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RandomGuy99

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Because it's not just a porn game. It has story and characters and choices. That's what makes a good avn special to me, it's the only medium I know where hardcore xxx content can merge successfully with good story and give you some control/choices that would normally be reserved for non-porn mediums.

When you have that combination, people are going to end up debating morality and character choices. It's inevitable.
If you dont like those scenes just skip it. If you really hate this xxx theme you can skip the game as is not for you. Some people enjoy those theme and is made to cater for those group. The entire premise of the game story is based on super natural and the pills that is imbued with it. Pretty much hinted the drugs is created by the acolytes/demons. Lilian's scene is not drug or prostitute. Having drunk sex is as vanilla you can get. The game have the prostitution tag, so it's planned since the start.

Everybody have their own kinks man. Just move on
 

Juerhullycin

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If you dont like those scenes just skip it. If you really hate this xxx theme you can skip the game as is not for you. Some people enjoy those theme and is made to cater for those group. The entire premise of the game story is based on super natural and the pills that is imbued with it. Pretty much hinted the drugs is created by the acolytes/demons. Lilian's scene is not drug or prostitute. Having drunk sex is as vanilla you can get. The game have the prostitution tag, so it's planned since the start.

Everybody have their own kinks man. Just move on
you do know that you not answered to anything he said in his post, yeah?

Randomly unloading on people seems weird, maybe cut back on the porn?
 

AnonW123

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If you dont like those scenes just skip it. If you really hate this xxx theme you can skip the game as is not for you. Some people enjoy those theme and is made to cater for those group. The entire premise of the game story is based on super natural and the pills that is imbued with it. Pretty much hinted the drugs is created by the acolytes/demons. Lilian's scene is not drug or prostitute. Having drunk sex is as vanilla you can get. The game have the prostitution tag, so it's planned since the start.

Everybody have their own kinks man. Just move on
Good for you if you enjoy it, I don't.

It's not your decision whether I move on or not. You can move on if you like. It's a discussion forum. if you don't like contrary opinions then you don't have to be here either!

I haven't seen anything from the Dev (if you have then you can share it) saying that all sex would be exclusively as a result of prostitution or drugs. The game is about demons and Armageddon. I never said that Lilian's scene is drugs or prostitution, it's is alcohol. Drunk sex can be considered rape. That's well known and is not vanilla

Not everyone is just going to kiss the dev's ass. Get used to it.
 

YogSothoth1982

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I like this game but I'm wary as to the trend with the sexual content so far.

Story is captivating with good characters and kickass animations for combat and sex.

However, the sex scenes tend to fall into one of two categories: prostitution or sex-offender registry.

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The trend is spoiling what is otherwise an incredible game with a lot of potential. I'm not suggesting that the content needs to be pure vanilla, but I'd like to be able to bang Lis without money, alcohol or drugs being the root cause.
I hope all those scenes are like the ones with the prostitutes, i.e. optional. If I can't avoid at least the rape and the MC being a male prostitute, then I'm not interested in the game.
 
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AnonW123

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I hope all those scenes are like the ones with the prostitutes, i.e. optional. If I can't avoid at least the rape and the MC being a male prostitute, then I'm not interested in the game.
To be clear (and fair) they are all optional and this is my opinion and perspective. With respect to the drunk sex scene, the MC wonders if he took advantage of her and in a conversation the next day she basically confirms that she wanted it and he asks her if he did something wrong and she says no. So while it's problematic for me (she was so drunk she couldn't walk and passed out twice before) it wouldn't count as rape in the context.

Re the MC whore scene he gets a generous tip afterwards (clearly because of the sex) but he wanted to do it and it's a choice.

 
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Sabirow

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I don't quite understand why my comment was met with sarcasm regarding the permissions from Illusion. I was expressing concern about releasing the update due to the number of unfinished bugs. On top of that, I'm still figuring out how this forum works, even though I've been registered here for over a year, I don't visit often.

About Lillian's memories.
Don't worry, you'll still have the chance to explore an optional route with Lillian that will shed light on her past. Everything in its time.

Why May and not Chloe?
May, as a character, is much closer to the MC. If you were in his shoes, who would you choose to take with you? Someone whose name you just learned today, or someone who has been by your side your entire life?
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Dude makes a Harem game and has no bloody clue what harem fans want, thats on him.

Same as the as the free fall of the Jaguar stock price is on Jaguar for making that one shitty TV ad. They also didnt know who their customers are.
The comparison, frankly, is weird. Jaguar lost its audience because they traded their established image of successful men driving their cars for an unexpected ad with Teletubbies. But how does that relate? You had the chance to bond with one LI, not all of them at once, and that became the reason for such a conclusion?

Regarding other issues mentioned.
I'll take them into consideration. Some aspects of the game, especially the text content from earlier versions prior to v0.3, will be improved. Nothing new, just tweaking the structure and wording to make everything flow better.

Constructive criticism offered respectfully is far more valuable than dismissive comments. Please be courteous, it makes a difference. Thank you all for your feedback!
 

majw

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In the latest public release, the settings menu won’t open and shows an error. What could be causing this? (This issue is preventing me from changing the language.)
 

dreamgoat

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Good for you if you enjoy it, I don't.

It's not your decision whether I move on or not. You can move on if you like. It's a discussion forum. if you don't like contrary opinions then you don't have to be here either!

I haven't seen anything from the Dev (if you have then you can share it) saying that all sex would be exclusively as a result of prostitution or drugs. The game is about demons and Armageddon. I never said that Lilian's scene is drugs or prostitution, it's is alcohol. Drunk sex can be considered rape. That's well known and is not vanilla

Not everyone is just going to kiss the dev's ass. Get used to it.
If it's that concerning than go to his or her Patreon and contact him or her.
 

