VN Ren'Py College of Mysteria [v0.10] [HappySteveGames]

[ShiroGato]

Scene 3:

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Scene 3 highlighted for me the difference between full share and limited share/swing. I did, indeed view all paths, but if I am being honest, the full share aspects of this scene are not for me. I got nothing from them. However there is an audience that this is indeed for. But if all scenes went this way and the higher budget always went to the full share scenarios. It would be a downer for me. Even if I could/did see the those routes.

I appreciate the breakdown, and I think I stand on the border of limited to no share camp for this game. This game is my first exposure to this type of material and it allows me to see what I'm comfortable with and what doesn't work. For that, I applaud the dev.

With scene 3, trying to make something equal or to translate a complex scene that appeases or satisfies all camps equally is just a fool's errand imo. Dev has already stated his intent on the VN, and it's up to the audience to choose what/how much they want to engage with. Not to say player input isn't important, but this is a kinetic novel, and the expectation is this is the dev's story to tell. I also agree that Cindy gets full protection is the best approach otherwise it gets really messy narratively.

Cindy is the most popular character by far and I think the fears of her getting no sex scenes is overblown (if indeed that is the concern). She will have content with Will, but their relationship is already established and we don't need to see them fornicating at every opportunity. She will always remain relevant but necessarily the focal point as there are other characters and relationships to explore.

 

[Adhdclassic]

#DONOTSHARECINDY (Don't let anyone play with your favorite toy)
Wouldn't it be wild if Penelope is in Cindys domain.

 

[reidanota]

I think there's a good balance in the game. As Steve pointed out, the game was never meant to be vanilla. There are two types of content that make it stand out, netori and LI sharing. To be frank, the netori part, with Cindy's strong cuckquean vibe, is really what makes this game unique. The sharing content is great mostly because of the author's good taste and humour, otherwise it would be in line with what other games offer - good to scratch the itch, though not unique.

So imho, players who choose to simply not see the sharing content, are still spoilt with a really good cuckquean route. Each player takes what they want. This is how I like games, author sticks to what they do best, players have choices to pick or avoid scenes. Having independent routes with equal amount of content is inefficient, bogs down production and people still complain.

Some games like Medical Special Care have alternative sharing/vanilla routes - if you take the NTS route, wife will be cucking you most of the time because sharing scenes are presented INSTEAD of vanilla sex. So frustrating... In this game, at least, you can choose each time if you share Cindy or not. If I'm not mistaken (can't be sure, always shared) if you don't share her with Eustice, for example, you still have the same scene play out differently.

 

[Gamaken]

ive never seen such whiny players, its very obvious what this game is trying to be but half the people here fail to see that?

 

[JarrenBlake]

Cindy is the most popular character by far and I think the fears of her getting no sex scenes is overblown (if indeed that is the concern). She will have content with Will, but their relationship is already established and we don't need to see them fornicating at every opportunity. She will always remain relevant but necessarily the focal point as there are other characters and relationships to explore.

I don't think that them having scenes or not is the concern. The question was more about the difference in quality.

Some games like Medical Special Care have alternative sharing/vanilla routes - if you take the NTS route, wife will be cucking you most of the time because sharing scenes are presented INSTEAD of vanilla sex. So frustrating... In this game, at least, you can choose each time if you share Cindy or not. If I'm not mistaken (can't be sure, always shared) if you don't share her with Eustice, for example, you still have the same scene play out differently.

For now you can indeed choose each time that you share her and I think the intent is that will remain the case. But no, the same scene does not play out per se in sharing vs non sharing. The example of that would be the first scene I laid out because in the sharing route Cindy has sex with the MC in the non share version she does not.

I definitely agree that the routes cannot be equal. There will always be more renders and content on the shared path. My main point is that in situations in which we can potentially balance them without much loss, it would be a good idea to do so. Such as instances in which the shared path has a render that could also fit on the vanilla path. Instances in which a simple model swap could be done. Sometimes it might also need to be that the vanilla path gets the animation instead of the shared path. I ultimately trust the Dev to make said scene budget and dev cycle time choices. They more than I do on the matter, just putting it out there.

 

[buhaoyisi42]

"Didn't expect all this drama in the game's community (I just came to check for updates). The sharing and netori are absolutely perfect for me, seriously no complaints (just wish the sex scenes were a bit longer tbh)

 

[Ass Fan]

Route sharing is what makes the game super exciting and keeps a good audience. If there wasn't a way to share Cid, it would just be another fantasy romance game.

