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It could be that Noel is in reality a 1:1 copy of Nael, just without being "compromised" by living as long as Nael and having this much responsibility and her true strenght/abilitys are simply not unlocked yet or shes unaware of them.

Created to succeed Nael.

Her having white hair when she fought against amy as a feral could indicate that, that this is her true form while the blonde hair is more of a symbol of her innocence/morals.
That is sort of what I have been thinking. When Noel told the story of her creation, she said that after splitting off a part of herself, Nael was shortly back at full strength. I see absolutely nothing stopping the part of Nael that she got rid of from gaining the same type of power as she has given enough time. If Nael can lose a part of herself and be at 100% strength, it stands to reason the part of her that is missing, even if it is smaller, will obtain that amount of strength. It will just take much longer since it is a smaller piece. After all, it would make absolutely no sense if one part of Nael could get back to full power but another part of her can't.
 
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Tessah already respwaned (was she even fully gone?), we dont really have a lot of knowledge how all of this works, how much % of tessahs power did arsa got?
Tessah's power resides in Arsa. Nael offers Emma (via Clara and Arsa) a fix for her current situation, which we haven't played out. So she doesn't exist in the 'main' realm of the game.

When she was in Nael's realm, for the new primordial meeting/summoning, she was brought there by Nael. We don't know how powerful she was, or wasn't, at the time, but Arsa makes a comment in that meeting about possibly being the most powerful after Nael.

If she exists in Nael's realm (as I think was said?), Tessah may be able to reach out via her pearl (like Nael did), but there's nothing to suggest she's actually back yet, and it wouldn't give her full powers. Based on the swords, Tessah may be gaining power (and feeding Arsa power) the more her imbued gear is used too.

There are a lot of open questions.
 

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I was enjoying the game for the first time until that absolutely unbelievable crash out at the end of chapter 1, what the fuck was that dude lol so jarring.

Still like the game btw it just took me out of my emersion for a second lol.
 
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Well, Technically it is the dark ones that absorb other dark ones so I would assume that the dark one that absorbs the other dark one would be the one to get the abilities if they do actually transfer. In the last few chapters it has been Cia almost universally that has been absorbing the dark ones of defeated companions (on the road in France). Nael said that she was almost on the level of a primodial when the MC first met her so I am personally hoping that absorbing dark ones will push her over into being a primodial herself. Anyway, thats nether here nor there. As for the flight, you could honestly look at it either way. If the ability to fly was a special ability and they do transfer then it makes sense that Noel got the pocket dimension power. If they don't transfer then it is likely that something special is going on with Noel. Noel is sort of in a weird position right now anyway. She was a ferel that satiated her hunger through the MC. That means she is sort of in the same position now that Eda was before Nael bound her to the pact again. By the end, I have absolutely no doubt that Noel will either catch up to, or compleetley overtake her sister when it comes to power level. The game has already been dropping hints that it is headed in that direction.
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Some thoughts about the hightlighted parts:

Im thinking what were watching is in truth more of the story of Noel than the story of our MC.

So, hear me out:

I mentioned already earlier how i think everything (95%) of what happened so far is designed by Nael like that.

I imagine she became a long long time ago aware that her power would soon be too much to stay at this plane and that she would need a successor. She deemed non of the primordials worthy.

So she created Noel, a part/copy of herself but uncompromised by hard decisions, tragedys, experience and so on. She did something similar when she created the pact which enforces that dark ones "forget" (the memorys get suppressed) the tragedys of their past "life's" when their companion dies.

Nael started to exist and from Nael's pov shes simply perfect, herself but way better, purer, what she could have been without all the responsibilitys and tragedys.

So Noel was perfect in every sense, but she was not what Nael needed.

She was literally TOO pure for the role as Nael's succeccor, too good and perfect for a role which requires sacrifices and hard decisions.

Nael's power grew more and more, she was more than a primordial already and supposed to leave the plane. I dont think she stayed out of selfish reasons. She stayed because of Noel.

