VN Ren'Py College Kings [Act 2 v5.3.0] [Undergrad Steve]

[mdmnsjs1]

anyone got a save i can have that has nora as your girlfriend? thanks for any help my saves worked on the last update but are screwed in this one

 

[TheAvatar]

Torrent?

 

[Crusader of Romance]

Not really surprising if they continuously switch writers, how many had they now 3 or 4.

They don't switch writers because they want to. The hate mail (and even death threats FFS!!!) makes the writers quit. Now nobody wants the job so he has to write it himself and that means it will take much longer to make the episodes. Not to mention the review bombings on Steam forcing them to revamp episodes. People hated the Amber detective storyline so much they are removing it completely and replacing it with something else. That takes time.



Is this game perfect? No. And neither is BaDIK (that also still have bugs). The main thing is they are doing their best. People forget that they are amateurs, not pros with education in game developing. Some people act like they are creating bugs or "ruining" characters on purpose. No, they want to make a good game!

I have no idea why this team changes the writers so often, but that is pretty much the worst person to switch, as you said, story and character personality changes too often and no continuity.

Why the first one quit, nobody knows. It was very sudden. The ones since then (during Act IV/CK2) have been because they couldn't take the pressure and negative feedback. Two writers left after the release of Episode 2, something that really hurt the development.

As for the bugs, i think this was even adressed by the dev team (it has been a while).
IIRC one of the problems was that they would add new content a day or two before release, basically no testing being done and even if they knew that there were bugs, they still would rather release the update in the broken state than do a bug fix first...and they had no intention to change that habit, well i think they said, they try not to add new content days before release, but releasing the update was more important then fixing it first.

Something like that. It's a beta release because people want to play as fast as possible and players are good at finding bugs. It's not ment to be a public release. They do work on bugfixing up until release. Sometimes they have rescheduled the release because there are some bugs that really need to be fixed first. A lot of people here act like they are getting a final release that is broken. And they release fixes very often on Patreon but very few of them get uploaded here.

Unlike many other Devs, they are still fixing bugs in the first game (just released a new update the other day) while working on CK2. Find a bug, just tell them and they will fix it. It's rare to find Devs that listen so much to their players. I would even say they listen too much sometimes.

As for the story, i have no idea if they even have maped out the story, honestly i doubt it, but the character changes are what i really hate.

They map out the storylines but things change. Like the election was originally planned to end with Episode 2. And they add LIs depending on fan feedback. Nora and Lindsey, as examples, were never planned to be main LIs.
I agree with the character changes, and that is the problem with switching writers. As an example, Lauren was my favorite LI but they completley changed her so you can barely recognise her. The reason was part that a writer really hated her and part that they listened to fans who found her boring. The problem with changing characters to appease fans who dislike those characters is that you alienate the players who liked those characters as they were.
Same with Emily who a writer also hated and really took that hate out on the character and made her insane.

I hope they will fix that now with the Episode 2 revamp and that they learned their lesson about NOT changing the characters' personalities. Undergrad Steve needs to keep control of the characters and tell the writers what to write, not give them full control. Like when they write TV-shows.

 

[Raziel_8]

The hate mail (and even death threats FFS!!!) makes the writers quit.

I didn't know it was that bad, honestly the first time i heard they got death threats, some people are really fucked up...

Is this game perfect? No. And neither is BaDIK (that also still have bugs). The main thing is they are doing their best. People forget that they are amateurs, not pros with education in game developing. Some people act like they are creating bugs or "ruining" characters on purpose. No, they want to make a good game!

Something like that. It's a beta release because people want to play as fast as possible and players are good at finding bugs. It's not ment to be a public release. They do work on bugfixing up until release. Sometimes they have rescheduled the release because there are some bugs that really need to be fixed first. A lot of people here act like they are getting a final release that is broken. And they release fixes very often on Patreon but very few of them get uploaded here.

True, neither is perfect and i think no one really expects them to be.
But season one was one of the most horrible bugfests i have seen so far. It wasn't even hard to find bugs, it were mostly plain obvious ones (often game breaking) and everyone which would have played it once would have seen them.
Add to that that nearly every single update had these bugs.
But it is much better in season 2, so i'm happy they listen to the feedback.

They map out the storylines but things change. Like the election was originally planned to end with Episode 2. And they add LIs depending on fan feedback. Nora and Lindsey, as examples, were never planned to be main LIs.

Yes, i meant more the main story, key scenes and story direction. That ther are changes or additional scenes with LI's is to be expected and i like that they made Nora an LI.

It just feels like they have no particular direction for the story, like the fight club which was basically non existent for most of the game, and other scenes like Penelopes VN project feel just like filler cause they had no other idea what to do.