 

[JarrenBlake]

"Didn't expect all this drama in the game's community (I just came to check for updates). The sharing and netori are absolutely perfect for me, seriously no complaints (just wish the sex scenes were a bit longer tbh)

Nahh no drama. Just discussions. I don't think any dislikes the game. Quite the opposite, everyone really enjoys it. But it is always good to have healthy non combative discussions and feedback.

 

[dexterousgecko]

"Didn't expect all this drama in the game's community (I just came to check for updates). The sharing and netori are absolutely perfect for me, seriously no complaints (just wish the sex scenes were a bit longer tbh)

the sex scenes very much need some more renders. Heck, I'd be okay with removing the animated stuff if we actually had 5 - 10 extra static renders for each animated one.

Imagine some scenes with Cindy and E (i can't spell his name) in the shower when she first sees him naked? Watching her teasing him and him jerking off?

Sorry, bit off topic :3 that scene that didn't really happen was just so hot to me LOL

 

[buhaoyisi42]

the sex scenes very much need some more renders. Heck, I'd be okay with removing the animated stuff if we actually had 5 - 10 extra static renders for each animated one.

Imagine some scenes with Cindy and E (i can't spell his name) in the shower when she first sees him naked? Watching her teasing her and him jerking off?

Sorry, bit off topic :3 that scene that didn't really happen was just so hot to me LOL

"the shower" ture,dude,ture...

 

[reidanota]

the sex scenes very much need some more renders. Heck, I'd be okay with removing the animated stuff if we actually had 5 - 10 extra static renders for each animated one.

Imagine some scenes with Cindy and E (i can't spell his name) in the shower when she first sees him naked? Watching her teasing her and him jerking off?

Sorry, bit off topic :3 that scene that didn't really happen was just so hot to me LOL

Yep, but it's also true genius that they're not seen, but have a strong effect. For my part, loved the suggestive nature of that particular scene, feels in line with the game's comic tone (some economy of drawn and written material in favour of a faster moving narrative, as opposed to dwelling longer on each episode). It also gives Cindy more perceived autonomy, she makes it clear that nothing happened solely because she didn't want to. Even if the MC wouldn't mind, it was her decision. That's what a true vixen would do, command the action, not be carried by circumstance like a slut

 

[Ass Fan]

Cindy is surprising me with every update. I just hope it continues, I'm loving everything no matter where it goes.

 

[yourmomma]

ive never seen such whiny players, its very obvious what this game is trying to be but half the people here fail to see that?

Happens in every game thread with games like these. These people like to torture themselves.

 

[mephistobr]

Happens in every game thread with games like these. These people like to torture themselves.

They do it because Devs end up pandering to them. I don't even mind anymore. If a dev caves to this type of crowd I just stop supporting the game. Vote with your wallet.

 

[Bob XP]

the developer decides, so bring on the next ones

 

[JarrenBlake]

They do it because Devs end up pandering to them. I don't even mind anymore. If a dev caves to this type of crowd I just stop supporting the game. Vote with your wallet.

How is that really different? If the game goes in a direction that you dislike, you stop supporting.

So far I have not really seen anything on this thread that states the game is bad or that the developer 'must' make changes. To be fair though, I could have just missed it. Sure people have feedback but so what? The dev will either use it or not, their choice.

 

[mephistobr]

How is that really different? If the game goes in a direction that you dislike, you stop supporting.

So far I have not really seen anything on this thread that states the game is bad or that the developer 'must' make changes. To be fair though, I could have just missed it. Sure people have feedback but so what? The dev will either use it or not, their choice.

The difference is I don't bitch about it. There's a difference between criticism and whining. The dev can do what he wants, so can I.

 

[JarrenBlake]

The difference is I don't bitch about it. There's a difference between criticism and whining. The dev can do what he wants, so can I.

And so can everyone. It's all good as long as personal insults and the like are not being tossed about. Trust that Devs can look at all comments and still do what they feel is right for their game. Even if a comment resonates with a Dev, at this point I trust that they will use it in a way they feel best fits their game. It may or may not be what you or I would like to happen. In such cases we can just move on to other games/VNs.

 

[mephistobr]

And so can everyone. It's all good as long as personal insults and the like are not being tossed about. Trust that Devs can look at all comments and still do what they feel is right for their game. Even if a comment resonates with a Dev, at this point I trust that they will use it in a way they feel best fits their game. It may or may not be what you or I would like to happen. In such cases we can just move on to other games/VNs.

Don't know what's your point exactly. But ok.

 

[dexterousgecko]

Don't know what's your point exactly. But ok.

His point is 'some' people spend as much time bitching about people that don't like certain things as the people bitching about the thing itself. No one is better lol. We're all just saying how we feel.