She kinda procrastinated, suppressed her own powerlevel to be able to stay and to be able to let Noel stay her perfect pure sister. Like that she was able to give Noel what she would have wanted for her own life, at least temporary, a sacrifice which we see repeated in the story by gabriel for his brother.

Nael was aware that Noel would need to change/develop at some point in time but she doesnt want a submissive servant like all the other primordials, she wants a equal sister and successor so Noel would need to want to change herself.

Which leads me to the point (sorry for wall of text): Nael needed Noel exactly at the point she is now, free and not bound to the pact anymore which could give possibilitys for incredible development and own will. But will lead to Noel uninveteablely experiencing tragedy and changing. Becoming more like Nael which is needed but not wanted.

I think Nael waited and needed a rulebreaker. MC was probably/maybe chosen because she became aware of him due to gabriels ability.

The MC was the bait. Something which Noel finally could want for herself.

She did let them bond in the first place, let them establish a connection but it was 100% necessary to break their bond. It was needed to enable Nael to gain free will on her own desire and by her own ability and to prove (for Noel and the MC) that their love is real and not created by the bond.


I think Ciarara will become the next primordial too. And in this case - again - i think Nael did send Cia deliberatly away when they had their private talk. It was useless as Cia is bond to them anyway and aware of it.

It was MEANT to make Cia insignificant but with the intention to push Cia's desire to become MORE, more important, more powerful and in the end a primordial.

yeah anyway, just my 2 cents :BootyTime:

Tessah's power resides in Arsa. Nael offers Emma (via Clara and Arsa) a fix for her current situation, which we haven't played out. So she doesn't exist in the 'main' realm of the game.

When she was in Nael's realm, for the new primordial meeting/summoning, she was brought there by Nael. We don't know how powerful she was, or wasn't, at the time, but Arsa makes a comment in that meeting about possibly being the most powerful after Nael.

If she exists in Nael's realm (as I think was said?), Tessah may be able to reach out via her pearl (like Nael did), but there's nothing to suggest she's actually back yet, and it wouldn't give her full powers. Based on the swords, Tessah may be gaining power (and feeding Arsa power) the more her imbued gear is used too.

There are a lot of open questions.
I dont think Tessah's full power resides in Arsa, not even on the mortal plane or however its called.

Arsa still thinks shes weaker than Tessah when they meet or at least nor sure shes stronger (lets be real, arsa would gloat way more if she would think shes stronger herself) than tessah after she absorbed her. So i think its just a part of their powers, maybe depends from case to case.

Wouldnt be surprise when our rulebreaker just always takes 100% lol

The swords and Tessahs imbued stuff dont work the same, thats why claire has hired the swordy primordial despite still having access to tessahs enchanted items. Swords/items stealing power is a "new" development and unique to only one dark one.

We simply dont know if tessah could be back yet, but from the pov from the high order it would be stupid to delete tessah instead of just wiping her memorys and giving her a new companion (like claire herself *cough*)
 
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Some thoughts about the hightlighted parts:

Im thinking what were watching is in truth more of the story of Noel than the story of our MC.

So, hear me out:

I mentioned already earlier how i think everything (95%) of what happened so far is designed by Nael like that.

I imagine she became a long long time ago aware that her power would soon be too much to stay at this plane and that she would need a successor. She deemed non of the primordials worthy.

So she created Noel, a part/copy of herself but uncompromised by hard decisions, tragedys, experience and so on. She did something similar when she created the pact which enforces that dark ones "forget" (the memorys get suppressed) the tragedys of their past "life's" when their companion dies.

Nael started to exist and from Nael's pov shes simply perfect, herself but way better, purer, what she could have been without all the responsibilitys and tragedys.

So Noel was perfect in every sense, but she was not what Nael needed.

She was literally TOO pure for the role as Nael's succeccor, too good and perfect for a role which requires sacrifices and hard decisions.

Nael's power grew more and more, she was more than a primordial already and supposed to leave the plane. I dont think she stayed out of selfish reasons. She stayed because of Noel.

She kinda procrastinated, suppressed her own powerlevel to be able to stay and to be able to let Noel stay her perfect pure sister. Like that she was able to give Noel what she would have wanted for her own life, at least temporary, a sacrifice which we see repeated in the story by gabriel for his brother.

