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Tremonia

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I want a route where MC can compete with Jaye, get the company alone and don't give anything to Jaye.
You can want this, but looking into the story I'm sure this won't happen. If you don't work with her, the company went to shit and nobody wins anything from it.
 

Drakenite

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You guys ever go back to the front page thread and see the screenshots? I think they're a little outdated and doesn't do this game any justice. Especially the renders from the later chapters are god-tier.

Would love to see updated screenshots to pull in even more Jaye fans support for this awesome game.
 

joejr1

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Jun 9, 2020
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Good game except for the fact you can't have both Mallory and Jaye, it just ends the game. Plus if you're on both routes, you don't get Peanut.
 

alex13_zen

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Sep 30, 2019
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Why is chef Tanaka so disrespectful in the beginning? It's strange because she later confesses she respected your mother very much.

If I respected someone who then died, I certainly wouldn't be rude towards their still-grieving child (who actually lost both parents).

I avoided Tanaka as much as I could on my Jaye-only playthrough and this has led to a game over in the last chapter. It's also bc I threw Christian offboard myself, but it just felt weird asking my sister to beat up a guy.

This really sucks, I either need to start a game from scratch or change variables which I know from experience can potentially lead to crashes later on :(
 

felicemastronzo

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May 17, 2020
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Why is chef Tanaka so disrespectful in the beginning? It's strange because she later confesses she respected your mother very much.

If I respected someone who then died, I certainly wouldn't be rude towards their still-grieving child (who actually lost both parents).

I avoided Tanaka as much as I could on my Jaye-only playthrough and this has led to a game over in the last chapter. It's also bc I threw Christian offboard myself, but it just felt weird asking my sister to beat up a guy.

This really sucks, I either need to start a game from scratch or change variables which I know from experience can potentially lead to crashes later on :(
Because players need reassurance, so at every opportunity the MC must be ridiculed.... The rape van, the jellyfish, the healing pee
 

alex13_zen

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Because players need reassurance, so at every opportunity the MC must be ridiculed.... The rape van, the jellyfish, the healing pee
I don't understand your explanation, players need reassurance for what? (I personally liked the scenes you mentioned, they were all in good fun).

I'm mostly trying to understand the in-game character's motivation.

On a meta level, I know writers can make mistakes and have a character act illogically for various reasons (for plot, for laughs, etc). But I don't want to believe I got a game over because of bad writing, so I was wondering if I missed or misunderstood a scene that would logically explain Tanaka's behavior in-game.
 

ename144

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Sep 20, 2018
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Why is chef Tanaka so disrespectful in the beginning? It's strange because she later confesses she respected your mother very much.

If I respected someone who then died, I certainly wouldn't be rude towards their still-grieving child (who actually lost both parents).

I avoided Tanaka as much as I could on my Jaye-only playthrough and this has led to a game over in the last chapter. It's also bc I threw Christian offboard myself, but it just felt weird asking my sister to beat up a guy.

This really sucks, I either need to start a game from scratch or change variables which I know from experience can potentially lead to crashes later on :(
I don't think Tanaka's initial disrespect is entirely unreasonable. She may have respected the MC's mom, but what she knew of the MC is that he bummed his way around the world on his parent's dime. For a driven, no nonsense woman like Tanaka I'm sure that made a terrible first impression - especially when the MC's first proper interaction with her was to hit on her. Once it becomes clear the MC is capable of applying himself, Tanaka warms to him quickly.

That said, I suspect the real reason Tanaka comes on so strong initially is to give the player a sense of accomplishment when we manage to tame her later. Whether it was a good idea to make that path necessary to complete the game (at least under some circumstances) is a separate question.
 

xCalon

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But I don't want to believe I got a game over because of bad writing, so I was wondering if I missed or misunderstood a scene that would logically explain Tanaka's behavior in-game.
You got a game over because you totally avoid Tanaka, therefore she don't agree to teach defensive techniques to you. In your playthrough in Ch2 your choice was Show Mr. Mendez off the Sunset, and in Ch7 you did not agree to learn defensive techniques from Tanaka. This two variable together cause the Game Over screen.
 
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Nurikabe

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Why is chef Tanaka so disrespectful in the beginning? It's strange because she later confesses she respected your mother very much.

If I respected someone who then died, I certainly wouldn't be rude towards their still-grieving child (who actually lost both parents).

I avoided Tanaka as much as I could on my Jaye-only playthrough and this has led to a game over in the last chapter. It's also bc I threw Christian offboard myself, but it just felt weird asking my sister to beat up a guy.

This really sucks, I either need to start a game from scratch or change variables which I know from experience can potentially lead to crashes later on :(
What is known about the MC is that he ran away, and now he comes back and is given the family jewels. Mallory has the same low opinion of the MC before spending time with him. A pretty boy who disappeared and, now that his parents are dead, has returned to take the wheel — or the money.

It is only after getting to know him that those around him fall in love and know that he is a stand-up guy. Chef Tanaka comes from a culture where respect is earned.
 

felicemastronzo

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May 17, 2020
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I don't understand your explanation, players need reassurance for what? (I personally liked the scenes you mentioned, they were all in good fun).

I'm mostly trying to understand the in-game character's motivation.

On a meta level, I know writers can make mistakes and have a character act illogically for various reasons (for plot, for laughs, etc). But I don't want to believe I got a game over because of bad writing, so I was wondering if I missed or misunderstood a scene that would logically explain Tanaka's behavior in-game.
I am speaking in general, I am not from this game. The MC is usually the most criticised character, but it's not a trivial sexual issue, he's often considered the most stupid, the most selfish, unmanly, unconfident, any flaw can be referred to him. And being the only character we can minimally interact with, I don't think it's a coincidence.

If the MC is somehow downsized, put in its place, it is always well received, with a certain enthusiasm.

In this particular case Tanaka is confronted by her employer, whom she does not know, he may be a vindictive asshole, but she goes hard on him without any problems. Then later it takes very little, almost nothing, for her resistance to collapse and she surrenders herself to him.
Both results were brought home...
 

alex13_zen

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Chef Tanaka comes from a culture where respect is earned.
Japanese culture is by default one of the most polite in the world. A normal Japanese would have called MC 'san', not fuckboy.

As for having to earn respect: I've worked with some Japanese people and my understanding is that in a way it's easier, not harder to earn respect. E.g. people are more hesitant (than in the West) to contradict their bosses simply because of their higher position and age, not necessarily because of their competence.
 

Nurikabe

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Japanese culture is by default one of the most polite in the world. A normal Japanese would have called MC 'san', not fuckboy.

As for having to earn respect: I've worked with some Japanese people and my understanding is that in a way it's easier, not harder to earn respect. E.g. people are more hesitant (than in the West) to contradict their bosses simply because of their higher position and age, not necessarily because of their competence.
I meant as a Chef. :ROFLMAO:
Additional info: Probably true regarding the Japanese culture where the name carries a lot of weight. But in this case, look at how she treated him when she was teaching him to cook. Like he was worthless (and he was for comedic purposes). On the gym floor, useless until he proved otherwise. On the deck of the boat when she met him. Just a pretty rich boy.
 
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