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RNasc4444

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You got things all mixed up.

Pregnia was the non-functional Prizer pregnancy drug that Sarah used to work on before she left that company.

Prizer is wrongfully suing Polygene based on the false premise that Sarah took Pregnia research to found her own Polygene.
Oh you may be right. It's been quite a while since I played the story from the start. I thought "Pregnia" was a Polygene drug that Prizer believed was based on their IP. Thanks for the clarification.
 

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I just got to play the update, I'm on the date with Lisa. What choices do I have to choose to have MC being dominant??
 

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the 2 worst villains of the 2 games....
It's hard to classify P as a out and out villain though - it's more like he's misunderstood.

It's a trope that's commonly used on antagonists - you give them a detailed background to give them humanity, so that they appear that they are not out and out evil.

SFS aren't doing that with their villains though - the Pfizer boss and Vince (the hitman) don't have redeeming qualities. Sure, they are presented as Bond villains - unrealistically evil, but that's their role in the story and someone has to do it.

I hate it when devs add a bunch of villains then they shape them out as grey characters and in the end there are no villains in the story.
 

felicemastronzo

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It's hard to classify P as a out and out villain though - it's more like he's misunderstood.

It's a trope that's commonly used on antagonists - you give them a detailed background to give them humanity, so that they appear that they are not out and out evil.

SFS aren't doing that with their villains though - the Pfizer boss and Vince (the hitman) don't have redeeming qualities. Sure, they are presented as Bond villains - unrealistically evil, but that's their role in the story and someone has to do it.

I hate it when devs add a bunch of villains then they shape them out as grey characters and in the end there are no villains in the story.
either there is a huge plot hole in the early chapters or the parents, although not classic villains, are the antagonist in Jaye and MC's relationship

even though they then pretend to have wanted to remain neutral
 
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Cabin Fever

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the 2 worst villains of the 2 games....
How is James a villian? If nothing else he's presented in the story as a pretty flawless good guy.

It's hard to classify P as a out and out villain though - it's more like he's misunderstood.

It's a trope that's commonly used on antagonists - you give them a detailed background to give them humanity, so that they appear that they are not out and out evil.

SFS aren't doing that with their villains though - the Pfizer boss and Vince (the hitman) don't have redeeming qualities. Sure, they are presented as Bond villains - unrealistically evil, but that's their role in the story and someone has to do it.

I hate it when devs add a bunch of villains then they shape them out as grey characters and in the end there are no villains in the story.
Except that's not the Prizer boss, it's Jaye's father.
 
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Cabin Fever

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Never said that it was the Prizer boss. I was giving the Prizer boss as an example to the guy I replied to, since the topic of the post was villains to begin with. :rolleyes:
Fair enough. But can't blame me for being confused when you add a 3rd entirely unmentioned character to a response that shows only P & J.
 

felicemastronzo

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How is James a villian? If nothing else he's presented in the story as a pretty flawless good guy.


Except that's not the Prizer boss, it's Jaye's father.
all the problems between Jaye and Mc are his (and his wife's) responsibility, if there is a chance that Mc will let Jaye drown at sea it is his responsibility.

and I'm not talking about secret theories but directly recounted events

why don't Jaye and MC talk to each other for years leading, at least on Jaye's part, to an apparent hostility?
because Mc as a child decides not to accompany her to school any more and for this Jaye takes great offence.

but James and Sara know what happened and reassure MC that they'll work things out with Jaye, but they never do (Jaye only finds out through MC's mouth) and are content to watch as the two foster siblings grow more and more estranged from year to year, until the final breakup during the high school graduation party, and even after that they watch MC risk his life to travel the world and Jaye struggle in this failed relationship.

but then they have the courage to tell mc that they knew all about the feelings between the 2, but decided to remain neutral. the perfect parents. :cautious:
 

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all the problems between Jaye and Mc are his (and his wife's) responsibility, if there is a chance that Mc will let Jaye drown at sea it is his responsibility.

and I'm not talking about secret theories but directly recounted events

why don't Jaye and MC talk to each other for years leading, at least on Jaye's part, to an apparent hostility?
because Mc as a child decides not to accompany her to school any more and for this Jaye takes great offence.

but James and Sara know what happened and reassure MC that they'll work things out with Jaye, but they never do (Jaye only finds out through MC's mouth) and are content to watch as the two foster siblings grow more and more estranged from year to year, until the final breakup during the high school graduation party, and even after that they watch MC risk his life to travel the world and Jaye struggle in this failed relationship.

but then they have the courage to tell mc that they knew all about the feelings between the 2, but decided to remain neutral. the perfect parents. :cautious:
You are absolutely correct and I recall thinking the same when I read it the first time. In fairness, James and Sara were just following the script. Heh. They should have tried an ad lib. :p
 
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felicemastronzo

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You are absolutely correct and I recall thinking the same when I read it the first time. In fairness, James and Sara were just following the script. Heh. They should have tried an ad lib. :p
What is jarring is this claim of neutrality, because if they had wanted to intentionally distance their children it would have been manipulative but understandable (of course not when they were children, but later as teenagers)
 
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motseer

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What is jarring is this claim of neutrality, because if they had wanted to intentionally distance their children it would have been manipulative but understandable (of course not when they were children, but later as teenagers)
Honestly, this story has quite a lot of examples of miscommunication, comedy of errors and low-brow human nature. Sometimes I get to thinking that it could have been written with a bit more subtlety. Then I think about some of the people I've known and the things they've done or not done... Or I spend five minutes catching up on the news... I'm sure you can infer the rest.
 
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