VN Ren'Py Completed Chasing Sunsets [v1.01] [Stone Fox Studios]

[Ilhares]

As always with that virtous pirate argument : proof or it's utter crap.

Would you like to see my Steam library? The only thing there that wasn't pirated first is Half-Life 1&2, because I was able to add my original CD keys. Been burned too many times. When I have money, good works get rewarded.

 

[RNasc4444]

Would you like to see my Steam library? The only thing there that wasn't pirated first is Half-Life 1&2, because I was able to add my original CD keys. Been burned too many times. When I have money, good works get rewarded.

Good to know I'm not the only one. That's my MO for every game. My very first AVN was Melody, took me like 3 months to finish but I enjoyed it quite a bit. First thing I did after finishing it was to buy it to support Mr Dots as it was worth my money. Been doing it ever since. I don't think I ever installed any of the AVN's I bought on steam. I just keep them hidden in my library.

 

[DirtyMario]

I don't think I ever installed any of the AVN's I bought on steam. I just keep them hidden in my library.

Naturally. The people I play CS with (many of them RL friends) don't need to know I read AVNs.
That's the same level of not giving a fuck as the people that promote their favourite porn stars on Facebook or Twitter, where friends & family can see it. I'm gone but I'm not quite that far gone yet.

Anyways I hope Stone Fox Studios doesn't waste too much time on convoluted counter measures because that will most certainly do nothing, as the multi billion dollar video game industry can tell you.

 

[bozoplace]

So......

Any talk regarding this game?

thoughts.............................

50 to 500 words here is just banter

 

[Darkdevil66]

 

[Kazanovaromeo]

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Yes , I hope to see this Beauty again soon.

 

[Francis Blast]

Would you like to see my Steam library? The only thing there that wasn't pirated first is Half-Life 1&2, because I was able to add my original CD keys. Been burned too many times. When I have money, good works get rewarded.

Why would it be relevant? No one doubted that some supporters originated from here. And the fact that you paid for Chasing Sunsets doesn't make the idea that 90 % of their support comes from f95 less laughable.

 

[Ilhares]

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Just going to show that everyone has different tastes, I'd need a paper bag for that one. Not pleasing to look at that face at all for me. (her mother's OK, though)

 

[Ilhares]

Why would it be relevant? No one doubted that some supporters originated from here. And the fact that you paid for Chasing Sunsets doesn't make the idea that 90 % of their support comes from f95 less laughable.

It would be relevant because you made it so. You said the 'virtuous pirate' argument was crap and wanted proof. I asked if you wanted to see my library as evidence. There was nothing in your post about any specific percentage of this particular game's fans or patronage.

A lot of people go in for piracy first these days. I absolutely don't purchase everything I've pirated, just the stuff that is worth it due to actually being of interest to me. Hell, I've got Stellaris on both GOG and Steam as a result (admittedly, it was on sale). I used to play the shit out of that one, it was definitely worth the money for my time invested.

My statement was, however, factually incorrect. I do have a few games that were gifted to me, like Cyberpunk and the latest Battlefield, which I had refused to spend my own money on for any reason.

For a game like CS, I'd really rather just walk up to SFS and hand them cash in hand. Screw the taxes and nonsense, just put money right into their hands/pockets. I could skip 40% of the game's content(characters) so far and still be rather satisfied with it, I think. They've done a great job. I'm looking forward to what else they have in store.

 

[Darkdevil66]

Just going to show that everyone has different tastes, I'd need a paper bag for that one. Not pleasing to look at that face at all for me. (her mother's OK, though)

Can't say I'm surprised grandpa.

 

[Ilhares]

Can't say I'm surprised grandpa.

To quote Firefly, "I never married."

I don't mind younger, I just don't find her attractive to look at (facially). Body's nice. Admittedly, part of it may be due to my age - because I consider consequences, something I rarely did when I was a hormonal 16-year old. Knock up the mother? No big deal. She's pretty, and she's already got the family thing going on, she'll probably reconnect with her husband, no big deal.

Knock up the daughter? Great. Now I might have an ugly kid, and an unattractive wife who gets too clingy. Hard pass, friend!
(Jaye, on the other hand, well.. I'm willing to ruin my future for her)

 

[Francis Blast]

It would be relevant because you made it so. You said the 'virtuous pirate' argument was crap and wanted proof. I asked if you wanted to see my library as evidence. There was nothing in your post about any specific percentage of this particular game's fans or patronage.

A lot of people go in for piracy first these days. I absolutely don't purchase everything I've pirated, just the stuff that is worth it due to actually being of interest to me. Hell, I've got Stellaris on both GOG and Steam as a result (admittedly, it was on sale). I used to play the shit out of that one, it was definitely worth the money for my time invested.

My statement was, however, factually incorrect. I do have a few games that were gifted to me, like Cyberpunk and the latest Battlefield, which I had refused to spend my own money on for any reason.

For a game like CS, I'd really rather just walk up to SFS and hand them cash in hand. Screw the taxes and nonsense, just put money right into their hands/pockets. I could skip 40% of the game's content(characters) so far and still be rather satisfied with it, I think. They've done a great job. I'm looking forward to what else they have in store.

I guess this is a misunderstanding.
The virtuous pirate argument applies to the idea that the majority of Stonefox supporters come from this very forum.

I don't care that you did buy the came. As mentioned, it was never denied that some of us indeed paid for it.

