VN Ren'Py Completed City of Broken Dreamers [v1.15.0 Ch. 15] [PhillyGames]

[LuciferPrometheus]

Imo it all depends how the world is built. If its some super grounded 1:1 real life sim game then its alot harder for me to accept than in a game like this which has basically an alternate timeline of what could happen if things go south and mutants turn out to be real. From what we have seen about the world it doesnt feel out of place that sex is a much more casual thing and relationships seem to mean something totally different than what is "normal" in real life.

It might be true for Victoria and Ellen but both Katie and Gloria(?) don't seem like the type who don't care if you fuck around. In fact Ellen would probably break up with you or go crazy if she found out you were fucking both her and Gloria because she sees her as a sister.
Katie should hate you if she found out you fucked shanlon and so should Gloria. And probably Ellen as well.
And I'm sure there are many other incongruencies.

This game kinda became a fuckfest at around episode 7 which is a shame because I remember playing the first 6 episodes at once when I started playing this game and I couldn't wait to play the next chapter. But after that the story went downhill.

Also the big cast takes away from the tension. Think about it, why does every horror/thriller movie have a small main cast? Because it's not as scary when there are too many people. They'll even make the characters split up to make it more scary/thrilling.

 

[Echoesinthedarkness]

It might be true for Victoria and Ellen but both Katie and Gloria(?) don't seem like the type who don't care if you fuck around. In fact Ellen would probably break up with you or go crazy if she found out you were fucking both her and Gloria because she sees her as a sister.
Katie should hate you if she found out you fucked shanlon and so should Gloria. And probably Ellen as well.
And I'm sure there are many other incongruencies.

This game kinda became a fuckfest at around episode 7 which is a shame because I remember playing the first 6 episodes at once when I started playing this game and I couldn't wait to play the next chapter. But after that the story went downhill.

Also the big cast takes away from the tension. Think about it, why does every horror/thriller movie have a small main cast? Because it's not as scary when there are too many people. They'll even make the characters split up to make it more scary/thrilling.

I dont know what do you mean? you were able to bang multiple girls right from the start

 

[moskyx]

I dont know what do you mean? you were able to bang multiple girls right from the start

Not really, or at least not so often. You could have sex with Ellen and Victoria since chapter 1, but you couldn't fuck Katie until 5, and Gloria was off the table for obvious reasons. And you could only fuck Shanlon once. From chapter 8 onwards, all those sex options got multiplied, and the fact that there were no hard limits as to how many scenes you could get in the same playthrough (there's only a couple of mutually exclusive scenes) makes a 'manwhore' route a total fuckfest that kills the intended thrilling narrative. Sure, all scenes are optional so that's on players, but that route is not that hard to get, and it totally detracts from the tension the writing tries to convey (especially because, most of times, you have to get to the location where that scene takes place anyway, even if you're not in that girl's sex route). To me, as a believable story-focused game, CoBD ended with Book 1 (chapters 1-7). Book 2 is just a completely different thing.

 

[micojive]

Not really, or at least not so often. You could have sex with Ellen and Victoria since chapter 1, but you couldn't fuck Katie until 5, and Gloria was off the table for obvious reasons. And you could only fuck Shanlon once. From chapter 8 onwards, all those sex options got multiplied, and the fact that there were no hard limits as to how many scenes you could get in the same playthrough (there's only a couple of mutually exclusive scenes) makes a 'manwhore' route a total fuckfest that kills the intended thrilling narrative. Sure, all scenes are optional so that's on players, but that route is not that hard to get, and it totally detracts from the tension the writing tries to convey (especially because, most of times, you have to get to the location where that scene takes place anyway, even if you're not in that girl's sex route). To me, as a believable story-focused game, CoBD ended with Book 1 (chapters 1-7). Book 2 is just a completely different thing.

To each their own. When I go into these games I know Im not playing Cyberpunk, I'm playing an adult VN which are inherently going to lead be heavy on the sex scenes. This game is more focused on story than most, but is still "just" a porn game. I still dont think its out of character for the world that multiple sex partners would be crazy.