Nael was aware that Noel would need to change/develop at some point in time but she doesnt want a submissive servant like all the other primordials, she wants a equal sister and successor so Noel would need to want to change herself.

Which leads me to the point (sorry for wall of text): Nael needed Noel exactly at the point she is now, free and not bound to the pact anymore which could give possibilitys for incredible development and own will. But will lead to Noel uninveteablely experiencing tragedy and changing. Becoming more like Nael which is needed but not wanted.

I think Nael waited and needed a rulebreaker. MC was probably/maybe chosen because she became aware of him due to gabriels ability.

The MC was the bait. Something which Noel finally could want for herself.

She did let them bond in the first place, let them establish a connection but it was 100% necessary to break their bond. It was needed to enable Nael to gain free will on her own desire and by her own ability and to prove (for Noel and the MC) that their love is real and not created by the bond.


I think Ciarara will become the next primordial too. And in this case - again - i think Nael did send Cia deliberatly away when they had their private talk. It was useless as Cia is bond to them anyway and aware of it.

It was MEANT to make Cia insignificant but with the intention to push Cia's desire to become MORE, more important, more powerful and in the end a primordial.

yeah anyway, just my 2 cents :BootyTime:
I don't think the story is mostly about Noel, it is really about the MC and his companions, Noel being the cheif among them of course. I'm also not sure about Noel changing her personality to closer resemble Nael. In fact, I'm convinced that is the origional reason that Nael chose to give Noel every single one of her positive personality traits when Noel was created (down to the positive personality trait of liking to drink tea). Imagine you are an all powerful being and a decision you are about to make will split yourself. You know that you will gain all of your basically infinite strength back and you know that by splitting yourself you will also be making another all powerful being. It would make sence that you give that new creation as many positive personallity traits as possible because the last thing you would want is to create a power hungry despot with as much power as you. That's why I believe Nael gave Noel all of her positive personality traits, because she wanted to make absolutely sure that the being she created is a benovelent one and not some evil tiranical overlord willing to wipe out the universe because she stubbed her toe. I kind of think the MC is important in this situation because he is starting to play the role of the bad cop since he was semi-bound to Nael. The game has been recognizing that the MC has changed, became colder, more calculating, and more Nael like (both when the MC fought the two companions in chapter ten at the High Order headquarters and when he had Noel break the spell Ren put over Clara). It is actually what is going to make them a perfect team. She is the kind, benovelent, pure, and patient influence and he is the rash, hot headed, impatient, and much less kind influence. They are two necessary sides of the same coin and that fact is what makes them perfect together. It seems like the big change that Nael is wanting to see within Noel is an increase in cofidence, self pride, and a willingness to stand up for herself. Noel displayed the beginings of all of those traits when she stood up to her sister for threatening to break the bond between herself and the MC and it obviously pleased Nael to see that change.

Also, the more I think about what you have said, the more it has given me a insight. I don't personally believe that Nael has developed more power over time, at least in no significan way. After all, gaining more power on top of basically infinite power is meaningless. I say that because when the MC and Clara go to meet Nael and and they talk about the....... well I won't explicitely say what they talk about here because that is a huge spoiler and I wouldn't want to ruin to story for anyone, but you know what they talk about. Anyway, when they talk about that which shall not be named, Nael says that it is a dark one that is not crated by her. That means that Nael is the creater of every single dark one. During the Gabe death bad ending and the begining of chapter 10, we literally see Nael create the world. I say all of that because Sam is somehow unaware of Nael's power level. That means that Sam can not be the person that Nael is speaking with when she recreates the world in the Gabe death bad ending. If that was Sam, he would know the extent of her power. That means that Sam had to have been created sometime later and that there is indeed someone else who is as fundimental to the universe as Nael because only Nael and that unknown entity are left after she destroys the universe, someone even Nael can't get rid of lol.

