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You should be able to open the game files and find the audio files; it might be named the name of the sound/sound effect. Could also try one of those music naming services where you play it and it identifies it.
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TonyMurray
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Well that's the point though, it's someone else's work, which is now, without the knowledge or permission of the author, part of the AI's catalogue for learning and regurgitating. There's a reason gen AI gets called "plagiarism machines".Everything fed into AI is someone else's work. EVERYTHING.
All he did was make a guide for himself - he isn't trying to use someone else's words to write a master's thesis or PhD dissertation, the way several former Ivy League Presidents and Administrators did.
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15 seconds after I had it make that guide (which, again, was just to see how good it was as sorting through 54,000 lines of Renpy code), it already forget the entire thing and the conversation behind it.
What's typed into AI as a query is stored temporarily in order to generate a response, then forgotten by the AI when the discussion is done. Think of it like short term memory vs. long term memory. If you ask it the characteristics of a golden retriever, AI will remember that you're interested in golden retrievers (short term), but the actual information about them (fur color, average lifespan, etc) will come from what the model was trained on before ever talking to you, such as a public domain textbook on dogs (longterm memory). When you stop talking, it will forget you and that you asked about golden retrievers. But it will always remember the textbook it was trained on years ago. That textbook was taught to the AI by its programmers, not by users.
That's a simplified explanation. There are confusing aspects to this, like how mainstream AIs can remember your conversations across sessions, or how your conversations can be used for fine-tuning. But none of that goes into the AI's long-term memory. It's either stored locally or in your account history (same as your billing information, for example) and no one else will ever be able to summon it through the AI. It's just smoke and mirrors to make it seem like it remembers. When in reality, it has to pull that information from your account every time you start talking to it.
AI is amazing because of its ability to put pieces together. Not because of its memory. Knowing how its memory works makes it much less magical.
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All artists derive from the works of others - AI is a tool, like a brush. Or do yo believe there's anything being put into pixels, on paper, panel, wall, ceiling or canvas today that isn't derivative and influenced by what others have done throughout history?
If you don't put people's work into a referenceable storage medium, how do you refer to it in the future? Would you rather it all be lost so that it can't be used by others to derive insights and make works long after the "original" author/artist is gone?
All works are resources; AI is a tool. Just cite you work.
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The two things you quote there are not the same thing at all. People learn from other works by using the same techniques, or simply by taking inspiration and creating something of their own based on what they have seen. AI doesn't do this. AI isn't actually intelligent in that sense, it just creates the illusion of intelligence. It takes apart what it has been "trained" on, and reconstitutes it based on prompts entered by the user. Comparing it to derivations and influence throughout centuries of human art is not even comparing apples to oranges, it's more like comparing Apple iPhones to oranges. They're not even close.
Obviously, this will all get deleted at some point because it is off topic though, so I'm not going to get drawn into silly arguments that genAI is good.
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The user putting in the prompts is just like a painter, prompting him or herself to choose the topic, oil, acrylic, watercolor, paper, panel, canvas, style of brush stroke, etc. - I know many actual artists and have seen them work, own their works and appreciate their works. I'm not a huge fan of what I've seen from AI, but it's another method and tool for creating - the mind of the one typing or speaking the prompts is simply telling a program to do what his or her mind would otherwise tell their hand to do with a brush. The vision comes from the mind of the artist - if the AI prompt doesn't get the desired result, prompts get tweaked; if what is on the canvass isn't the desired result, depending on the medium, paint may get scraped down to the gesso or it may simply be painted over - a single section or the whole piece.
Open your mind - it seems very closed off because you simply don't like the tool.
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Yeah TonyMurray "Open your mind" which sounds like the opening to every dystopian movie ever made.
Open your mind and let some AI do your thinking for you. Looking at the AI's "guide" I am not impressed, far better ones are available made by real people.
Now ask it to make sense of the fact that you can only get a Jaye and Mallory polyamorous ending if you completely reject Mallory after sleeping with her and fully commit to Jaye, you will likely see it malfunction. "Does not compute....."
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I asked AI to work out the Poly path with Jaye & Mallory.Yeah TonyMurray "Open your mind" which sounds like the opening to every dystopian movie ever made.
Open your mind and let some AI do your thinking for you. Looking at the AI's "guide" I am not impressed, far better ones are available made by real people.
Now ask it to make sense of the fact that you can only get a Jaye and Mallory polyamorous ending if you completely reject Mallory after sleeping with her and fully commit to Jaye, you will likely see it malfunction. "Does not compute....."
Okay, I'm so confused. In the game, it was implied that Jaye had her first time with Christin. She even said, after sleeping with the MC, that she didn’t save herself for him and had dated a lot of guys. But she also mentioned that she didn’t throw herself at them, she made them work for it and merely a replacement.
Also, why didn't she attend his most important game and instead had sex with Christin? It feels like Jaye lost interest on MC and decided to change or am I getting this wrong?
But now I’m seeing comments saying she never had sex with anyone except the MC? So which is it? Did I make different choices?
Also, why didn't she attend his most important game and instead had sex with Christin? It feels like Jaye lost interest on MC and decided to change or am I getting this wrong?
But now I’m seeing comments saying she never had sex with anyone except the MC? So which is it? Did I make different choices?
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She never had sex with Christian or anyone. He tried to force her but failed. She never slept with anyone she tells the MC she didn't have time between work and school.
Then what was the thumping sound in the early chapters? And why did she say she didn't save herself for MC after sex with him? I'm on Chapter 5 and it was so confusing to me. Also can you also answer why she didn't show up to the game and instead was spending her time with Christin?
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They were fighting. Christian was having a problem with his dad if I remember correctly Christian was gay.they went there for private conversation Christian tried to get some but she wasn't having it that's why her clothes were torn. When MC reads her text before fighting Christian it reveals what happened.
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Yep, Christian's dad kicked him out, and he called Jaye needing someone to talk to and a safe place to do it. He thought if he could have sex with Jaye he could prove his dad wrong, so he tried to force himself on her.
Christian was asexual though, not gay, it's just that his dad didn't know the difference and used to beat Christian for being gay.
Ah, that makes sense. I’m not sure if he was gay, but I think they used the word “asexual” (someone please fact-check this). Still, I don’t get why she felt the need to reiterate that she didn’t save herself for him tho. Maybe I just read too much into it, like it was implying it wasn’t her first time. Some comments here also mentioned that it changes depending on the choices you make, is that true?
Tbh, whether or not she had past relationships doesn’t really matter, I just thought it felt like a weird plot hole or something.
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There are two different branches depending on decisions you made in the first chapter. Jaye may or may not have chosen to move on during college, depending on those decisions, but she didn't sleep with Christian in either. That guy has problems that you have not had disclosed to you as yet. She saw Christian as a friend, and he saw her as an opportunity, but it was never about sex really. You will find out more about this later in the VN.
I see, I see. But how can we actually tell if she moved on or not? Does it even have any real consequences later in the game?