I agree with the character changes, and that is the problem with switching writers. As an example, Lauren was my favorite LI but they completley changed her so you can barely recognise her. The reason was part that a writer really hated her and part that they listened to fans who found her boring. The problem with changing characters to appease fans who dislike those characters is that you alienate the players who liked those characters as they were.
Same with Emily who a writer also hated and really took that hate out on the character and made her insane.

I hope they will fix that now with the Episode 2 revamp and that they learned their lesson about NOT changing the characters' personalities. Undergrad Steve needs to keep control of the characters and tell the writers what to write, not give them full control. Like when they write TV-shows.

Yeah...Lauren was one of the characters i didn't like the changes, Lindsey after the election took also a nosedive for me and the new direction for Chloe just doesn't fit with how her character was shown so the entire time.

As for Emily...i think that would be difficult, or at least they would need change a lot of things. I don't have an idea where they are even plan to go with her since they made her leave.

One scene i hope they change would be Penelope, their first time feels just strange. They had the nice date and she is all about no sex yet and overall romantic, next day yeah let's do it in the dean's office...nothing against that, but it feels just not fitting at that time and how their date night ended.

A other character i liked was Riley before the europe trip and she falls in love with half of the LI's, but yeah not much hope for changes there.

But so far the overall writing of the latest writer, is the one which i like the least.

 

[jbue520]

The previous version can also roll back the operation, even if you choose the wrong option, you can also roll back the mouse to return to the previous selection, the current version can't do it?

 

[TrueAlatar]

Help, please! where the last update ends? I've download the update and ends there - at the moment where Grayson beat Chris

 

[Ghosty99]

Help, please! where the last update ends? I've download the update and ends there - at the moment where Grayson beat Chris

It ends there That's the ending of Episode 3

 

[JoeSte91]

Fuck, are they looking for writers?

 

[Crusader of Romance]

True, neither is perfect and i think no one really expects them to be.
But season one was one of the most horrible bugfests i have seen so far. It wasn't even hard to find bugs, it were mostly plain obvious ones (often game breaking) and everyone which would have played it once would have seen them.
Add to that that nearly every single update had these bugs.

True, there were a lot of bugs in season 1. The problem with doing such an ambitious game and not really knowing what you are doing. But they seem to have learned by their mistakes.

Yes, i meant more the main story, key scenes and story direction. That ther are changes or additional scenes with LI's is to be expected and i like that they made Nora an LI.

It just feels like they have no particular direction for the story, like the fight club which was basically non existent for most of the game, and other scenes like Penelopes VN project feel just like filler cause they had no other idea what to do.

Yeah, maybe he had some idea in the beginning but I doubt there are any real plans with the main story. It's basically a TV-show where they only plan the current storyline. Maybe he has an idea about the ending.

As for Emily...i think that would be difficult, or at least they would need change a lot of things. I don't have an idea where they are even plan to go with her since they made her leave.

They really messed up her story. I know she was never planned to be a main LI but some players really liked her. The way they handled her in Act 3, pure character assassination.

One scene i hope they change would be Penelope, their first time feels just strange. They had the nice date and she is all about no sex yet and overall romantic, next day yeah let's do it in the dean's office...nothing against that, but it feels just not fitting at that time and how their date night ended.

YES! So much THIS! It made no sense at all and was just done to satisfy the porn-players who only wanted new sex scenes.

A other character i liked was Riley before the europe trip and she falls in love with half of the LI's, but yeah not much hope for changes there.

They seem to have no idea what to do with her.

But so far the overall writing of the latest writer, is the one which i like the least.

That would be Undergrad Steve himself. He took over after Episode 2, rewrote parts of it, wrote Episode 3 and is now rewriting Episode 2 more. He hasn't written for the game since Act 1 of season 1. But some of the characters changed were fleshed out after he stopped writing so maybe that explains things.
I liked the style of the girl who wrote Act 3 of season 1 (except for what she did with Emily) and some of Episode 1 of CK2.

Fuck, are they looking for writers?

I think they still are, yeah. For now, Undergrad Steve has to write it all himself and that means longer development time.

 

[Raziel_8]

That would be Undergrad Steve himself. He took over after Episode 2, rewrote parts of it, wrote Episode 3 and is now rewriting Episode 2 more. He hasn't written for the game since Act 1 of season 1. But some of the characters changed were fleshed out after he stopped writing so maybe that explains things.
I liked the style of the girl who wrote Act 3 of season 1 (except for what she did with Emily) and some of Episode 1 of CK2.

Hm, didn't know that he has written ep 3 himself.
To be fair, i would need to replay and check if the scenes i meant are in ep 2 or 3, i do remember that i had some dislike for the latest party thought.

