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Sorry, was asleep. I am first getting a clean copy of the game to see if it was something on my side. Okay double checked. Still the same.

The choice was after going through all choices of try, then clicked to buy, you are then offered the screen saying roughly "this will continue the game, click no or yes), I think I normally tried with knight but worked on all, where saying "No" I don't want to stop checking things out wouldn't work and clicking it a few times changed to the start of the store with Penelope. This happened on both Aubrey and Penelope for me.

Updated Edit.

It isn't broken anymore.

With new update, I fully peeked in Viking armor, got caught but shows in Cowboy for both Aubrey and Penelope

On Penelope route buying auto skips the text asking if you want to finish.

but could lend me the money : could you lend

As an aside when I first launch the game I do get a log [conflict] text file.

On the phone, you may want a small image on the bottom to represent a back button. Which that part of the phone only works as back on messages and not stats screen.

In the hallway when MC first goes to his room, the area to click for the door on the left is rather large, it extends most of the left wall and to the plant, which makes it seem like each door would have its own thing.

The "Yet, you're here with me" was on my side, some weird font offset.

Turning down Lauren over the phone also has a [name], is everything okay?
Again, thank you so much for taking the time to report these. Most of these should be fixed in the hotfix. For the rest I might upload a version 0.2.2 tomorrow.
 

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That being said, you're doing good so far with what you've got going here UndergradSteve .
Characters are gorgeous, the story is interesting, and its clear you care about this project and are honestly listening to feedback, which is a huge + to me for any Dev.

Oh, one more thing when it comes to Emily; I see you're holding back on revealing what went down with the cheating but had I not thought the character model was gorgeous and had a thing for redheads, I'd never of given her the time of day when you see her in the halls. The lovely Dovey interactions are sweet, but smack of a couple that had a regular break up (and both kinda wanted to get back together), not when someone cheated on you. Its sweet, makes me like Emily more, but is off for someone who got their heart ripped out as anyone who's been cheated on will tell you.

Aaaanyways, sorry for the negative feedback, like I said, I do love the game so far. I just don't have tips/feedback alot of the time for the things that I liked, the bad always sticks out in the memory more then the good for me. Heh, probably something a psychologist would worry about. xD
 

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That being said, you're doing good so far with what you've got going here UndergradSteve .
Characters are gorgeous, the story is interesting, and its clear you care about this project and are honestly listening to feedback, which is a huge + to me for any Dev.

Oh, one more thing when it comes to Emily; I see you're holding back on revealing what went down with the cheating but had I not thought the character model was gorgeous and had a thing for redheads, I'd never of given her the time of day when you see her in the halls. The lovely Dovey interactions are sweet, but smack of a couple that had a regular break up (and both kinda wanted to get back together), not when someone cheated on you. Its sweet, makes me like Emily more, but is off for someone who got their heart ripped out as anyone who's been cheated on will tell you.

Aaaanyways, sorry for the negative feedback, like I said, I do love the game so far. I just don't have tips/feedback alot of the time for the things that I liked, the bad always sticks out in the memory more then the good for me. Heh, probably something a psychologist would worry about. xD
i think Emily would be my number1 if it wasn't for the cheating but now at the min its Chloe
 

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UndergradSteve , I totally get what you are trying to do but as a porn game, you have to make the system a little more simple or give people character bios on the phone with "Likes Bros/boyfriends/troublemakers ect" Having 3 choice stats that give 3 derived stats as well as telling people to "Just make the choices you like" is going to lead to alot of people being very unhappy when the choices they might make do not lead to the girl they want.

We are perverts but we are also gamers, so if we have a goal (a love interest), we need a clear path to atain them.
I think a more simplified system would serve you alot better, just Loyalty, Confidence, Popularity. Especially with all the choices you are tracking, once you get into branching paths the coding itself will spiral out of control.

Also I see you've said in the past that this will be a harem game and yet it seems REALLY easy to completely close off a path with a girl inadvertently. I know you're going for realism, but harems (for most people) arnt very realistic with alot of people's point of views. Though I had plenty of college friends who were Poly, they never had a true "Harem".

At the end of the day you have to choose what do you want your game to be more, fun or realistic?

Personally I'll take fun 11 times out of 10.
I saw a lot off post of you and you are real kinky and a pervert thats a huge KAPPA:rolleyes: but I actually think the dev is very talanted but I have the feeling that this game will end like the other games.THe Harem fanbase is too huge and determine and egoistic too alow any kinks or path beside what they like sadly.
 

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I saw a lot off post of you and you are real kinky and a pervert thats a huge KAPPA:rolleyes: but I actually think the dev is very talanted but I have the feeling that this game will end like the other games.THe Harem fanbase is too huge and determine and egoistic too alow any kinks or path beside what they like sadly.
im hoping we dont have to have an harem we can have just 1 girl alot of games seem to be going the harem direction lately
 

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UndergradSteve , I totally get what you are trying to do but as a porn game, you have to make the system a little more simple or give people character bios on the phone with "Likes Bros/boyfriends/troublemakers ect" Having 3 choice stats that give 3 derived stats as well as telling people to "Just make the choices you like" is going to lead to alot of people being very unhappy when the choices they might make do not lead to the girl they want.

We are perverts but we are also gamers, so if we have a goal (a love interest), we need a clear path to atain them.
I think a more simplified system would serve you alot better, just Loyalty, Confidence, Popularity. Especially with all the choices you are tracking, once you get into branching paths the coding itself will spiral out of control.