I will say that I believe you are absolutely right about Nael planning everything that has happened. It is obvious that she has a plan for some kind of predetermined outcome. My big question is, did she plan for Amy to die? If not, that whole situation is kind of her fault. She is the one that pushed the MC into plotting against the Horsemen to get Cia (I am personally glad he did but still). The MC's original thought was to go get Emma to help which makes much more sense to me and would result in basically no deaths and no new enermies. She claims she was afraid that Arsa would do something bad to Noel but Emma is the one in charge in that situation and Emma would have definitely been able to keep Arsa under control. If the MC had followed his plan, he never would have fought with the Horsemen and Amy would not have died. So, was the origional plan Nael had for the MC to bond to Cia and Amy was a total accident or was that intentional to have the MC bonded to Amy as well as Cia?
 
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I don't think the story is mostly about Noel, it is really about the MC and his companions, Noel being the cheif among them of course. I'm also not sure about Noel changing her personality to closer resemble Nael. In fact, I'm convinced that is the origional reason that Nael chose to give Noel every single one of her positive personality traits when Noel was created (down to the positive personality trait of liking to drink tea). Imagine you are an all powerful being and a decision you are about to make will split yourself. You know that you will gain all of your basically infinite strength back and you know that by splitting yourself you will also be making another all powerful being. It would make sence that you give that new creation as many positive personallity traits as possible because the last thing you would want is to create a power hungry despot with as much power as you. That's why I believe Nael gave Noel all of her positive personality traits, because she wanted to make absolutely sure that the being she created is a benovelent one and not some evil tiranical overlord willing to wipe out the universe because she stubbed her toe. I kind of think the MC is important in this situation because he is starting to play the role of the bad cop since he was semi-bound to Nael. The game has been recognizing that the MC has changed, became colder, more calculating, and more Nael like (both when the MC fought the two companions in chapter ten at the High Order headquarters and when he had Noel break the spell Ren put over Clara). It is actually what is going to make them a perfect team. She is the kind, benovelent, pure, and patient influence and he is the rash, hot headed, impatient, and much less kind influence. They are two necessary sides of the same coin and that fact is what makes them perfect together. It seems like the big change that Nael is wanting to see within Noel is an increase in cofidence, self pride, and a willingness to stand up for herself. Noel displayed the beginings of all of those traits when she stood up to her sister for threatening to break the bond between herself and the MC and it obviously pleased Nael to see that change.
Yeez buddy, do me a favor and use a paragraph or two in the future :LOL: :geek:

MC became more calculated and cool which is the opposite of your stated traits like hot headed, impatient and rash.

And i dont think that was Nael's influence (at least not in some kind of magic/powers way) other than just talks with her.

But MC was always like that, theres a thrid scene regarding that, when the High order attacks the brotherhood outlook when he lets Blake kill the high order soldiers without doing something to not get her in trouble. He even thinks himself afterwards "Was i always this cold and calculated?" but i dont think its a new development.

Noel saw this part of the very beginning and considering he killed his dad, im pretty sure thats simply the dark part of our MC which may be hidden/suppressed before he met Noel as he was a depressed mess anyway. But i think its closer to his real self than a new character development.

Also, the more I think about what you have said, the more it has given me a insight. I don't personally believe that Nael has developed more power over time, at least in no significan way. After all, gaining more power on top of basically infinite power is meaningless. I say that because when the MC and Clara go to meet Nael and and they talk about the....... well I won't explicitely say what they talk about here because that is a huge spoiler and I wouldn't want to ruin to story for anyone, but you know what they talk about. Anyway, when they talk about that which shall not be named, Nael says that it is a dark one that is not crated by her. That means that Nael is the creater of every single dark one. During the Gabe death bad ending and the begining of chapter 10, we literally see Nael create the world. I say all of that because Sam is somehow unaware of Nael's power level. That means that Sam can not be the person that Nael is speaking with when she recreates the world in the Gabe death bad ending. If that was Sam, he would know the extent of her power. That means that Sam had to have been created sometime later and that there is indeed someone else who is as fundimental to the universe as Nael because only Nael and that unknown entity are left after she destroys the universe, someone even Nael can't get rid of lol.
I think they all (would) develop more and more power over time just that most dark ones cant because of the pact.