 

[Malice2099]

I am so annoyed with this game. I played through the entire game quite a few times (as Wolves then as Apes) with multiple save files for different love interests at the end (plus the bang everyone route).

Now all saves work fine in version 3.0.11. I did an update to version 3.1.8 and absolutely none of the saves work. I get an error screen and choosing ignore puts me at a choice for "real life or not" and then starts a new game at the airport.

I nuked the update and put 3.0.11 back and all saves work again. However.... if they do not work in 3.1.8 then I'm expecting they are going to be screwed in all future versions.

All of my saves are complete up to the Chris fight which totals a lot of time put into playing this game.

Why would they put out an update which makes all saves no longer work? To me that is just stupidity!

Malice

 

[eboyfriend]

does this have lovense integrated?

 

[Anukich]

I dnt know why the android version in this thread was never updated. Here's the android version ported by Dark Assassin.All credits goes to him and not me.I got the link from his Discord channel
I hope its allowed to post it here.If not ill remove it.
Game Version is 15.1.0
Mega

Could you upd the link plz?

 

[Crusader of Romance]

I am so annoyed with this game. I played through the entire game quite a few times (as Wolves then as Apes) with multiple save files for different love interests at the end (plus the bang everyone route).

Now all saves work fine in version 3.0.11. I did an update to version 3.1.8 and absolutely none of the saves work. I get an error screen and choosing ignore puts me at a choice for "real life or not" and then starts a new game at the airport.

I nuked the update and put 3.0.11 back and all saves work again. However.... if they do not work in 3.1.8 then I'm expecting they are going to be screwed in all future versions.

All of my saves are complete up to the Chris fight which totals a lot of time put into playing this game.

Why would they put out an update which makes all saves no longer work? To me that is just stupidity!

Malice

I have checked my saves and except for them all suddenly having the same date and time, they all work.
If you're not using any mods I would report this to their Discord. It would really help them fix this bug. And unlike many other Devs, they don't hold it against you if you haven't bought their game legally, they will still listen. However, they have released a new patch today so it might have fixed it.

Edit: I checked and 319 did indeed fix some save problems.

 

[Crusader of Romance]

Hm, didn't know that he has written ep 3 himself.
To be fair, i would need to replay and check if the scenes i meant are in ep 2 or 3, i do remember that i had some dislike for the latest party thought.

Episode 1 ends with the election and Episode 3 starts with the Wolf voting and preparing for the upcoming fight.

 

[Night Hacker]

Can someone explain what exactly is going on with this game?! I just downloaded yet another version. I am way behind on playing this, been a while, I can't recall the last time I played it so I figured, must have lots to catch up on... so I play it, it goes a few screens and then ENDS?! What the actual fuck?! Please give me one good reason not to delete this permanently?

I normally am not one to complain, but this is ridiculous.

 

[Crusader of Romance]

Can someone explain what exactly is going on with this game?! I just downloaded yet another version. I am way behind on playing this, been a while, I can't recall the last time I played it so I figured, must have lots to catch up on... so I play it, it goes a few screens and then ENDS?! What the actual fuck?! Please give me one good reason not to delete this permanently?

I normally am not one to complain, but this is ridiculous.

The latest episode of College Kings 2 was released a little over 2 months ago. This update was just a patch.
For some reason the mods have renamed College Kings 1 to Act I and College Kings 2 to Act II in the OP. Did you download Act I or Act II?

 

[Night Hacker]

The latest episode of College Kings 2 was released a little over 2 months ago. This update was just a patch.
For some reason the mods have renamed College Kings 1 to Act I and College Kings 2 to Act II in the OP. Did you download Act I or Act II?

I actually have both on my system. I had a save from the last version for Act 2. I haven't played it in a while, perhaps there still isn't more content? <shrug> I'll play something else and stay away from this for another year I guess.

 

[Crusader of Romance]

I actually have both on my system. I had a save from the last version for Act 2. I haven't played it in a while, perhaps there still isn't more content? <shrug> I'll play something else and stay away from this for another year I guess.

There won't be a new episode for some time (late this year). People hated Episode 2 so much that he's first revamping that this summer, deleting the Amber detective storyline and adding some new storylines instead. So when you do play again, you'll need to replay Episode 2.

 

[Raziel_8]

There won't be a new episode for some time (late this year). People hated Episode 2 so much that he's first revamping that this summer, deleting the Amber detective storyline and adding some new storylines instead. So when you do play again, you'll need to replay Episode 2.

Was that all people hated or were there other parts which he plans to rework ?

I'm by no means a fan of the Amber detective play, wouldn't say i hated it thought, just feels pointless...especialy the second one about the frats.