The Patreon after all is "Phillygames, creating Adult games" not "Phillygames, creating a deeply hard sci-fi world that mimics our day to day life"

 

[Echoesinthedarkness]

Not really, or at least not so often. You could have sex with Ellen and Victoria since chapter 1, but you couldn't fuck Katie until 5, and Gloria was off the table for obvious reasons. And you could only fuck Shanlon once. From chapter 8 onwards, all those sex options got multiplied, and the fact that there were no hard limits as to how many scenes you could get in the same playthrough (there's only a couple of mutually exclusive scenes) makes a 'manwhore' route a total fuckfest that kills the intended thrilling narrative. Sure, all scenes are optional so that's on players, but that route is not that hard to get, and it totally detracts from the tension the writing tries to convey (especially because, most of times, you have to get to the location where that scene takes place anyway, even if you're not in that girl's sex route). To me, as a believable story-focused game, CoBD ended with Book 1 (chapters 1-7). Book 2 is just a completely different thing.

one can say thats because not all girls were introduced right at the start, but for example Shanlon can be screwed almost immediately too. game was always like that more or less. maybe only exception was this rebel girl with lightning symbol on her face

 

[Idontplay]

Not really. Some girls were immediately "fuckable", due to their nature: Chandra and Shanlon are natural born slut, Victoria is a corporate whore and Ellen was already a Jake's lover, but the other girls were off limits at the beginning, since the story didn't achieve the right conditions to fuck them; even if they were presented immediately (like the Doctor). Only in the later update the game became a fuckfest, since all the sex scenes in the Book 1 were well introduced by the storytelling, while most of the sex scenes in the Book 2 were pretty forced in the story.

 

[moskyx]

all the sex scenes in the Boo 1 were well introduced by the storytelling, while most of the sex scenes in the Book 2 were pretty forced in the story.

This. In Book 2, the effort to include all those sex scenes goes against the storytelling. Where Book 1 was an interesting story with sex scenes, Book 2 is a nice and entertaining fuckfest, but little else. Anyway, here's hoping for a satisfactory ending. With its flaws, it's still one of the best games out there.

 

[Echoesinthedarkness]

Not really. Some girls were immediately "fuckable", due to their nature: Chandra and Shanlon are natural born slut, Victoria is a corporate whore and Ellen was already a Jake's lover, but the other girls were off limits at the beginning, since the story didn't achieve the right conditions to fuck them; even if they were presented immediately (like the Doctor). Only in the later update the game became a fuckfest, since all the sex scenes in the Book 1 were well introduced by the storytelling, while most of the sex scenes in the Book 2 were pretty forced in the story.

nah Im still standing on the point its nothing but a wishful thinking or hidden frustration over long c14 release. and its weird to explain the amount of sex scenes because of "nature" of a characters, we are switching the cause and result here to suit argument. not to say its nothing out of extraordinary for porn game to up a pace further into development, and even then, the game had plenty of fuckery without much introduction, even in book 1.

 

[Idontplay]

Considering we have expressed this same complain even before the release of the chapter 12, I would say no.

 

[moskyx]

nah Im still standing on the point its nothing but a wishful thinking or hidden frustration over long c14 release. and its weird to explain the amount of sex scenes because of "nature" of a characters, we are switching the cause and result here to suit argument. not to say its nothing out of extraordinary for porn game to up a pace further into development, and even then, the game had plenty of fuckery without much introduction, even in book 1.

Oh, please, I thought we were having a serious discussion here. Don't play the 'you're frustrated because it's taking long' card with me, when I'm sick of explaining why WaL! devs haven't released an update in almost 2 years. Again, the problem is not that there's 'plenty of fuckery without much introduction', but that there's too much fuckery against the flow of the game. You can not try to convince us that the MC is being chased by all the powers that be, and then make him roam around the city again and again, even on foot, just for what feels like yet another booty call that doesn't really add to the plot (especially when your path chosen forces you to skip that sex scene). This is a complaint I've been expressing for some time now.

