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SpyderArachnid

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well grandpa *vamire* wouldnt exactly look like an old man now would he? Thats pure theory on my part but given the bottle he had awakened out vampiric nature..... not a stretch as for 'ghosting' the girl we're forced to fuck says she'll be arriving soon with her friends and for turning the phone off? Important shit shes doing to prep for whatever she was planning for the MC with her subbies/friends/acolytes/whatever. Again theory atm but Im guessing some kinda preparation ritual that needs focus

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as far as the GFs whole 'mistress' schtick..... does no one here have any imagination? How about Master/student relationship eh? which for women would be what now!????? Oh yeah Mistress..... beyond that if shes another vampire family they could be thralls/ghouls/etc... This doesnt have to be some BDSM level shit here people(even if I hope she is, and is prepping a little harem for us)
You're looking at it from a player's perspective. As a player, yeah, we know it is all vampire shit blah blah blah. The guy is probably her vampire grandfather and all that. Yeah, as a player, all of this makes sense.

I was talking more from the MC's perspective. How he sees things. He doesn't know about vampires and all that stuff.
 

SpasmJack

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idk if it happened only to me bc my pc is older but scene outside house before party was so laggy entire game strugled to even open menu but once inside it was ok no problems from there on
I was trying to PM you with an offer for a free potato upgrade (read: @ transportation costs), but am not allowed. If interested, PM me to see if the distance is doable.
 
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You're looking at it from a player's perspective. As a player, yeah, we know it is all vampire shit blah blah blah. The guy is probably her vampire grandfather and all that. Yeah, as a player, all of this makes sense.

I was talking more from the MC's perspective. How he sees things. He doesn't know about vampires and all that stuff.
personally in the protag's position there I would be worried but 99% ignoring it because John is a proven fuckwit, the mistress thing, yeah Id think kinky sex shit but hey, I wouldnt be losing my shit over that either. Even as a kid in the 18-22yr range I wasnt so insecure in my masculinity or relationships to listen to asshole bullies or immediately jump to worst case scenarios
 
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personally in the protag's position there I would be worried but 99% ignoring it because John is a proven fuckwit, the mistress thing, yeah Id think kinky sex shit but hey, I wouldnt be losing my shit over that either. Even as a kid in the 18-22yr range I wasnt so insecure in my masculinity or relationships to listen it asshole bullies or immediately jump to worst case scenarios
I think it is all just the timing of everything adding up all at once.

Your girlfriend drugs you just before the party, John tells you she is cheating on you, and now she isn't answering your calls and hasn't shown up to the party. MC's head is twisted up from the "drug" and drinking, so yeah, he probably is thinking worst case scenario. Like, "did she drug me so she could cheat on me, thinking I'd be too out of it or passed out to notice?". He's in his own head with all this stuff going on. Even the message he leaves after she doesn't answer his calls has him freaking out over this other guy she is seeing. So, you know it is on his mind.

Yeah, us as a player, wouldn't be freaking out over what John said. But we are not the MC. The MC is a different person who is freaking out. He is not us.
 

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I think it is all just the timing of everything adding up all at once.

Your girlfriend drugs you just before the party, John tells you she is cheating on you, and now she isn't answering your calls and hasn't shown up to the party. MC's head is twisted up from the "drug" and drinking, so yeah, he probably is thinking worst case scenario. Like, "did she drug me so she could cheat on me, thinking I'd be too out of it or passed out to notice?". He's in his own head with all this stuff going on. Even the message he leaves after she doesn't answer his calls has him freaking out over this other guy she is seeing. So, you know it is on his mind.

Yeah, us as a player, wouldn't be freaking out over what John said. But we are not the MC. The MC is a different person who is freaking out. He is not us.
I suppose its gonna have to boil down to differences in peoples reactions, like I said in his shoes Id be worried, more freaked about this blonde bitch than my GF but as the flurry of snowflakes in this thread show, some people are really REALLY insecure and dimwitted
 

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I think it is all just the timing of everything adding up all at once.

Your girlfriend drugs you just before the party, John tells you she is cheating on you, and now she isn't answering your calls and hasn't shown up to the party. MC's head is twisted up from the "drug" and drinking, so yeah, he probably is thinking worst case scenario. Like, "did she drug me so she could cheat on me, thinking I'd be too out of it or passed out to notice?". He's in his own head with all this stuff going on. Even the message he leaves after she doesn't answer his calls has him freaking out over this other guy she is seeing. So, you know it is on his mind.

Yeah, us as a player, wouldn't be freaking out over what John said. But we are not the MC. The MC is a different person who is freaking out. He is not us.
Yeah, it's difficult putting yourself exactly in the character's shoes, as we have more insight and experience, etc. For me though, I wouldn't be thinking "she's promised me something special tonight, I overheard something intriguing when she was talking with her girlfriends, maybe my special surprise is her getting me out of the way so she can fuck someone else - which she can do literally any time, if that's what she's doing, it doesn't have to be elsewhere while her friend's housewarming party is going on..."
 

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In my opinion, the main misunderstanding is that Dev devoted too much attention to the story progression and at the same time gave too little information about the people surrounding MC. For the first release, I think it was worth putting acquaintance with people first so that the player could understand who is a friend and who is an enemy, who should be trusted and who should not, and already in the second update move the story forward with GF and with the ritual and with the party. Because at the moment, as a player, we know little about anyone.
 

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Hi everyone.

just wanted to thank you all for all the feedback both critical and positive, it really does help.