I see it like that (random names/examples):

- Primordial (lowest "divine being)
- Angel
- God
- UBERgod
- UBERUBERGOD

and so on lol. Like when Nael achieved the status of an angel she should have left the mortal plane but she stayed and did hide her strenght. Sam could very well be a UBERgod and more powerfull than 99,99% of all beings but Nael is one (or multiple) stage above this already. I dont think Nael and Samuel are the only powerful beings "up there".

And btw. i dont think destorying earth did anything to samuel or any other beings not only living on earth


I will say that I believe you are absolutely right about Nael planning everything that has happened. It is obvious that she has a plan for some kind of predetermined outcome. My big question is, did she plan for Amy to die? If not, that whole situation is kind of her fault. She is the one that pushed the MC into plotting against the Horsemen to get Cia (I am personally glad he did but still). The MC's original thought was to go get Emma to help which makes much more sense to me and would result in basically no deaths and no new enermies. She claims she was afraid that Arsa would do something bad to Noel but Emma is the one in charge in that situation and Emma would have definitely been able to keep Arsa under control. If the MC had followed his plan, he never would have fought with the Horsemen and Amy would not have died. So, was the origional plan Nael had for the MC to bond to Cia and Amy was a total accident or was that intentional to have the MC bonded to Amy as well as Cia?
I dont think she specifically planned for amy to die or bothered about the "small" details BUT i think experiencing tragedy and loss is something which both MC and Noel have to "learn" during their journey and partially necessary.

Thats why (i think) she didnt stopped the fight against Matt earlier, MC and Noel have to be able to tackle their challanges partially on their own without Nael swooping in.

Cia was/is intended by Nael and considered important/needed (makes her making her feeling insignificant more funny), Nael has chosen her for a reason which we may not be fully aware yet.

Following the Emma plan, its unsure if MC would have even found/reached Noel in time without Cia and wouldnt he just have died when he approached Noel without amys abilitys? Second part makes me think Amy was kinda intended too just not the pregnancy? Or Nael would have given the regen power to Cia? Not sure if she can do that.
 

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Yeez buddy, do me a favor and use a paragraph or two in the future :LOL: :geek:

MC became more calculated and cool which is the opposite of your stated traits like hot headed, impatient and rash.

And i dont think that was Nael's influence (at least not in some kind of magic/powers way) other than just talks with her.

But MC was always like that, theres a thrid scene regarding that, when the High order attacks the brotherhood outlook when he lets Blake kill the high order soldiers without doing something to not get her in trouble. He even thinks himself afterwards "Was i always this cold and calculated?" but i dont think its a new development.



I think they all (would) develop more and more power over time just that most dark ones cant because of the pact.

I see it like that (random names/examples):

- Primordial (lowest "divine being)
- Angel
- God
- UBERgod
- UBERUBERGOD

and so on lol. Like when Nael achieved the status of an angel she should have left the mortal plane but she stayed and did hide her strenght. Sam could very well be a UBERgod and more powerfull than 99,99% of all beings but Nael is one (or multiple) stage above this already. I dont think Nael and Samuel are the only powerful beings "up there".

And btw. i dont think destorying earth did anything to samuel or any other beings not only living on earth




I dont think she specifically planned for amy to die or bothered about the "small" details BUT i think experiencing tragedy and loss is something which both MC and Noel have to "learn" during their journey and partially necessary.

Thats why (i think) she didnt stopped the fight against Matt earlier, MC and Noel have to be able to tackle their challanges partially on their own without Nael swooping in.

Cia was/is intended by Nael and considered important/needed (makes her making her feeling insignificant more funny), Nael has chosen her for a reason which we may not be fully aware yet.

