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I don't get these finished but not actually finished games... and it's getting more frequent. Between 2 worlds did it too, as well as price of power. Just fucking finish it properly the first time.
Oh god, don't even go down that rabbit hole. Easier just to say that the endings are still to come. :ROFLMAO:
 
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We deserve a Jaye + Mallory + Bianca fuckfest but devs surely won't deliver.
Did they even bother to flesh out the relationship between Bianca and Jaye? They should have known each other as long as MC + Bianca knew each other, yet they barely interact. Oh well.
 

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We deserve a Jaye + Mallory + Bianca fuckfest but devs surely won't deliver.
Did they even bother to flesh out the relationship between Bianca and Jaye? They should have known each other as long as MC + Bianca knew each other, yet they barely interact. Oh well.
Bro, they could't even bother to flesh out the Jaye Mallory throuple and make it make more sense with choices and such, and you expect that these devs can flesh out a different relationship with Bianca and Jaye.
 

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Update from Stoya on their Discord:
  1. Just a quick progress update: Feels like we take two steps forward, and three steps back. Shades of DPC’s hell with the DIK helmet in BADIK. Without offering any detailed spoilers, the challenge has been that there are appearance differences between characters in different world states, so many scenes require multiple images of the same character that reflect those realities. It seems like we validate one path and find another that has an art or continuity gap that needs to be addressed. In some cases it requires new art, but in most it just requires spot renders or pathing branches.
    In any case, I’d hoped to have the beta testers debugging by yesterday, and at this point it looks like it will probably be tomorrow.
    I’ll make a Patreon/SS update to that effect when I get home from work today. We’re close…
    We’re very anxious to get this out to the fans, and Kent even has his fingers in the code while I’m at my day job to try to bring in the timeline.

It takes time to fully complete this game by removing that sense of dissatisfaction left by the non-ending ending. Surely with the epilogues the 3-way story with Amanda and Mallory, unfortunately left completely hanging for plot needs soon after being so organically included, will be fully developed and also the second trouple, available only for those who did not want it, what generosity, will be fully developed and not left to a simple sex scene. Not to mention that cosmos of secondary girls all more or less expected if not by a happy epilogue , at least by a clarification/last dance (the taxi driver/bartender I hope did not hold her breath) .

But most of all what we are all waiting for is some new revelation about incest, not incest, but technically incest that however is not but could be
 
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I don't get these "finished" but not actually finished games... and it's getting more frequent. Between 2 worlds did it too, as well as price of power. Just fucking finish it properly the first time.
The completed tag was mistakenly added. It was clearly not finished.
 

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Bro, they could't even bother to flesh out the Jaye Mallory throuple and make it make more sense with choices and such, and you expect that these devs can flesh out a different relationship with Bianca and Jaye.
For me the biggest issue wasn't even it not making sense, even though it didn't, especially how you get there.
It was more that it felt shit and pointless, when it should have felt awesome.
 

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Unlikely and will stay as a cliffhanger.

Making $3k-$7k a month probably is too much of a risk for Patreon to nuke them from orbit.
They don't seem to be that concerned. They could have put the Jaye and mc issue behind them, but they deliberately let it be understood that it is not certain that they are not half- siblings, while with Mallory the issue is more philosophical but that she is a clone of Sara is a fact, it saves from incest only that they do not look alike at all.

Probably for patreon it is not true incest (they are not family, they are only genetically so) , or they have received few reports.

Sometimes even being foster siblings was enough, is that evidently true.
 

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They don't seem to be that concerned. They could have put the Jaye and mc issue behind them, but they deliberately let it be understood that it is not certain that they are not half- siblings, while with Mallory the issue is more philosophical but that she is a clone of Sara is a fact, it saves from incest only that they do not look alike at all.

Probably for patreon it is not true incest (they are not family, they are only genetically so) , or they have received few reports.

Sometimes even being foster siblings was enough, is that evidently true.
I'm just saying I think that is why they left it like that, if you don't know for sure, then they can't really say one way or another and they are following Patreon's TOS.

In the end I don't think it matters a whole lot, the player can choose to be related or not.

I'm ready to see the new game anyway, time for some "Tara" time. The new game was supposed to release a week or so after this was finished, but I don't have any hopes that will happen, don't even think a Steam page is live for it.
 

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The completed tag was mistakenly added. It was clearly not finished.
So as I understand this website here, there are two types of "completed"
There is
Completet [version number X.Y.Z]
and
Completed [Final]

The former means, from what I've experienced, that the main story with the main characters has reached a certain conclusion, but not necessarily every side character or side quest. This is often enough for a player who has no interest in other side quests anyway.

Final, on the other hand, is the ultimate ending and no further updates or changes.

I think this should be enforced more concisely and FInal should be a separate TAG. It would alleviate a lot of user dissent. Over time, users would understand when a game is “finished” and when it is not.

It would also simplify the search if you could search specifically for games with "Final", i.e. games that are 100% finished and you know that nothing new is coming.

