VN Ren'Py Cléo Torres: The Dance of Life [v1.3.0] [Static Fast Art]

[wildride69]

I'm just hoping the new storylines this update are more like the beginning of the title on release. Truthfully I didn't enjoy the drunken virginity loss and I didn't even download the lesbian path. I'm not into slow grinds but the bar/car scene didn't do it for me. I'm hoping we get back to the roommate and the bar owner.

I was a sub and would like to be again but the last two updates weren't at all for me. My fingers are crossed and I'm hoping for a really solid next release.

 

[PickerLewd]

Either I have something configured incorrectly, or it's the Privacy Badger add-on, but every time I enter SS, I have to reset the date of birth, reject cookies, and switch from dark mode to light mode . What a pain!

I have to go now, but when I come back, I'm going to vote. I think it's a good decision, but I would launch the game at least one day earlier for the Copper tier than for the Free tier , so that people don't unsubscribe.

For now, we have to be patient — it has only been released for the Whale Tier. I think there are five of them, and they're very loaded and quiet .

 

[wildride69]

Either I have something configured incorrectly, or it's the Privacy Badger add-on, but every time I enter SS, I have to reset the date of birth, reject cookies, and switch from dark mode to light mode . What a pain!

I have to go now, but when I come back, I'm going to vote. I think it's a good decision, but I would launch the game at least one day earlier for the Copper tier than for the Free tier , so that people don't unsubscribe.

For now, we have to be patient — it has only been released for the Whale Tier. I think there are five of them, and they're very loaded and quiet .

I have to login the same way on my Android device but I have no issues at all with SS login on Windows. Android I'm using Firefox browser and Windows I'm using chrome if that helps at all.

 

[staticfastart]

Well, since the poll isn't public, I can't actually see what's being discussed, but if you do care about my freeloading opinion, as b_m_dodger said, playing the time game and deferring updates will only get you so far. You just need to focus on the game itself—the release schedules, sizeable updates, good amount of content, and, obviously, the hot, steamy stuff. Your PC situation is now sorted; the only thing holding you back... is you.

You've even achieved your SubscribeStar goals. Things could not be any more perfect.
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Yeah indeed I’m already working on the next update. I mean I’m the first one understanding your frustration because I’m a player as well before being a developer. So tell me, just to understand your point of view, what you are proposing to me is that I should start releasing the updates for free from now on? Till the game becomes popular? How to define when a game becomes popular if it’s feee for all? And when it will become popular who would feel like supporting if maybe the game is already or almost complete? Also, why this scenario should work only for me? I’m a little confused ngl

 

[staticfastart]

I'm just hoping the new storylines this update are more like the beginning of the title on release. Truthfully I didn't enjoy the drunken virginity loss and I didn't even download the lesbian path. I'm not into slow grinds but the bar/car scene didn't do it for me. I'm hoping we get back to the roommate and the bar owner.

I was a sub and would like to be again but the last two updates weren't at all for me. My fingers are crossed and I'm hoping for a really solid next release.

You’ll have to wait for the next update my friend.

 

[johnyakuza1]

I'm just hoping the new storylines this update are more like the beginning of the title on release. Truthfully I didn't enjoy the drunken virginity loss and I didn't even download the lesbian path. I'm not into slow grinds but the bar/car scene didn't do it for me. I'm hoping we get back to the roommate and the bar owner.

I was a sub and would like to be again but the last two updates weren't at all for me. My fingers are crossed and I'm hoping for a really solid next release.

Without going into spoilers, you're really missing out on the Gwen path, trust me. Unlike other games, the lesbian path isn't purely about Gwen and Cleo, so there are situations where men also come into the picture, and they're goddamn amazing. I like it because when games have an “exclusive” lesbian path only revolving around two women, they usually get boring because you see it once and you've seen them all... But with Cleo, you can make certain choices that end the Gwen's path shortly after and still enjoy the pleasure from men despite going down a lesbian path. It's sort of a mixed path, and I highly recommend it.

I can't wait to see what v1.2.0 is actually about. I have no idea except for the introduction of Zoey.

 

[Anteron]

Yeah indeed I’m already working on the next update. I mean I’m the first one understanding your frustration because I’m a player as well before being a developer. So tell me, just to understand your point of view, what you are proposing to me is that I should start releasing the updates for free from now on? Till the game becomes popular? How to define when a game becomes popular if it’s feee for all? And when it will become popular who would feel like supporting if maybe the game is already or almost complete? Also, why this scenario should work only for me? I’m a little confused ngl

Devs who don't give public updates get pirated more and supported less. Same if they give very limited public ones - such as censored versions. Some people just don't support period because they got burned enough by ones who abandoned games. Or at least wait until a dev has finished a game well.

