Recommending Complete Netorase & Sharing Games Master List

[Logan1377]

I also tried to get into it for the sharing and also came to the same result, the amount of pointless grind is not worth it. I don't think I have played a game yet that has sandbox elements to it that I didn't hate and would just think "why couldn't this be a regular VN with choices?"

I'm totally the opposite. The sandbox format, with being able to choose what I do in which order, makes the entire process so much more enjoyable for me, and gives me a sense of satisfaction even if there's really only one path, and its only the order that the player has any control over.

Give me a map, or at least a list of characters to "go to", character cards so I can always see their status, what I've done with them, and potential quest info, and I'm so much happier than a one directional VN. Especially if there are repeatable scenes that I can go back to as I like.

The problem is that some devs seem to want to make it difficult, challenging, or even frustrating for reasons beyond my understanding, and that I don't like. But when its just progressing through the sandbox story at my own pace, that's ideal. Especially if there's some sort of light corruption element where the women are gradually made more sexy or lewder.

 

[Axel34]

I'm totally the opposite. The sandbox format, with being able to choose what I do in which order, makes the entire process so much more enjoyable for me, and gives me a sense of satisfaction even if there's really only one path, and its only the order that the player has any control over.

Give me a map, or at least a list of characters to "go to", character cards so I can always see their status, what I've done with them, and potential quest info, and I'm so much happier than a one directional VN. Especially if there are repeatable scenes that I can go back to as I like.

I'm totally on your side! But I understand why people are skeptical about sandbox in porn games.

Make a good "sandbox" game much more harder and resource consuming than a linear format game. Developers often overdo with grinding. Grinding is not always bad decision in game design sense, but it should be fun, and even a fun grinding may get player tired, so then should be possible to shorten it or skip it completely.
Good sandbox porn games are rare! My favorites are text-based, and they have almost no to little cuckold(-quean)/sharing content in them

 

[Red Eclipse]

I'm new into 3d netorase games.at first it was difficult to get use to the art but after playing a couple I got adjusted to it.
I played:
https://f95zone.to/threads/the-east-block-v0-4-1-bobbyboy-productions.180753/
https://f95zone.to/threads/between-worlds-v0-1-6-p3-roleplayer.129383/
https://f95zone.to/threads/girlfriend-v0-45-by-paola.203900/
https://f95zone.to/threads/perfect-housewife-v2404-k4soft.131108/
Can someone recommend more games like this without ntr if possible.

 

[Aaraknid]

I'm new into 3d netorase games.at first it was difficult to get use to the art but after playing a couple I got adjusted to it.
I played:
https://f95zone.to/threads/the-east-block-v0-4-1-bobbyboy-productions.180753/
https://f95zone.to/threads/between-worlds-v0-1-6-p3-roleplayer.129383/
https://f95zone.to/threads/girlfriend-v0-45-by-paola.203900/
https://f95zone.to/threads/perfect-housewife-v2404-k4soft.131108/
Can someone recommend more games like this without ntr if possible.

Exciting Games
https://f95zone.to/threads/exciting-games-ep-16-part-2-guter-reiter.65740/

 

[juanitos]

at this Rate if of How AI has been improving as you said it will be so much easier for Devs to just use AI for art and use Ai to help with code , it will reduce the dev time which leads to more content in less time , but the question is will this help improve the making of new other games with different kinks and stuff or it will be blood by harem stupid games like always ?

I mean... the majority of the people have pretty vanilla kinks, so of course the mass produce porn games will be those ones, that's beyond our control or the AI development.

 

[juanitos]

I'm totally on your side! But I understand why people are skeptical about sandbox in porn games.

Make a good "sandbox" game much more harder and resource consuming than a linear format game. Developers often overdo with grinding. Grinding is not always bad decision in game design sense, but it should be fun, and even a fun grinding may get player tired, so then should be possible to shorten it or skip it completely.
Good sandbox porn games are rare! My favorites are text-based, and they have almost no to little cuckold(-quean)/sharing content in them

Yeah, it's 10 times easier to fuck up a Sandbox game, because you actually need game development skill to do it well. With "Game development" skills I'm talking about knowing what makes a game attractive, like, players bias, understanding what makes a mechanic annoying and what not, what feels good, all this perception cues you need to consider when making a game. In a VN style game you just need to put it all together, some music and sound effects here and there, having a decent UI (That you can just use the renpy one and make some tweaks... it just works lol) and of course a decent story and motif, in our case the motif being netorase.

 

[Logan1377]

I'm totally on your side! But I understand why people are skeptical about sandbox in porn games.

Make a good "sandbox" game much more harder and resource consuming than a linear format game. Developers often overdo with grinding. Grinding is not always bad decision in game design sense, but it should be fun, and even a fun grinding may get player tired, so then should be possible to shorten it or skip it completely.
Good sandbox porn games are rare! My favorites are text-based, and they have almost no to little cuckold(-quean)/sharing content in them

I don't know a whole lot about game development, but from what's out there to be played, it seems like its easier to build a solid sandbox game using Honey Select than most of the others. I play or have played a few that started out kind of rough and simplistic, but got really, really good as time went on. I know that HS isn't for everyone, but I like it when done properly. There can be a big variation in quality, but that's certainly true with Daz and other Western engines as well.