I'm a pirate. I paid for Chasing Sunset. Stonefox doesn't owe me anything for that. I'm still a fucking thief. We all are. It's not because something is crap that you have the right to steal it. Nothing you can say will change that.

So, yeah, I wasn't talking about you but about the whole "Devs owe us, we're helping them by stealing their game" argument and this kind of post in particular :

https://f95zone.to/threads/chasing-sunsets-v0-7a-stone-fox-studios.62625/post-9318576

 

[DirtyMario]

Knock up the daughter? Great. Now I might have an ugly kid, and an unattractive wife who gets too clingy. Hard pass, friend!
(Jaye, on the other hand, well.. I'm willing to ruin my future for her)

No matter if mother or daughter, safe to say the ugly genes would come from my side

Didn't go for the daughter either but it's not a superficial thing, I think she's pretty cute. It was kind of a rushed introduction and I don't know her well enough to be sure about her motives, with the whole "nut inside" thing and all.
Cucking her dad is always the preferred option in any case.

 

[Ilhares]

I'm a pirate. I paid for Chasing Sunset. Stonefox doesn't owe me anything for that. I'm still a fucking thief. We all are.

It's not because something is crap that you have the right to steal it. Nothing you can say will change that.

Software/Movie Piracy is not theft.

Nobody has lost something as a result of my piracy (well, okay, a few bytes of bandwidth here and there, but I pay for that anyway). This is a false argument. It's like movie studios claiming they lose billions to piracy. No, they don't. They just didn't earn as much as they wanted to. This is part of the system they use to completely screw the people who made/own the movie (and music, for that matter) out of money, because of "no net profits" and the like, after you account for advertising, distribution, etc.

There are laws that govern against what I do, but if it were theft, they'd hit me for grand larceny, not copyright infrigement. And they do it on the copyright side of things specifically because it is not theft. In a world where replication of everything has virtually zero impact (zero production cost, zero distribution cost), you cannot really claim losses due to 'theft', because it in no way diminishes the original. All those actors and stage hands have already been paid.

Granted, if I don't pay SFS for their game, they would have a diminished income as a result, but I have committed no thievery.

So, yeah, I wasn't talking about you but about the whole "Devs owe us, we're helping them by stealing their game" argument and this kind of post in particular :

https://f95zone.to/threads/chasing-sunsets-v0-7a-stone-fox-studios.62625/post-9318576

I can't argue with you on that - whether I bought something or not, they don't *owe* me anything, beyond what I got when I paid for it. I made that decision based on what was seen, not a nebulous promise of what's to come in the future (which is why I don't do pre-order nonsense).

And one day, hopefully soon, I'll not be living in my car again, and I'll have even more disposable income to pass around to these guys for a bit. I know I certainly feel indebted to our boy RPDL for at least a couple hundred so far, he's really stepped up and filled that NOPY absence that F95 relies so heavily upon.

 

[Tremonia]

Hey, you two, could you discuss this via private messages, please? Or maybe in another thread with this specific topic?

 

[Francis Blast]

Software/Movie Piracy is not theft.

Nobody has lost something as a result of my piracy (well, okay, a few bytes of bandwidth here and there, but I pay for that anyway). This is a false argument. It's like movie studios claiming they lose billions to piracy. No, they don't. They just didn't earn as much as they wanted to. This is part of the system they use to completely screw the people who made/own the movie (and music, for that matter) out of money, because of "no net profits" and the like, after you account for advertising, distribution, etc.

There are laws that govern against what I do, but if it were theft, they'd hit me for grand larceny, not copyright infrigement. And they do it on the copyright side of things specifically because it is not theft. In a world where replication of everything has virtually zero impact (zero production cost, zero distribution cost), you cannot really claim losses due to 'theft', because it in no way diminishes the original. All those actors and stage hands have already been paid.

Granted, if I don't pay SFS for their game, they would have a diminished income as a result, but I have committed no thievery.
I can't argue with you on that - whether I bought something or not, they don't *owe* me anything, beyond what I got when I paid for it. I made that decision based on what was seen, not a nebulous promise of what's to come in the future (which is why I don't do pre-order nonsense).

Let's agree to disagree.
You download and use for free a product that is not free.

You can argue as much as you want, but this isn't right. You have to accept it.
If anyone thinks it's right or that they are justified to do so, they are wrong.

And yes, I'm doing it myself, I'm a piece of shit, and I made my peace with that.

Hey, you two, could you discuss this via private messages, please? Or maybe in another thread with this specific topic?

Not without dinner first, at the very least.
But I'm done. This discussion is pointless and tiresome.

 

[FaceCrap]

Stone Fox Studios Just a heads-up, there's just under 350MB of duplicate images packed... folders Chapter0 and Intro are identical

 

[Elhemeer]

Stone Fox Studios Just a heads-up, there's just under 350MB of duplicate images packed... folders Chapter0 and Intro are identical

You probably have to leave them a note on discord or one of their other venues ... not sure they're monitoring this anymore.

 

[FaceCrap]

You probably have to leave them a note on discord or one of their other venues ... not sure they're monitoring this anymore.

Oh don't you worry, they do... if you'd cared to check, last dev post was Saturday. They may not post anymore, but I'm sure they keep tabs

 

[Elhemeer]

Oh don't you worry, they do... if you'd cared to check, last dev post was Saturday. They may not post anymore, but I'm sure they keep tabs

No ... it was Friday (at least in the US) when they said they were "cutting ties" which was their last post. You may be right, but unless they do respond to another post, you're making assumptions.