 

[johnyakuza1]

Yeah indeed I’m already working on the next update. I mean I’m the first one understanding your frustration because I’m a player as well before being a developer. So tell me, just to understand your point of view, what you are proposing to me is that I should start releasing the updates for free from now on? Till the game becomes popular? How to define when a game becomes popular if it’s feee for all? And when it will become popular who would feel like supporting if maybe the game is already or almost complete? Also, why this scenario should work only for me? I’m a little confused ngl

Not at all—three weeks is perfectly fine for an update to become free and public access. My point of view is you need to stop thinking about this topic entirely and focus on the updates themselves. I don't care about the waiting; I care about the game itself and the amount of content you deliver and seeing if you respect my engagement with your product regardless of whether I'm a paying customer or not... but it's especially true for a subscriber.

Is he getting that $50 worth of content? And granted that it's his/her choice to support you, no one's forcing them to do so, but the question of whether I am giving them their money's worth is something only you can answer. The higher tiers exist for a reason, and so do the lower ones, but that doesn't mean there's any discrimination there. Each of them is supporting exactly what they feel comfortable with and according to the value they think you provide with your game updates.

Regarding it being free for all? Well, I can't say about the current state of F95zone, but back when it started, it used to be a piracy forum, and it was the Wild West... Regardless of a developer's wishes, updates would be posted on day one. The developers that came early had the first movers' advantage because there wasn't that much competition back then... How do you think games like BADIK, made by DrPinkCake, MrDots Games... and a few other popular titles became mainstream? They were the first “victims” of piracy, and yet, now they make in the magnitude of a few hundred thousand every month because their games became popular due to their content and amount of gameplay they offer.

Long story short, making Cleo Torres popular has no correlation with it being completely free or instantly releasing it to the public. I'm not proposing anything; instead, I'm thankful that I have to wait slightly less than before, but it's the quality of the game itself that keeps me engaged and brings me back to this thread. Focus on the content, that's it.

 

[staticfastart]

Not at all—three weeks is perfectly fine for an update to become free and public access. My point of view is you need to stop thinking about this topic entirely and focus on the updates themselves. I don't care about the waiting; I care about the game itself and the amount of content you deliver and seeing if you respect my engagement with your product regardless of whether I'm a paying customer or not... but it's especially true for a subscriber.

Is he getting that $50 worth of content? And granted that it's his/her choice to support you, no one's forcing them to do so, but the question of whether I am giving them their money's worth is something only you can answer. The higher tiers exist for a reason, and so do the lower ones, but that doesn't mean there's any discrimination there. Each of them is supporting exactly what they feel comfortable with and according to the value they think you provide with your game updates.

Regarding it being free for all? Well, I can't say about the current state of F95zone, but back when it started, it used to be a piracy forum, and it was the Wild West... Regardless of a developer's wishes, updates would be posted on day one. The developers that came early had the first movers' advantage because there wasn't that much competition back then... How do you think games like BADIK, made by DrPinkCake, MrDots Games... and a few other popular titles became mainstream? They were the first “victims” of piracy, and yet, now they make in the magnitude of a few hundred thousand every month because their games became popular due to their content and amount of gameplay they offer.

Long story short, making Cleo Torres popular has no correlation with it being completely free or instantly releasing it to the public. I'm not proposing anything; instead, I'm thankful that I have to wait slightly less than before, but it's the quality of the game itself that keeps me engaged and brings me back to this thread. Focus on the content, that's it.

Thank you for sharing with me your point of view. I love reading feedbacks from you all, no matter if positive or negative.
For now, thank you, I will try to take your advice to heart.

 

[mom_liker]

This developer enjoys monopoly status. He's pretty much the only one here that produces western porn novels for women. He realizes that he has no competition, and so he can milk his fans by delaying updates.

But I'm already working on my game. I bought a Pico4 VR. I intend to create a VN VR where the player can finally have an emotional sexual sensual experience from a female perspective. So this developer's days are numbered. He will be forgotten like NickFiFa was forgotten.

 

[staticfastart]

This developer enjoys monopoly status. He's pretty much the only one here that produces western porn novels for women. He realizes that he has no competition, and so he can milk his fans by delaying updates.

