possible/need something else first being inaccessible/greyed out. Skipping would also be a great feature from a user standpoint as a cheat of some sort, as you could skip dialogue you already read before but kept messing up the exact way to the next scene/unlock.
every scene is in a time loop over a weekend, so i think it just needs galleries per character, and for each character you have the time slots they have scenes in. for cases with multiple scenes in a given time slot, just give all of them as options and their requirements, so you know which ones to go for if you're checking them in order.
with what words? i searched for "urn" and i found nothing, i searched for "puzzle" and only found stuff about the card game, the suitcase and the beach riddle, so i have no clue ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
with what words? i searched for "urn" and i found nothing, i searched for "puzzle" and only found stuff about the card game, the suitcase and the beach riddle, so i have no clue ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I think that's all of the secret lore though, atleast what we can speculate with what the game gives us. There's a worn out journal that appears after 50(?)WC but Nunu is always teasing me with it's contents. There's also normal stuff that happens before the reunion with the girls, but they are pretty mundane AFAIK.
And there's also spoilers that Nunu has given previously in old comments, though I absolutely refused to even glance at them. That's cheating and no fun. (And depending on the spoiler, probably outdated?) anyways. My comment ended up being a lot longer that I expected, lol.
You're GOATED Blake. This is really interesting. Has anyone recorded what the Babysitter says in her interactions with you? I did see her once via the menu but can't remember what she said, and I only got to choose 1 of the 4 options of course.
Also I forgot to say this in the previous one, but it seems relatively clear to me that the MC isn't aware of the loop (we read his thoughts and he is still surprised by the same things), and combining this with the fact that the Babysitter speaks directly to the Player, it seems that the reason the MC can do different things everything loop regardless of corruption is because we are controlling him, and we are part of the story. I.e. the story breaks the 4th wall.
i don't understand. i can't use the camera on the note. I gave the note to cassidy and Alex on previous routes, but the option is not there. It has to be on some combination of levels or something? because i just can't get pass this.
You're GOATED Blake. This is really interesting. Has anyone recorded what the Babysitter says in her interactions with you? I did see her once via the menu but can't remember what she said, and I only got to choose 1 of the 4 options of course.
Also I forgot to say this in the previous one, but it seems relatively clear to me that the MC isn't aware of the loop (we read his thoughts and he is still surprised by the same things), and combining this with the fact that the Babysitter speaks directly to the Player, it seems that the reason the MC can do different things everything loop regardless of corruption is because we are controlling him, and we are part of the story. I.e. the story breaks the 4th wall.
hehe~ I've always enjoyed secret lore like this so I tend to create my own theories and try to archive everything about it, it really reminds me of peak Gravity falls in a way. (DELTARUNE 4 DAYS AGO BABY)
I remember archiving the questions and the answers, but never actually posted the quotes. I still have the save and the version it works on, so I can try to do it again. (Future me here. I checked the Wiki, but appears that the secret lore is, in fact. Secret. So here it is the interactions with her. Surprisingly the exploit still works on recent versions, though it will crash after picking an option. probably because its an older save)
Pretty sure I've gotten the other two encounters on my current save so I won't be able to archive them in here.
And Yes. MC is completely oblivious to things looping and probably always will be. Talking from a meta standpoint Nunu has made it really REALLY clear about their opinions on consent (See Lin's comment about MC and Carla and that one scene of Sami and Alex that had to be rewritten multiple times) and I feel that MC doing the things he does knowing he can just loop back would make his actions too rapey.
LOL. I was pretty active back then and Lisa tends to make people ask around here about her puzzles, even though I answered them two comments before, sorry about that lol.
But answering your question. you don't "Give" the note to Lisa. Lisa takes it from you.
When opening the suitcase the game checks if you solved the code or if you have the Altered Note, Then she catches MC opening the suitcase and when asking "May I ask what you think you're doing?" you are given some options.
IF you DON't have the code, then you'll only get "Lin gave me permission" and "It's for a quest"
IF you HAVE the code then you'll be able to choose "I solved your puzzle" MC will take out the note and show it to her but with a twist. Turns out that what Cassidy said was true and it has a secret message inside.
After failing the quest in that loop you need to start a new one, but because of Looping shenanigans you now remember to alter the note. To do that you only have to grab the note, witness Lina's camera working and ask for Lina's help under the tree, all in the same loop, no need to go with the other girls. Then, you choose again "I solved your puzzle" and you'll give her the altered note.
Keep in mind that because of a bug on recent versions it is currently impossible to have the code (Since Haily hint gets skipped automatically) and by extension the option to give Lisa the note as an excuse. I recommend you to go to page 134 on this forum for the patch that Nunu dropped a few weeks ago that fixed Hailey.