As far as this game is concerned, I think I remember reaching a satisfactory end. Sure, a glimpse into the future of the characters would have been nice, but the bottom line is that the story was over. No idea how certain other relationships were left unfinished. But I can also sympathize when things are left open.
 

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So as I understand this website here, there are two types of "completed"
There is
Completet [version number X.Y.Z]
and
Completed [Final]

The former means, from what I've experienced, that the main story with the main characters has reached a certain conclusion, but not necessarily every side character or side quest. This is often enough for a player who has no interest in other side quests anyway.

Final, on the other hand, is the ultimate ending and no further updates or changes.

I think this should be enforced more concisely and FInal should be a separate TAG. It would alleviate a lot of user dissent. Over time, users would understand when a game is “finished” and when it is not.

It would also simplify the search if you could search specifically for games with "Final", i.e. games that are 100% finished and you know that nothing new is coming.

As far as this game is concerned, I think I remember reaching a satisfactory end. Sure, a glimpse into the future of the characters would have been nice, but the bottom line is that the story was over. No idea how certain other relationships were left unfinished. But I can also sympathize when things are left open.
There was no 'satisfactory end' on any of the paths I played, either to the main story or the relationships.
 

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There was no 'satisfactory end' on any of the paths I played, either to the main story or the relationships.
Everyone has a different experience when playing.
Often linked to the things you experience in your own life, which you then link to the things in the game.
Nobody can empathize with these feelings.

Was it not enough for you? Ok! I'm sorry for you.
But I've already said it all in the review I wrote back then.
I was satisfied. No matter what you say will change that. :)

And of course you can make an ending even better.
But remember not even BioWare managed a proper ending for Dragon Age. :(
So, do I expect more from a handful of people working on this game here?
When even big studios can't get it right?
No. :coffee:

Missing endings can also be completed with your imagination. Yeah, i know, not helpful.
But this has helped me with many other games, to see things in a relaxed way, and I don't worry about it anymore.
The time and money factor is also often forgotten.
After 12 months, I no longer expect an ending (which won't change anything anyway), but rather a new game. :)
 

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After 12 months, I no longer expect an ending (which won't change anything anyway), but rather a new game. :)
They always said there was endings coming even before they released the last update. It wasn't disappointing, it was a good release, it was satisfying, but it wasn't a satisfying end, because it was never meant to be the conclusion. That's why they didn't tie the story/relationships up, that's what the next release is for.

It was part of the overall plan/outline that the storylines would conclude in this coming update. I often use imagination to conclude stories without endings, but that wasn't necessary here, as they were promised long ago.

Sure, it's taken them a lot longer than they planned, but it's hitting beta testers imminently, and then not too long till release. And I'm excited to see what they have in store for all the characters. :love:
 

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They don't seem to be that concerned. They could have put the Jaye and mc issue behind them, but they deliberately let it be understood that it is not certain that they are not half- siblings, while with Mallory the issue is more philosophical but that she is a clone of Sara is a fact, it saves from incest only that they do not look alike at all.

Probably for patreon it is not true incest (they are not family, they are only genetically so) , or they have received few reports.

Sometimes even being foster siblings was enough, is that evidently true.
I'm confused where was it ever stated being half siblings? The parents got together after they were born and were already grown up. What am I missing?
 
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I'm confused where was it ever stated being half siblings? The parents got together after they were born and were already grown up. What am I missing?
If I'm remembering it rightly, and spoilers just for those who need it, Jaye's parents tried and couldn't have a baby, they were part of the Pregnia trial and that's how Jaye was conceived. Then it was unveiled that Pregnia wasn't effective, and Sarah was trying to expose that, so they thought Jaye was a miracle - a natural conception after so long trying. Then, it was revealed that the person running the Pregnia trial, who was obsessed with Sarah, substituted eggs from donors, and it was believed he used Sarah's eggs for this. So the suggestion is that Jaye was born from one of Sarah's eggs, which, if true, would make them half-siblings (although in a bit of a messy way).
 

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I'm confused where was it ever stated being half siblings? The parents got together after they were born and were already grown up. What am I missing?
It's explained in detail in this scene here. Short answer - one of Sarah's eggs may have been used to birth Jaye.

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If I'm remembering it rightly, and spoilers just for those who need it, Jaye's parents tried and couldn't have a baby, they were part of the Pregnia trial and that's how Jaye was conceived. Then it was unveiled that Pregnia wasn't effective, and Sarah was trying to expose that, so they thought Jaye was a miracle - a natural conception after so long trying. Then, it was revealed that the person running the Pregnia trial, who was obsessed with Sarah, substituted eggs from donors, and it was believed he used Sarah's eggs for this. So the suggestion is that Jaye was born from one of Sarah's eggs, which, if true, would make them half-siblings (although in a bit of a messy way).
But how would the crazy dude get sarah's eggs? Tho this seems so far fetch it'll be so easy for them to test jaye with your dnd to check. Am I the only one that finds them adding this info is complete pointless if they never check? It's as far as mentioning your parents could be alive and never once checking if they are.

Honestly I'll just go with he swapped with random eggs because that's harder to identify, plus making the project success would be important no matter what, while he was doing his cloning.
 
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