 

[Echoesinthedarkness]

Oh, please, I thought we were having a serious discussion here. Don't play the 'you're frustrated because it's taking long' card with me, when I'm sick of explaining why WaL! devs haven't released an update in almost 2 years. Again, the problem is not that there's 'plenty of fuckery without much introduction', but that there's too much fuckery against the flow of the game. You can not try to convince us that the MC is being chased by all the powers that be, and then make him roam around the city again and again, even on foot, just for what feels like yet another booty call that doesn't really add to the plot (especially when your path chosen forces you to skip that sex scene). This is a complaint I've been expressing for some time now.

same as you wont convince me that fucking Chandra in the backyard is some genius plot development, or having that infamous futa scene was 100% needed. its a fucking porn game, porn is the flow.

 

[LuciferPrometheus]

To each their own. When I go into these games I know Im not playing Cyberpunk, I'm playing an adult VN which are inherently going to lead be heavy on the sex scenes. This game is more focused on story than most, but is still "just" a porn game. I still dont think its out of character for the world that multiple sex partners would be crazy.

The Patreon after all is "Phillygames, creating Adult games" not "Phillygames, creating a deeply hard sci-fi world that mimics our day to day life"

Adult game doesn't mean just porn. The reason why most of us play these games is because of the story that mainstream porn lacks. There's a reason these are called visual "novels". The plot makes the sex scenes better because you're attached to the characters and actually care about what happens to them.

 

[Ghosty99]

Adult game doesn't mean just porn. The reason why most of us play these games is because of the story that mainstream porn lacks. There's a reason these are called visual "novels". The plot makes the sex scenes better because you're attached to the characters and actually care about what happens to them.

I agree

 

[AlienEDM]

Adult game doesn't mean just porn. The reason why most of us play these games is because of the story that mainstream porn lacks. There's a reason these are called visual "novels". The plot makes the sex scenes better because you're attached to the characters and actually care about what happens to them.

I agree. I love a game with a good story, but also with a good amount of spice sex. I think I'm still stucked at the 90's where the porn movies they were more softcore and with good stories. Example: Animal Instinct, a movie with spice softcore sex, but with good story theme.

 

[pitao]

For the next game Philly could always combined the 40s noir and the sci-fi, something like retrofuturism in Fallout games. It would be something very interesting design wise

Something like Terry Gilliam Brazil Movie from 1985? I'm all for it design wise and if the story is nearly as good as that movie even better. An original story of course but can always drink something from it since at its core it is a romance movie also.

 

[neway7]

Wow, nice to see a heavy dose of Shanlon, my favorite character, it's a shame Shanlon's scenes are so few and far between, could have added to the plot in the middle chapters and given her an LI ending as well, it's entirely possible that a bitch like that could be fucked good by the MC.

 

[Senigata]

Adult game doesn't mean just porn. The reason why most of us play these games is because of the story that mainstream porn lacks. There's a reason these are called visual "novels". The plot makes the sex scenes better because you're attached to the characters and actually care about what happens to them.

This is where one can draw a comparison with a Japanese visual novels. And by that I don't mean those nukigw fuckfests that go from one sex scene to the next, but stuff like the original Fate/Stay Night or, if we wanna go more Slice of Life drama, KiraKira, which have like 2 sex scenes per love interest scattered across like 15 hours of reading for each.

That isn't to say that nukige can't have interesting stories either. Take Bible Black for example.

Personally, I go about playing COBD by just focusing on one girl at a time and I feel like it serves the story more.

 

[ikheqir]

Does Henry appear in later chapters? I found his character to be very interesting.

 

[FunFuntomes]

Does Henry appear in later chapters? I found his character to be very interesting.

hard to appear since he's dead

 

[cxx]

hard to appear since he's dead

well................. that depends what big bad company is cooking up.