Juerhullycin

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The comparison, frankly, is weird. Jaguar lost its audience because they traded their established image of successful men driving their cars for an unexpected ad with Teletubbies. But how does that relate? You had the chance to bond with one LI, not all of them at once, and that became the reason for such a conclusion?
No but that you think that shows what i meant. That all encounters in game are drug related, with prostitutes or could be classified as rape, was the reason for my conclusion. Your game did nothing to endear me with it. Then are there the weird story choices yes you explained them "here", but i still dont buy them. Taking his not sister with him is even after the explanation stupid as fuck. and so is his trusting the teacher without any indication why he should do that. Nor does his desire to risk his much needed job any sense. Nothing of it was telegraphed in a meaningful way. If you want the story to go that way, fine, but explain it to us in a manner that makes sense and not like the MC pulls his reasons for any action out of thin air every five minutes.
 

majw

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In the latest public release, the settings menu won’t open and shows an error. What could be causing this? (This issue is preventing me from changing the language.)
 

Krytax123

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Good for you if you enjoy it, I don't.

It's not your decision whether I move on or not. You can move on if you like. It's a discussion forum. if you don't like contrary opinions then you don't have to be here either!

I haven't seen anything from the Dev (if you have then you can share it) saying that all sex would be exclusively as a result of prostitution or drugs. The game is about demons and Armageddon. I never said that Lilian's scene is drugs or prostitution, it's is alcohol. Drunk sex can be considered rape. That's well known and is not vanilla

Not everyone is just going to kiss the dev's ass. Get used to it.
Reading comments like these makes me happy to be not young nowadays lol

Drunk sex was kinda the usual experience in my youth from boys and girls, it was a conscious decision to drink to lower your own inhibitions from both genders

Really weird for me to bring a scene like the one with lilian to be even close to rape, they both were drunk and she initiated it. Couldnt you say lilian raped the mc in this case too? (she did hold him there and initiated it)

Imo its just dumb and overdramatizing everything nowadays, and it downplays real rape.
 
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dolfe67

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Reading comments like these makes me happy to be not young nowadays lol

Drunk sex was kinda the usual experience in my youth from boys and girls, it was a conscious decision to drink to lower your own inhibitions from both genders

Really weird for me to bring a scene like the one with lilian to be even close to rape, they both were drunk and she initiated it. Couldnt you say lilian raped the mc in this case too? (she did hold him there and initiated it)

Imo its just dumb and overdramatizing everything nowadays, and it downplays real rape.
Yeah that comment about drunk sex = rape is very sad but so typical of our "modern" society. And if a woman regrets having drunk sex the day after, while she was willing on the moment, she can say she was raped and destroy the guy's life
 

Crosaith.

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I don't quite understand why my comment was met with sarcasm regarding the permissions from Illusion. I was expressing concern about releasing the update due to the number of unfinished bugs. On top of that, I'm still figuring out how this forum works, even though I've been registered here for over a year, I don't visit often.

About Lillian's memories.
Don't worry, you'll still have the chance to explore an optional route with Lillian that will shed light on her past. Everything in its time.

Why May and not Chloe?
May, as a character, is much closer to the MC. If you were in his shoes, who would you choose to take with you? Someone whose name you just learned today, or someone who has been by your side your entire life?
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The comparison, frankly, is weird. Jaguar lost its audience because they traded their established image of successful men driving their cars for an unexpected ad with Teletubbies. But how does that relate? You had the chance to bond with one LI, not all of them at once, and that became the reason for such a conclusion?

Regarding other issues mentioned.
I'll take them into consideration. Some aspects of the game, especially the text content from earlier versions prior to v0.3, will be improved. Nothing new, just tweaking the structure and wording to make everything flow better.

Constructive criticism offered respectfully is far more valuable than dismissive comments. Please be courteous, it makes a difference. Thank you all for your feedback!
Really enjoyed the game. Just keep doin what your doin dude
 
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AnonW123

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Reading comments like these makes me happy to be not young nowadays lol

Drunk sex was kinda the usual experience in my youth from boys and girls, it was a conscious decision to drink to lower your own inhibitions from both genders

Really weird for me to bring a scene like the one with lilian to be even close to rape, they both were drunk and she initiated it. Couldnt you say lilian raped the mc in this case too? (she did hold him there and initiated it)

Imo its just dumb and overdramatizing everything nowadays, and it downplays real rape.
The MC doesn't get drunk, it is just her. He holds his liquor if he drinks and The Mc can choose to drink fruit juice all night and she still drinks alcohol and gets drunk.

In any event, the only option to have sex with her is for her to be drunk. If this doesn't bother you that's fine, but it isn't dumb for me to have a problem with it. While mutual drunk sex may have been seen as okay back in the day, it has always been a problem if one party is pass out drunk and another is sober. That isn't a recent thing.

That's my perspective. I'm not going to engage in any further insults. So I'm moving on from this debate.
 
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testers123456

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Constructive criticism offered respectfully is far more valuable than dismissive comments. Please be courteous, it makes a difference. Thank you all for your feedback!
Firstly, I'm glad to see a update to this story as I found it rather interesting when I noticed it on the update before this one and I found the humour of the scene with Dai coming out of the toilet pretty funny though the room setting seemed strange to me as I've never seen toilets in a changing room before. Secondly, I think you may need to address your second animation of the sex scene with Emma when she is getting railed while bent over the car for two reasons. The guys junk spends to much time out of her and during the first, third and especially the fourth angle used shows the dress doing some weird animations. The fourth angle basically looks like he has another leg coming out of his right leg even though that grey object is supposed to be her dress.
 
4.40 star(s) 39 Votes