VN Ren'Py Completed Chasing Sunsets [v1.01] [Stone Fox Studios]

[Ariostebaldo]

I think the MC went crazy when he read the exchange between Motherfucker and Jaye on her mobile, which made him suspect an attempted rape.

The way the MC reacted when he read the phone messages are understandable. I'm talking about when he seen Christian getting out of Jaye room. He got upset with Jaye (who wasn't at fault), but he didn't talked with her about it. He just realized what really happened when read the messages and after that things snowballed.

 

[Terminator_26F]

In fact, except for legal or administrative reasons, depending moreover on the country where the action takes place, technically and biologically the MC and Jaye are not related. They could well have met in the street, in a bistro or on the platform of a train station and developed a complete romantic relationship. But are they aware of it? The fact of having had a common childhood and adolescence can effectively maintain them in this state of siblings. Deep down inside, Jaye is a good girl and she actually loves the MC. Perhaps she feels guilty because of this feeling, which drives her to this unpleasant behavior? 5 years later, we have an idea when they reunited in George's office. Then, on the boat, it's up to the Dev to enlighten us on the evolution of his characters ... without forgetting the need for the MC and Jaye to have to manage together the inheritance of their parents.

 

[Deleted member 2093814]

Ain't that everyone in this thread?




As soon as we get a drop of character development on her she'll probably melt but that'll be a long time coming.

I swear though that if the guy from the helicopter is that piece of shit molestor, I want my MC to drop kick him AND Jaye over the side of the yacht...if she brought him then it`s goodbye and fuck you very much sis.

 

[Ariostebaldo]

In fact, except for legal or administrative reasons, depending moreover on the country where the action takes place, technically and biologically the MC and Jaye are not related. They could well have met in the street, in a bistro or on the platform of a train station and developed a complete romantic relationship. But are they aware of it? The fact of having had a common childhood and adolescence can effectively maintain them in this state of siblings. Deep down inside, Jaye is a good girl and she actually loves the MC. Perhaps she feels guilty because of this feeling, which drives her to this unpleasant behavior? 5 years later, we have an idea when they reunited in George's office. Then, on the boat, it's up to the Dev to enlighten us on the evolution of his characters ... without forgetting the need for the MC and Jaye to have to manage together the inheritance of their parents.

I can understand why to forbid relationship between siblings - same blood, birth disease and all that. But what is the reason for prohibiting relationships between step-siblings after all?

You must be registered to see the links

 

[v1900]

I can understand why to forbid relationship between siblings - same blood, birth disease and all that. But what is the reason for prohibiting relationships between step-siblings after all?

You must be registered to see the links

It is because western modern law is heavily based on christianity laws and beliefs (protestantism in particular I think).

 

[punisher2099]

It is because western modern law is heavily based on christianity laws and beliefs (protestantism in particular I think).

Its because of patreon always patreon

 

[Retrofire]

It is because western modern law is heavily based on christianity laws and beliefs (protestantism in particular I think).

In the United States, each state has their own laws, however it's mostly not a legal issue. There's still a social stigma associated with step-siblings dating even where there is no legal enforcement. Not everyone subscribes to that, but it's woven heavily enough into the social consciousness that even those who see no problem with it know they'd be signing up for a lot sideways glances and awkward questions were they to act on it.

 

[v1900]

In the United States, each state has their own laws, however it's mostly not a legal issue. There's still a social stigma associated with step-siblings dating even where there is no legal enforcement. Not everyone subscribes to that, but it's woven heavily enough into the social consciousness that even those who see no problem with it know they'd be signing up for a lot sideways glances and awkward questions were they to act on it.

Would you look at that, I read upon your information and yes, apparently only Virginia criminalizes non blood related step sibling marriage. Sweet home Alabama .

I am not from the States but daaamn more poooowaa to muricans.

Upon further reading it appears in most countries it is not allowed (to different degrees) but it is not criminalized. I particularly like italian law view of things "punish incest that leads to public scandal". Hahahahahahahaha

 

[Terminator_26F]

In the United States, each state has their own laws, however it's mostly not a legal issue. There's still a social stigma associated with step-siblings dating even where there is no legal enforcement. Not everyone subscribes to that, but it's woven heavily enough into the social consciousness that even those who see no problem with it know they'd be signing up for a lot sideways glances and awkward questions were they to act on it.

In France, apart from all philosophical, religious and ethical considerations, incest in general and between brother and sister in particular is prohibited for essentially biological reasons such as congenital disorders.

 

[The Naughty Captain]

In France, apart from all philosophical, religious and ethical considerations, incest in general and between brother and sister in particular is prohibited for essentially biological reasons such as congenital disorders.

That's completely false.
In France, you can fuck who you want. Your mother, your sister, your grandfather... Who you want. As long as both sides are at least 15 years old and have freely and willingly consented to the act, no one can legally say anything to you.
However, the taboo is still there, and if justice doesn't judge you, society will.

You are forbidden to marry your first-degree relatives. But if they're ok with it, you can fuck them, no problem.

 

[Skylaroo]

While your analysis is correct for the point you make, I believe you misunderstood the banter we were having. To clarify, consider the following quote " A character is a set of qualities that make someone or something different from others. Behavior, on the other hand, refers the way of behaving, the actions or reactions you give to others."

The comments back and forth were about character, not behavior. We do not find Jaye's persona agreeable. She may have internal dialogue that shows she loves her brother but her persona is of a toxic individual. So while we were giving examples of actions Jaye made, does were to illustrate character.

Hope I clarified the point.

I'm not sure I understand the need to separate character and behavior in this case. How could you hate her character if not because of how she behaves? What could be the reason that you consider her being a toxic individual without considering her actions? This doesn't even consider that pretty much all of her actions are reactions to what MC did.