Following the Emma plan, its unsure if MC would have even found/reached Noel in time without Cia and wouldnt he just have died when he approached Noel without amys abilitys? Second part makes me think Amy was kinda intended too just not the pregnancy? Or Nael would have given the regen power to Cia? Not sure if she can do that.
I apologize, I was just trying to minimize my vertical page useage haha. You are right, I used the wrong personality traits. Cold and calculating would have worked much better. My point was just that the MC himself has developed more of Nael's negative personality traits like that cold calculating nature you described. That development kind of works well with Noel's kind nature. It makes them a very good pair. I will link in a tab at the bottem instances where the game points that change out and directly relates it to Nael. It is certaintly a new development because in both scenes I will post, it remarks how the MC has changed. I also posted the scene you refered to as well. I am not sure about Nael's influence, whether having the pearl is like having a bond or if it was just her influenceing him by spending time together.

As for the classifications, I am not sure myself. My only point with that rant was that it makes no sense for Sam to be the person she is speaking with during that bad ending. If that person was Sam, he would be aware that Nael has the power to both destroy and remake existance at will. In fact, for the same reason, it stands to reason that Sam is also destroyed when Nael destroys the universe each time. If Sam did not get destroyed when she destroys the universe then Sam would already be aware that Nael is not what she is claiming to be. Think of all the times Nael remakes the universe if you make the wrong choice. She remakes the universe if you choose to fight Matt during that first confrintation. She remakes the universe if you choose to not sleep with Amy because you end up losing the fight with Three. She remakes the universe if Gabe dies. She remakes the universe if you choose england. Lastly, she remakes the universe on that flight back to the States. If Sam wasn't erased each time as well, he would 100% be aware of what Nael is capible of, but he is not aware before the drama with Tessah and even right up until the end of chapter 10 he isn't fully aware.

As for Emma and Arsa, I could see there being difficulity finding her. I was also incorrect on exactly how the plan to take Cia went down. I went back and read it again and our MC went along with the plan of taking Cia. For some reason I had it in my head that the MC wanted to use Arsa to find Noel but he actually wanted Emma and Arsa's help with taking down One. So, while Nael did come up with the plan, the MC is just as guilty for happily going along with it. I will say though that the High Order really did let the MC down in this situation. They have bases all over the world and Clare said that they could tune their instruments to find Noel and during the entire seperation the did absolutely nothing to help.

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are there any plans for a patch to fix up the english or if it gets any better in the later chapters? played a bit so far and it seems interesting but the english makes it hard for me to get into it.
 
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are there any plans for a patch to fix up the english or if it gets any better in the later chapters? played a bit so far and it seems interesting but the english makes it hard for me to get into it.
It gets much better the farther you get. It is really just the first few chapters that are rough on the grammer. As for a fix for the grammer, the developer said not long ago that he has no plans as of right now to fix the first season's grammer. That could have changed by now but I'm not sure. I think he is just mostly focusing on putting out the new updates. My advice would be to hang in there. This novel has one of the best storylines out there and it is definitely worth powering through the first few chapters with rough grammer.
 
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Just played the game till Chapter 4.MC has left Claire's house in search of Noel. So does that mean we will not see Clara anymore?
 
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Wow, this game really surprised me with how good it ended up being. At the start of the game, up until the end of Act 1, I thought the game was just okay. I think that that was partially because most of the girls didn't really appeal strongly to me. My favorite was probably Amy, so I was actually pretty disappointed when Arsa chose to be with Emma instead. By the end of act, I enjoyed the story and characters for the most part, but it didn't really feel like anything special. After Noel was taken, I was sure that the rest of the squad was going to go on an adventure together to get her back, while meeting new friends and getting into Lewd shenanigans. I was actually incredibly happy to be wrong.

I really loved how the MC decides to leave and go out on his own at the start of Act 2. In general, I really liked how the status quo shifted. The fact that the group we spent our time with up to this point sorta just went their separate ways, was interesting to me. And when Nael showed up and also introduced the goal of getting Noel back and stealing the Horseman's Dark One, I was in. Ciarara was probably my favorite design up to this point, so the idea that she was going to potentially become the MC's Dark One, at least for some time, had me invested. Then Amy showed up again, (On an unrelated note, was it mentioned that she was coming before she shows up? Maybe I speedread and missed it, but I was pretty confused when she showed up.)