But I'm already working on my game. I bought a Pico4 VR. I intend to create a VN VR where the player can finally have an emotional sexual sensual experience from a female perspective. So this developer's days are numbered. He will be forgotten like NickFiFa was forgotten.

Oh God I just needed one more week my friend
I’ve even started a poll, which ends in two days, aimed to reducing the time people has to wait in order to play the new updates.

I’m not the only one that produces games for women this site is full of female protagonist games.

sadly I don’t have a VR I would have loved playing your game!

 

[LowLevelLesser]

This developer enjoys monopoly status. He's pretty much the only one here that produces western porn novels for women.

...what? I really don't think that's true but okay. There's other games out there that are from the perspective of women and created by women as well. It's true that there certainly aren't many though compared to games that are male-focused fantasies.

 

[staticfastart]

...what? I really don't think that's true but okay. There's other games out there that are from the perspective of women and created by women as well. It's true that there certainly aren't many though compared to games that are male-focused fantasies.

Eheh yes indeed I know he’s trolling me but I must admit he’s very funny

 

[mom_liker]

this site is full of female protagonist games.

A games about female robots destroying crowds of monsters is not a female protagonist. It's a transsexual-psychopathic-alpha-male protagonist. And that's most of the games here. It's garbage made by 13 year old hikikomori who are afraid of women. Games like AWAM are not women's games either. Because women don't tend to change partners every day, unlike gays, trannies, and men. That's why your game is unique. And don't ask for compliments. You haven't earned them yet.

 

[staticfastart]

Do you remember when I was talking about the benefits of having a GPU like the one I have now, which is a 5090, comparing it to my previous one, which was a 4070ti?
Well... that's the difference:
- 7 Genesis characters
- 2 Vehicles
- 50 low poly characters
- 1 scene

I rendered this scene (from release 1.2.2) in 1 go in about 3 minutes, without having to render it multiple times by isolating groups of max 3 characters and then putting all the pieces back together via PhotoShop (which is how I made the scene at the tavern with Cléo and Dylan).

This time, it took me more time to build the scene than to render it.

 

[PickerLewd]

Does the fog have anything to do with it? (I mean the 3 minutes).

Is it faster on a clear, sunny day or in fog? .

I don't do any rendering, so as I only use the GPU for gaming, I don't need that 5090 monster .

 

[staticfastart]

Is it faster on a clear, sunny day or in fog? .

Exactly. Without fog is even faster

 

[johnyakuza1]

Do you remember when I was talking about the benefits of having a GPU like the one I have now, which is a 5090, comparing it to my previous one, which was a 4070ti?
Well... that's the difference:
- 7 Genesis characters
- 2 Vehicles
- 50 low poly characters
- 1 scene

I rendered this scene in 1 go in about 3 minutes, without having to render it multiple times by isolating groups of max 3 characters and then putting all the pieces back together via PhotoShop (which is how I made the scene at the tavern with Cléo and Dylan).

This time, it took me more time to build the scene than to render it.
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5090 is truly a beast. Is this why the first scene where Cleo falls asleep on the bus is entirely empty, aside from the bus driver? Because the 4070Ti could not handle rendering another character or was that an artistic choice?

On a separate note, are we finally getting bus groping/Chikan scenes? Pretty please?

 

[staticfastart]

5090 is truly a beast. Is this why the first scene where Cleo falls asleep on the bus is entirely empty, aside from the bus driver? Because the 4070Ti could not handle rendering another character or was that an artistic choice?

Yes, it would have been impossible for me to represent a crowded bus with three characters at a time. I had to adapt the story by inventing a reason why the bus should always be empty.

On a separate note, are we finally getting bus groping/Chikan scenes? Pretty please?

ahah only if Cléo is ok with it no spoilers!

 

[Enola Gay]

Yes, it would have been impossible for me to represent a crowded bus with three characters at a time. I had to adapt the story by inventing a reason why the bus should always be empty.


ahah only if Cléo is ok with it no spoilers!

Your game is huge surprise so far. Very good surprise I mean. I hope your new hardware will give you good tempo and more time to relax.

Are you planning to add male character who would be let say "boyfriend/husband" material to Cleo? Not just some guy who is only lusting over her?

In short, do you plan to add plain vanilla route too, or only pervs in varied densities? (Never thought that I will ask something like this in my entire life. I'm not proud of myself ).