In short: Get the note > talk to Cassidy about the note > Then talk to Alex about the note. > Then talk to Hailey under the tree about the note to get the code > Unlock the suitcase with the code > Use the Note as an excuse > Fail the quest. > New loop > Get the note > See Lina's camera working > Ask for Lina's help > Unlock the suitcase with the code > use the note as an excuse again > ??? > Profit
hehe~ I've always enjoyed secret lore like this so I tend to create my own theories and try to archive everything about it, it really reminds me of peak Gravity falls in a way. (DELTARUNE 4 DAYS AGO BABY)
I remember archiving the questions and the answers, but never actually posted the quotes. I still have the save and the version it works on, so I can try to do it again. (Future me here. I checked the Wiki, but appears that the secret lore is, in fact. Secret. So here it is the interactions with her. Surprisingly the exploit still works on recent versions, though it will crash after picking an option. probably because its an older save)
Pretty sure I've gotten the other two encounters on my current save so I won't be able to archive them in here.
And Yes. MC is completely oblivious to things looping and probably always will be. Talking from a meta standpoint Nunu has made it really REALLY clear about their opinions on consent (See Lin's comment about MC and Carla and that one scene of Sami and Alex that had to be rewritten multiple times) and I feel that MC doing the things he does knowing he can just loop back would make his actions too rapey.
LOL. I was pretty active back then and Lisa tends to make people ask around here about her puzzles, even though I answered them two comments before, sorry about that lol.
But answering your question. you don't "Give" the note to Lisa. Lisa takes it from you.
When opening the suitcase the game checks if you solved the code or if you have the Altered Note, Then she catches MC opening the suitcase and when asking "May I ask what you think you're doing?" you are given some options.
IF you DON't have the code, then you'll only get "Lin gave me permission" and "It's for a quest"
IF you HAVE the code then you'll be able to choose "I solved your puzzle" MC will take out the note and show it to her but with a twist. Turns out that what Cassidy said was true and it has a secret message inside.
After failing the quest in that loop you need to start a new one, but because of Looping shenanigans you now remember to alter the note. To do that you only have to grab the note, witness Lina's camera working and ask for Lina's help under the tree, all in the same loop, no need to go with the other girls. Then, you choose again "I solved your puzzle" and you'll give her the altered note.
Keep in mind that because of a bug on recent versions it is currently impossible to have the code (Since Haily hint gets skipped automatically) and by extension the option to give Lisa the note as an excuse. I recommend you to go to page 134 on this forum for the patch that Nunu dropped a few weeks ago that fixed Hailey.
In short: Get the note > talk to Cassidy about the note > Then talk to Alex about the note. > Then talk to Hailey under the tree about the note to get the code > Unlock the suitcase with the code > Use the Note as an excuse > Fail the quest. > New loop > Get the note > See Lina's camera working > Ask for Lina's help > Unlock the suitcase with the code > use the note as an excuse again > ??? > Profit
Well, Cassidy seems to "remember" somethings. Because even when i cheat to go back in time, she is like "did't we talk like this before?" and you can't talk to her again, she just skips the dialog.
And even thou i haven exactly explored her level 3, it's about exploring the island and what the f is going on around. With her cristals and the energy and all that stuff...
Like she remembers, and even in the next loop, the dialog changes a little the second time you start some conversations with her. And apparently she is next to get a new level, so maybe the MC will get some awareness, maybe not on the loops per se, but on their existance.
That now the game that was just a "3 days loop sort of harem" has a deeper history to it.
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Now, my problem with the code was that i didn't knew the code, it was an alien code to me, a code that i had to follow in-game clues to get and there was no other way to get them. The same with the other answer:
Well, Cassidy seems to "remember" somethings. Because even when i cheat to go back in time, she is like "did't we talk like this before?" and you can't talk to her again, she just skips the dialog.
And even thou i haven exactly explored her level 3, it's about exploring the island and what the f is going on around. With her cristals and the energy and all that stuff...
Like she remembers, and even in the next loop, the dialog changes a little the second time you start some conversations with her. And apparently she is next to get a new level, so maybe the MC will get some awareness, maybe not on the loops per se, but on their existance.
That now the game that was just a "3 days loop sort of harem" has a deeper history to it.
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Now, my problem with the code was that i didn't knew the code, it was an alien code to me, a code that i had to follow in-game clues to get and there was no other way to get them. The same with the other answer:
Honestly, I don't really know a whole lot about Cassidy. I stopped playing before she started to get content and right now I'm still catching up with the rest. But she's always been a special case. Probably top 3 on the "Resistance to looping" tierlist.
And don't worry about the Tunnel vision thingy. It happens to the best of us and Lisa in particular has some mean puzzles. Apparently Nunu has said that they are done by a friend/coworker who's a bit of a cryptographer nut so they are particularly difficult by design haha (Flashbacks to the spinoff "Lisa's Quest")
"Cabin By The Lake Time Cheat.rpyc" is not version specific and will work for current and future version of the game. *Unless Nunu312Decides To Remake The Game*, Updated to add extra time slot and for the Ren'py keymaping update.
"Cabin_By_The_Lake_Cheat_v2" Will need updating for new future dialogue content, but should still work just fine. You just won't be able to re-ask questions.
Cabin_By_The_Lake_Cheat_v3 Updated to add extra time slot for the game and added reset for the new contents.