VN Ren'Py Casual Desires [v0.19b] [ionDivvy]

[Kwil]

Oh noes.. developer of free game had expectations of their own performance beyond their ability. Obviously deserves to be crucified for such.

Anybody jumping on the dev at that point is at least partially responsible for any additional slowdowns. When you make it so that any entry into the project is met with screaming mobs accusing someone of lying for what I assume they also feel as a personal failure, it becomes extremely hard for the dev to justify to themselves getting back into it at all.

You want more of a game? Provide payment. Provide praise. Provide patience.

Those three things will go a *lot* further toward getting a dev to move forward with a game than *any* hint of negativity ever well.

If you really think the dev is lying, or are personally offended by their comments or whatever, be the bigger person and silently walk away. Don't shank them and spoil whatever opportunity is left for the rest of the people who don't share your impatience.

 

[johnie82]

Well there was a Rebel Duet Patreon update 1 day ago.
The game went from 50% completed on dec. 30 to nearly complete on jan 18 with a release date in the next 2-3 weeks acc. to the post. It even mentions that ionDivvy "originally expecting this to be a smaller and more sex-focused update, but it ended up becoming a fairly substantial one"

So everyone guess which game is more important.

And yes i was shaking my head when i saw the RD post in my email.

 

[somerandomfoolheckyeah]

Well there was a Rebel Duet Patreon update 1 day ago.
The game went from 50% completed on dec. 30 to nearly complete on jan 18 with a release date in the next 2-3 weeks acc. to the post. It even mentions that ionDivvy "originally expecting this to be a smaller and more sex-focused update, but it ended up becoming a fairly substantial one"

So everyone guess which game is more important.

And yes i was shaking my head when i saw the RD post in my email.

I know right? IonDivvy is a piece of crap for allocating their time however they want. How dare they spend time and energy into a project which we get to enjoy for free. Along the way they made mistakes with estimates such as project balancing, scope creeping, and burnout. Unforgivable.

Thank god I am not an indie game developer who has to put with entitled cunts like you. Get a fucking life.

 

[Turret]

I know right? IonDivvy is a piece of crap for allocating their time however they want. How dare they spend time and energy into a project which we get to enjoy for free. Along the way they made mistakes with estimates such as project balancing, scope creeping, and burnout. Unforgivable.

Thank god I am not an indie game developer who has to put with entitled cunts like you. Get a fucking life.

What a Stuß your post is! While there are some(!) entitled players, for most critics it is the constant lying of Iondivvy why they are so pissed! As I wrote before, if Iondivvy would have been truthful, stating openly that RD will be the main focus and so on, the CD fans would have been sad, but understood the situation.
INSTEAD Iondivvy made grand promises e.g. "RD would have no or minuscle impact on CD development" and other speeches, all(!) turned out to be lies. Even now he dodges and admits only to lies he cannot weasel out anymore. He is clearly a person believing in the dogma "Why tell the truth, when a boldfaced lie will do?"

Just for example, the developer of Moonripple Lake has a lot on his plate in real life currently. He openly told the fans what is going on and that development will probably only start in spring again. While sad, since ML has serious potential, the fans understand the situation, you will not hear much grumbling in that thread.
See the difference? And that is the reason Iondivvy will never get even a Groschen from me again.

 

[Tkdmoe]

Oh noes.. developer of free game had expectations of their own performance beyond their ability. Obviously deserves to be crucified for such.

Anybody jumping on the dev at that point is at least partially responsible for any additional slowdowns. When you make it so that any entry into the project is met with screaming mobs accusing someone of lying for what I assume they also feel as a personal failure, it becomes extremely hard for the dev to justify to themselves getting back into it at all.

You want more of a game? Provide payment. Provide praise. Provide patience.

Those three things will go a *lot* further toward getting a dev to move forward with a game than *any* hint of negativity ever well.

If you really think the dev is lying, or are personally offended by their comments or whatever, be the bigger person and silently walk away. Don't shank them and spoil whatever opportunity is left for the rest of the people who don't share your impatience.

"Oh noes.. developer of free game had expectations of their own performance beyond their ability. Obviously deserves to be crucified for such."

This is such a cop out. Even if it were true, it wouldn't justify the behavior of the devs. Also, the dev has a patreon. I'm sure there are people who subbed to the patreon just to support the dev making this game.

"You want more of a game? Provide payment. Provide praise. Provide patience."

I understand this sentiment to an extent. There has not been an update to this game in over a year. At some point, the dev needs to own up to the situation. We've been given promises that were not kept. This is not new for gaming at all. Some devs have done this just to scam people (Scam Citizen).

I don't believe their is malice or purposeful ill intent by the devs. But some accountability would be nice to see from them. It wouldn't be hard for them to say "Hey, we messed up. We underestimated the workload and had contractual obligations with our other game through steam"

But that's not what's happening.

"If you really think the dev is lying, or are personally offended by their comments or whatever, be the bigger person and silently walk away."

So it's not okay to complain? Have you met gamers at all? We complain about the most innocuous shit in gaming?

And you know what? A lot those complaint are okay.

"Don't shank them and spoil whatever opportunity is left for the rest of the people who don't share your impatience."

So the problem is the complainers? Not the lack of content for over a year on a visual novel. Not the fact that promised updates were never given.

Is your whole argument that complaining hurts the feelings of developers? Good. Some criticism is deserved here. It's wild to me that people want to push this whole issues into two camps. Either you are completely fine with the developers decisions or you are actively trying to sabotage the developer. News flash, that's not the way this is going. Most of us I think would be completely fine with an apology and decent communication.

 

[johnie82]

How dare they spend time and energy into a project which we get to enjoy for free.

You do realise there is a reason why i can read the Patreon only posts, right?
Hint: You can not enjoy these for free.

 

[ionDivvy]

As I wrote before, if Iondivvy would have been truthful, stating openly that RD will be the main focus and so on, the CD fans would have been sad, but understood the situation.

It's been stated several times, including in this thread, that RD is the main priority due to it being on Steam.

Keep in mind Casual Desires is ~70% complete after Chapter 20, so it's not like there are a ton of updates left, anyway. I may add a few extra chapters if the CD Steam release is successful, but otherwise I'd like to complete the project before the end of 2026.

 

[Turret]

It's been stated several times, including in this thread, that RD is the main priority due to it being on Steam.

Yes, but afterwards like the old carnival, when you had no other choice but tell something. We CD fans remember well your promises a la "no impact on the development of CD", which turned out to be all(!) broken. And several of them were lies from the start in hindsight.
By the way shamed be he who thinks evil of it that now it is suddenly 2026 you want to end CD or your line of CD is 70% finished, so not much is coming further more. 70% finished means nearly a third is still open!
Are you our economics minister in disguise? That guy is a zero in math too! But nice try glossing over!

Normally I am not harsh with developers, but I cannot stand proven serial liars and obfuscators! You will not get my trust again.