 

[v1900]

I'm not sure I understand the need to separate character and behavior in this case. How could you hate her character if not because of how she behaves? What could be the reason that you consider her being a toxic individual without considering her actions? This doesn't even consider that pretty much all of her actions are reactions to what MC did.

You are correct, we can not separate one from the other, one is the result of the other. Consider now that the sum of behaviors allows us to define the character, so when I say Jaye has a toxic character, I stablish a pattern of that character's behavior. In your original post you argued:

" The answer is simply there are many people who project themselves into the MC, and only want their perfect fantasy to be in the video game. So when they saw Jaye doing something that they don't like, the blame is always on her, not the MC. "

We were actually trying to avoid arguments like yours speaking in terms of pattern of behavior rather than on individual behaviors and the persona that Jaye demonstrates to the MC. Allow me to elaborate, Stone Fox Studios wrote Jaye's character in a surprisingly consistent way that allows us to see her consistent reactions to a wide gamut of situations, for example: The way she reacted to not receiving a call even though she blocked the MC's number.

We were having a banter precisely about how she overreacts (in general) to the MC.

So even if we project ourselves in the character we can agree that all of us (even you Skylaroo) would avoid such a person in real life and that is how we were having fun, arguing stupid hypotheticals.

Hope I made sense.

 

[Soundgfx]

I swear though that if the guy from the helicopter is that piece of shit molestor, I want my MC to drop kick him AND Jaye over the side of the yacht...if she brought him then it`s goodbye and fuck you very much sis.

Nah, I don't think it's the rapist dude; you'd be very stupid to invite your almost rapist on a trip to settle your inheritance or something, I don't think you'd be petty enough to do that.



Or maybe she is lmao

 

[v1900]

Or maybe she is lmao

Shit man I fear she might be. If that is the case I will have to stick MC's dick in crazy just for the lulz. Admittedly crazy is a hot lady too.

I have had my suspicions because of this " they will cooperate (or compete) ".

 

[Terminator_26F]

That's completely false.
In France, you can fuck who you want. Your mother, your sister, your grandfather... Who you want. As long as both sides are at least 15 years old and have freely and willingly consented to the act, no one can legally say anything to you.
However, the taboo is still there, and if justice doesn't judge you, society will.

You are forbidden to marry your first-degree relatives. But if they're ok with it, you can fuck them, no problem.

I should have specified "as part of an established official relationship". If you keep your behavior a secret, you can, of course, as in all countries for that matter, fuck whoever you want (even under duress as long as it is kept secret), including the neighbor's dog and the canary of the concierge. It's so obvious !!

 

[Jack0ace]

Of-course as far as story goes, MC is not blameless at all. But there are pretty thick cushion points for the man.

One. As someone already stated, MC as a kid decided to distance himself from his sister to prevent being bullied was a plus move. And I believe it was a couple days, a week at most. Then their parent intervened, correct?

Two. MC standing up to the rapist-friend. It was a foolhardy thing, but I believe Jay herself admitted afterwards that "it was exactly what she needed from MC". Word-for-word.

Three. He "left" his family. MC was an eighteen-years-old kid with a constantly antagonistic family member. He was also someone who had a big trust-fund who later got an itch to travel the world. It's pretty douche-y the way he did, but it was his choice to do whatever he wanted with his legally-adult life.

Overall, Jaye was left with pretty significant drawbacks as a love-interest. The worst (for me at-least) was when they reunited, the first thing she did to the MC was interrogating why he wasn't at the funeral, and why he didn't contact her. All in-front of the will-overseeing third-party family friend, and her own significant other. She didn't ask how he was all these years, how he was doing about their parent death. No. It's pretty much all about her. That's a big yike if I ever saw one.

I am invested in characters because this game got a fluid story, and interesting mystery behind it. But as far as love-interests go, Mallory's more than a head and shoulders above Jaye.

Sorry, if I got anything wrong. English isn't my first language.

 

[The Naughty Captain]

I should have specified "as part of an established official relationship". If you keep your behavior a secret, you can, of course, as in all countries for that matter, fuck whoever you want (even under duress as long as it is kept secret), including the neighbor's dog and the canary of the concierge. It's so obvious !!

Well, you can go public, it doesn't change anything. As long as both sides are okay with it. If you can handle the social pressure, obviously.

 

[akkurt]

Preview from the Discord Server:
“People think secrets are about lies, or shame. But what secrets are really about is fear.”
― Sonali Dev

​

 

[Soundgfx]

That's completely false.
In France, you can fuck who you want. Your mother, your sister, your grandfather... Who you want. As long as both sides are at least 15 years old and have freely and willingly consented to the act, no one can legally say anything to you.
However, the taboo is still there, and if justice doesn't judge you, society will.

You are forbidden to marry your first-degree relatives. But if they're ok with it, you can fuck them, no problem.

Isn't that everywhere else as well? The only thing keeping you from doing it is that it's taboo and that knocking up your own relatives usually produces funny looking offsprings.

 

[DA22]

Well, you can go public, it doesn't change anything. As long as both sides are okay with it. If you can handle the social pressure, obviously.

Yeah in The Netherlands brothers and sisters are even allowed to entered registered partnerships that legally are pretty close to marriage. Child birth is the only thing that is forbidden. What people also tend to overlook is that two women living together or family members well into their 60's though never overly accepted, somehow people tended to ignore it or give reasonable explanations for it. Even if they knew more might be happening if they were considered part of the community. That is nothing new and was actually something that happened over 100 years ago as I know from the stories of a few Grand Aunts of mine.