Also I see you've said in the past that this will be a harem game and yet it seems REALLY easy to completely close off a path with a girl inadvertently. I know you're going for realism, but harems (for most people) arnt very realistic with alot of people's point of views. Though I had plenty of college friends who were Poly, they never had a true "Harem".

At the end of the day you have to choose what do you want your game to be more, fun or realistic?

Personally I'll take fun 11 times out of 10.

Hey there,

Thanks so much for writing this up, it raises quite a lot of interesting points.

This is all new for me, but I'm very invested into creating something that feels like choices matter and have a larger impact than is seen at first. I'll try my best to make find an optional solution for players who dislike the lack of clarity.

Take care,
Undergrad Steve
 
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I saw a lot off post of you and you are real kinky and a pervert thats a huge KAPPA:rolleyes: but I actually think the dev is very talanted but I have the feeling that this game will end like the other games.THe Harem fanbase is too huge and determine and egoistic too alow any kinks or path beside what they like sadly.
I appreciate your kind words :)

I will try my best to keep this game unique and interesting.
 
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im hoping we dont have to have an harem we can have just 1 girl alot of games seem to be going the harem direction lately
I do not think UndergradSteve will include a "true harem", in a sense of girls just existing to please the MC and have no desires of their own and no jealousy what so ever and are willing to share him around. This goes aganist the entire tone of the game. I think what we will have is that you will be able to get the MC to fool around with multiple women, but if you get caught or word spreads around of your activity your reputation will be ruined and no girl will trust your word anymore.
 

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I do not think UndergradSteve will include a "true harem", in a sense of girls just existing to please the MC and have no desires of their own and no jealousy what so ever and are willing to share him around. This goes aganist the entire tone of the game. I think what we will have is that you will be able to get the MC to fool around with multiple women, but if you get caught or word spreads around of your activity your reputation will be ruined and no girl will trust your word anymore.
hopefully i dont mind harem games as long as we dont have to share the girls but i just want a nice 1 gf try not to cheat and knock out some muppets game
 

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Hey,

I'm not sure if misunderstand the term. It's very unlikely that girls will cheat on you (After the story has started), however breakups and rejections will be in the game.

I understand if dislike that and that's fair. Thank you for trying the game.
It may not be NTR by definition but i consider seeing or hearing about any of the girls that could be one of the MC's Love Interests with any guy that isn't the MC even if she isn't with you at the time I consider undesirable content, it it's Dialogue about the past before the MC's introduction to the girls that alright, otherwise it's kind of like if someone sticks a dick in your Pie, your Pie has been ruined...
So ideally any girl who can be a Love Interests at any point should not have a relationship or any naughty fun of any sort once the MC is introduced to said girls... The exception would be Netori and stealing the girl for yourself but anyone who is against NTR still would like to not see any Lewd or suggestive scenes...

I have no idea what is Light/Soft NTR is that brand holding? Kissing with tongue or is it a handjob or something? Can't say I know what light NTR is and at what point it's no longer Light NTR...

A good example if the games I would usual play would be WVM, Where the Heart is, midlife crisis...

You can have a realistic game without having NTR of any sort, it's unnecessary unless you are trying to make some players jealous or angry, realistically a woman seeing another man to make you jealous in hopes that you'll pay attention to her doesn't work, it's a old movie cliche, girls playing hard to get or fool around with other guys can be a big turn off... Sorry if this seems like a rent, it isn't, I just wanted to share my opinion in detail and hopefully not sound rude while doing it...

Sonto simply, ideal the player doesn't hear or see anything that would suggest the girls are involved with another male unless it was past experience before the girls met the player, any scene or detailed information about the girls past experience is unnecessary unless she is shit talking her ex's and the player is trying to console and comfort the girl as a way to bond and build trust with her.

Hopefully that makes sense and didn't seem rude of me or anything... I don't know the plans for the game but good luck with it regardless and I'd you don't add NTR to it I'll likely play it, just don't add NTR or other stuff for the sake of it or just to add an extra tag, it can ruin it for many players so try to be very clear on future intention and plans, don't add it if you don't enjoy Netorare yourself, Netori is a different thing :)ita all just personal opinion though, so good luck mate
 
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So I heard the dev plans for this to be harem... How? Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have all these bitches to myself but only way that could happen is if all these paths and choices only affect the dialogue and nothing more.
 
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i think Emily would be my number1 if it wasn't for the cheating but now at the min its Chloe
You are not alone there, she's sweet, has history with the MC and seems like a great match... except that big black cloud hanging over their head.
 

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So I heard the dev plans for this to be harem... How? Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have all these bitches to myself but only way that could happen is if all these paths and choices only affect the dialogue and nothing more.
This!

I'm confused how it could end up a harem myself unless The Dev adds a different route later on, as right now, no way you can get all the girls to yourself. Which to me, a harem fan, is sad.

It would be nice to have the option of a single girl route and a multigirl/harem route but this project will already be a daunting task to update with all the different paths that will be spiraling out from the choices ALREADY in the game, let alone trying to create harem and non harem paths.

Interesting game Steve, I hope to see what you do with the feedback from the thread.
 
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You are not alone there, she's sweet, has history with the MC and seems like a great match... except that big black cloud hanging over their head.
and shes smoking hot so if the dev could maybe just cut the cheating bit that would be great but i know its part of the story just a bit of a punch to the gut
 
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