I also wanted to take a moment to clear up a few concerns that have come up regarding some of the story elements:

1. The scene with Clair
The forced sex with Clair is a one-time event. It was a necessary moment to establish the early foundations for both the central plotline and a critical subplot that will become much more relevant later on as the story unfolds. It’s not something that will be repeated. future sex scenes will provide a rejection option.

2. Monica and the “cheating”
To be clear: there is no NTR in the traditional sense, meaning none of your love interests are taken from you or choose to betray you for someone else. Any moments that seem like NTR (such as what happens in the initial release) are purely for narrative tension. As the player, you can trust that your LIs remain loyal, (unless otherwise directed by you). It’s the MC who doesn’t have all the facts, and part of the story’s emotional drive for the MC comes from his limited understanding of the situation at the time.

For example, imagine one of your LIs is drunk at a club, and another character tries to make a move on her and she being drunk jokingly flirts back. You, as the player, know she would never actually betray you, but the MC doesn’t have that same certainty. From his perspective, it feels like a genuine threat, and he’s forced to step up, either to defend her or compete for her attention.

Scenarios like this are designed to trigger key moments of emotional tension or rivalry between characters. They're not about betrayal, they will be used to spark conflict and kick off new storylines or expand existing ones.

While this theme won’t play a major role in the overall story, it may pop up occasionally. So in the interest of transparency I think it’s important to give a heads-up to anyone who might be sensitive to that kind of content.

3. What really happened
The full context surrounding Monica, MCs family heritage and the circumstances with Clair will be revealed in the next update. which is scheduled to be completed in the next 3 months.

Hope that clears things up. Looking forward to sharing more soon!
Ok, now, I have Important questions:
Will there be content and a harem ending, yes or not?
And is the content forced or can it be avoided? By this I mean some fetishes or labels that sometimes appear in the game that aren't to everyone's liking, such as LESBIAN, FEMDOM, etc.
 

kktcross

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I was trying to PM you with an offer for a free potato upgrade (read: @ transportation costs), but am not allowed. If interested, PM me to see if the distance is doable.
thats kind of you thanks for offer but its not realy needed i have two separate PCs this old one i use just for playing games from this site since there are risk of downloading something malicious while modding etc. while its old but is still working and good enough to play most games (also for twitter/x idk why i am paranoid of loggin in to that site on my everyday pc lol) thanks again i appreciate it :giggle:
 

SpasmJack

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thats kind of you thanks for offer but its not realy needed i have two separate PCs this old one i use just for playing games from this site since there are risk of downloading something malicious while modding etc. while its old but is still working and good enough to play most games (also for twitter/x idk why i am paranoid of loggin in to that site on my everyday pc lol) thanks again i appreciate it :giggle:
No prob. I'd rather give away my old game pc than let it collect dust. It still is a trusted workhorse that never let me down for over a decade. The SoC/CPU (FX8350 on AM3+) still scores median today acc. cpubench.
Here is the kicker: It even runs Crysis, I'm not shitting you. The GPU is no more than 5y old, used for FHD gaming. If I can make someone happy with it, I will.

If anyone here knows, pref a young and poor gamer, <500km Amsterdam, in need, throw me message. I'll clean, rebuild (upgrade what i can, with parts i have) and install it operational with Win10pro on SSD. Got gbit LAN, Bluetooth 5.1, Wifi ac, so still more than ok today. To be sent DHL rembours to a parcelshop nearby, so you estimate the cost.

I run my renpy apps from a virtually walled drive with all data nearby. No web communication nor data writing allowed outside that drive. Minimal OS service. No user access. Almost a sandbox, but it also isn't.

Apology off-topic.

For me Kartoba gave very good entertainment value. Reviewed 4/5 not perfect, but definitely one of the better new releases in the last months. Getting stuck on the cheating would be a waste. (we don't even know if it actually is cheating, since we haven't heard the GF's opinion) If in doubt, I recommend to give it a spin.
 

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Incest and graphics are a plus, but unfortunate I like grounded stories, so I have zero interest in supernatural.

Good luck with your project SinisterSlick.
 

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idk if it happened only to me bc my pc is older but scene outside house before party was so laggy entire game strugled to even open menu but once inside it was ok no problems from there on
It can/should work properly on potato. There are some issues with how images (scenes) are displayed. (This isn't the 1st & won't be the last time a RP dev goes about it the wrong way.) I pointed out the issue to dev. Dev could release a fix in form of a patch (just the fixed .rpy), or I could create one myself. I don't think it's necessary do a new (full) bugfixed release for this issue alone. upd: working on it almost done
 
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A 0.01 version to start with. Realistic expectations.
I hope it'll turn out well, but then I wish all developers well in the hope something amazing comes out of it.
 

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Improvement 'n' Tweaks Patch for v0.01 (Prologue Pt. 1) / patch version 2.2.beta (2025-07-22)

Update for Prologue Pt. 2 soon
This will include restoration of the relationship configuration as was featured in Prologue Pt.1

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Fixes performance issues. Game should run pretty good now throughout on potato machines.
While I was at it, made some other improvements / added + tweaked some stuff:

Features
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Changelog (read before updating)
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Installation (see Note)
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Note: It's unclear whether I'll keep updating this (or how swiftly for that matter) when an update to the game arrives. Hopefully dev picks up some things themselves, so there may be no need anymore. We'll see. (And of course: if you like this or the game, please consider supporting the dev.)

Note: although it looks good to me, I'm still regarding this as beta. Lemme know if there are issues / how it's working for you.

Attachments: 1st: previous version (v2), 2nd: current version (v2.2), 3rd: additional
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