While I was happy to see Amy again, I was now sure that Amy would end up being the one to get Ciarara, which was cool that she would be involved, but also disappointing because I was hoping that the MC would get her. As the plot progressed and it became more clear how much danger Amy was in, I became more and more sure that that's where things were going. Even after she died, I was sure that the only way that they were going to be able to save her, was to have Ciarara bond with her. What actually ended up happening completely blew my expectations out of the water. It had already been mentioned that the MC was a rule breaker, but I still wasn't expecting it up until the point where Ciarara forcefully jumped into his body a second time.

The dynamic of the MC with Amy and Ciara as his Dark Ones was really enjoyable. And it probably made the Europe section, my favorite part of the game. It was great to learn about what Amy can do now that she's a Dark One and what Ciarara can do that made her someone that Nael found interesting, and it was fun to see how they contrast and bounce off each other. In the background, it was also cool to find out more about what the other primordials were up to in the background (though I could have sworn that they made it sound like Dia's Companion was unknown or unawakened, but we later find out that he already fought with Az in the past).

I wonder what is going to happen with Amy and her family. There's absolutely no way to explain that you were murdered and turned into an immortal being by god. Also wonder how the pregnancy will work. If the baby is a Dark One, will it just come out fully developed or will it just age normally? I really liked the part where Ciarara revealed her feelings of inferiority. I mean, it makes sense when a bond with a Companion is supposed to be this super special thing and she has to share it with 2 of the strongest beings in their species, who also already had prior relationships with him. Now I'm really hoping that she also somehow becomes a Primordial. It would also be interesting if Nael somehow granted her the power because then she would have created one Primodial from herself, one from a human, and one from a Dark One.

I don't have a whole lot else to say. Gabriel is awesome but I don't know why his nickname is Gab and not Gabe. It's fucked up what's happening to him and I can't wait to see what Nael does in response. It was good to finally get to confront Claire and it seems like we reached an understanding, but I'm curious to see how everything going on between Clara and Ren will affect that. Anyway, this game was actually really great and I'm looking forward to the next chapter!
 

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Wow, this game really surprised me with how good it ended up being. At the start of the game, up until the end of Act 1, I thought the game was just okay. I think that that was partially because most of the girls didn't really appeal strongly to me. My favorite was probably Amy, so I was actually pretty disappointed when Arsa chose to be with Emma instead. By the end of act, I enjoyed the story and characters for the most part, but it didn't really feel like anything special. After Noel was taken, I was sure that the rest of the squad was going to go on an adventure together to get her back, while meeting new friends and getting into Lewd shenanigans. I was actually incredibly happy to be wrong.

I really loved how the MC decides to leave and go out on his own at the start of Act 2. In general, I really liked how the status quo shifted. The fact that the group we spent our time with up to this point sorta just went their separate ways, was interesting to me. And when Nael showed up and also introduced the goal of getting Noel back and stealing the Horseman's Dark One, I was in. Ciarara was probably my favorite design up to this point, so the idea that she was going to potentially become the MC's Dark One, at least for some time, had me invested. Then Amy showed up again, (On an unrelated note, was it mentioned that she was coming before she shows up? Maybe I speedread and missed it, but I was pretty confused when she showed up.)

While I was happy to see Amy again, I was now sure that Amy would end up being the one to get Ciarara, which was cool that she would be involved, but also disappointing because I was hoping that the MC would get her. As the plot progressed and it became more clear how much danger Amy was in, I became more and more sure that that's where things were going. Even after she died, I was sure that the only way that they were going to be able to save her, was to have Ciarara bond with her. What actually ended up happening completely blew my expectations out of the water. It had already been mentioned that the MC was a rule breaker, but I still wasn't expecting it up until the point where Ciarara forcefully jumped into his body a second time.

The dynamic of the MC with Amy and Ciara as his Dark Ones was really enjoyable. And it probably made the Europe section, my favorite part of the game. It was great to learn about what Amy can do now that she's a Dark One and what Ciarara can do that made her someone that Nael found interesting, and it was fun to see how they contrast and bounce off each other. In the background, it was also cool to find out more about what the other primordials were up to in the background (though I could have sworn that they made it sound like Dia's Companion was unknown or unawakened, but we later find out that he already fought with Az in the past).

I wonder what is going to happen with Amy and her family. There's absolutely no way to explain that you were murdered and turned into an immortal being by god. Also wonder how the pregnancy will work. If the baby is a Dark One, will it just come out fully developed or will it just age normally? I really liked the part where Ciarara revealed her feelings of inferiority. I mean, it makes sense when a bond with a Companion is supposed to be this super special thing and she has to share it with 2 of the strongest beings in their species, who also already had prior relationships with him. Now I'm really hoping that she also somehow becomes a Primordial. It would also be interesting if Nael somehow granted her the power because then she would have created one Primodial from herself, one from a human, and one from a Dark One.

I don't have a whole lot else to say. Gabriel is awesome but I don't know why his nickname is Gab and not Gabe. It's fucked up what's happening to him and I can't wait to see what Nael does in response. It was good to finally get to confront Claire and it seems like we reached an understanding, but I'm curious to see how everything going on between Clara and Ren will affect that. Anyway, this game was actually really great and I'm looking forward to the next chapter!
Awesome writeup there are just t3-5 paragragps about Noel missing! You dont like her or what? :mad::illuminati:
 
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Awesome writeup there are just t3-5 paragragps about Noel missing! You dont like her or what? :mad::illuminati:
Lol, Noel is great too. I just didn't have a whole lot to say about her. I will say that it is interesting that Nael seems to have more planned for her than she lets on. They recently started dropping hints that her getting separated at the beginning of the game may have been planned. I wonder if she always planned for the MC to become her companion or if that was just a happy coincidence. IIRC, she also was happy when Noel started defying her or started thinking about things on her own. I wonder if it has to do with her no longer being allowed in their universe. My thought is that she wants her to become completely independent from her and maybe become the new first Primordial.
 

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Lol, Noel is great too. I just didn't have a whole lot to say about her. I will say that it is interesting that Nael seems to have more planned for her than she lets on. They recently started dropping hints that her getting separated at the beginning of the game may have been planned. I wonder if she always planned for the MC to become her companion or if that was just a happy coincidence. IIRC, she also was happy when Noel started defying her or started thinking about things on her own. I wonder if it has to do with her no longer being allowed in their universe. My thought is that she wants her to become completely independent from her and maybe become the new first Primordial.
Hehe, we discussed that topic about Nael and her plans a lot on the last pages.

I believe she designed most things - like mc and noel bonding, the seperation, bonding again and Noel reaching a state where she isnt bound to the pact anymore - so far in the story and that Noel is prepared to be Naels successor so similar to yours.

The first hint we get is that the MC's backpack is suddenly with him in the appartment after the first bonding with Noel which he left in the alley were Nael and Arsa "fought" (i doubt Arsa would ever try to really fight Noel even in a feral state, this was a setup too).

I doubt Noel took the backpack as she wasnt even aware of the backpack so it would have been gabriel or Nael.

Im not 100% convinced if Gabriel knew from the very beginning or if Nael just told him later on. When they visited the MC/Klara in their hideout, Gabriel was possibly still unaware while Nael knew the whole time and just played a charade (maybe gabriel was just playing too tho).

Considering that Gabriel rescued/took care of MC after he bonded with Nael, its safe to assume that Nael was already aware of MC and at least Gabriels rulebreaker status so this may did lead to her investigating the MCs potential more.

Pretty sure it has to do with Nael's ascension even tho there seems to be noone able to enfore it on her, she seems to be aware/agree with the idea that she has to leave earth ... just not when gabriel is in danger :LOL:

I figured that she needs the MC to make Noel independent from her, give her something she wants for herself (as Noel is so selfless) and she will fight for to awaken her more fiery nature.
 

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This might be a surprise... don't click on the spoiler if you don't want to ruin the moment. Are you sure? Really sure??? She'll show up later.
HI, is that top signature clip from a game or an animator? and if you know, could you tell me the name? seems somewhat good..
 
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