Making a top quality sandbox game using a top end Western engine seems to be the absolute top of the mountain, and it takes a group of people who really know what they're doing to pull it off. But I'll take a pretty well made game that offers a ton of content any day.

 

[MTL_Enjoyer]

I'm totally on your side! But I understand why people are skeptical about sandbox in porn games.

Make a good "sandbox" game much more harder and resource consuming than a linear format game. Developers often overdo with grinding. Grinding is not always bad decision in game design sense, but it should be fun, and even a fun grinding may get player tired, so then should be possible to shorten it or skip it completely.
Good sandbox porn games are rare! My favorites are text-based, and they have almost no to little cuckold(-quean)/sharing content in them

Yeah that's why Mijishi games are great.
Like having a netorase game with a non-linear approach, where you the player not necesarily decide directly but can influence. And this influence translates into different outcomes.
Like give your wife a bottle of wine.
Nothing happens.
Give your wife a bottle of wine, with the side quest "helping sailors relief themselves" completed, at least 200 reputation with the sailor faction, and wife "slutty" or "netorase" score of 80 out of 200.
Now when you return home in the night from your quest, wife is not there, MC decides to make a brief comment but nothing else.
You can choose between stay at home or decide and investigate. If you stay at home for the night wife wakes up next to MC in the morning, but extrangely enough she didn't change clothes and she looks all disheveled, slightly exposing her cleavage. And MC comments that her breath smells like cheap rum, like the one you remember they sell at the inn close to the harbor.

Now you may decide to investigate instead, because you remember that comment the Chief Sailor made to you "thanks for helping us all, next time you two can come and drink all night after our next travel! ". You decide to leave the house, directly to the harbor district, where the INN is located. Everything seems in silence, until you approach the tents where sailors usually sleep between travels. You hear a slurping sound in one of the tents, it gets more intense the more you approach, and once you are around 6 metters close you can finally see a text of dialog:
> Sailor: "Hehe, that's a good blowjob missy, not even the whores they send to our ship give head like you"
> Wife: "(slurp, slurp) Ahhahh Thank you, i've had a lot of practice after all (drunk sound)"
> Sailor: "It may seem so, now keep going, ahhh"
> Sailor 2: "Hey man, more than 10 minutes already passed , it should be my turn now!"
> Sailor: "Okay okay, now girl suck this other guy after i cum, remember you lost the bet and now you have to serve us all, hehe"
> Wife: " (slurp, slurp) Ooo, okay... "
> Sailor 2: " And wash your mouth with rum before sucking my dick, i don't want to get a disease from this other dipshit"
> Sailor: "Hey, that shit is a myth..."
(Then more dialog happens, you see a simple sprite animation of wife giving head, untill you are very close to the action, and finally can see what is happening).

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

I'm totally the opposite. The sandbox format, with being able to choose what I do in which order, makes the entire process so much more enjoyable for me, and gives me a sense of satisfaction even if there's really only one path, and its only the order that the player has any control over.

Give me a map, or at least a list of characters to "go to", character cards so I can always see their status, what I've done with them, and potential quest info, and I'm so much happier than a one directional VN. Especially if there are repeatable scenes that I can go back to as I like.

The problem is that some devs seem to want to make it difficult, challenging, or even frustrating for reasons beyond my understanding, and that I don't like. But when its just progressing through the sandbox story at my own pace, that's ideal. Especially if there's some sort of light corruption element where the women are gradually made more sexy or lewder.

100% agree with this - imo the problem is people have been rightfully put off by bad grindy sandboxes.

The whole idea of a sandbox game is it should feel freeing - like on any given day you can do whatever you want to do, go to a park and talk to this girl, or go to a different location and talk to another girl, etc. Sadly most 'sandbox' described adult games are really just VNs with a sandbox ui, and that's the worst of both worlds, because it's more or less linear but you gotta hunt around for the next step.

Reminds me of college classes when they wanted us to re-create a report based on exact standards, yet wouldnt provide a template....it's like... you know what you want...no reason for the song and dance....

 

[SlapE]

I do NOT enjoy sandboxes myself, mainly for these reasons:

1.) Often times there's some level of grind involved.
2.) The devs coding them usually don't know what they're doing and unless you play events in a specific order, some events won't even make any sense. I've literally ran into cases where I'm interacting with a character I've never met before, but I'm doing an event that assumes you already know this character and has you acting like you already know them.
3.) Updates for games with the sandbox formula are usually underwhelming, usually only focusing on one or two characters, and events for them specifically, if you're lucky those events will involve other character, but not always. So sometimes you get updates focusing on characters you don't like, or you'll get content for characters you do like, but it's so short that it feels unsatisfying. So therefore if I'm playing a sandbox game I tend to wait for multiple updates to let content build.
4.) Repeatable sex scenes/events are the most lazy excuse for content in my opinion. They're just there to artificially extend the playtime of the game, and sometimes go hand-in-hand with the grinding to keep you playing for longer and making it seem like there's more content than there actually is.

Needless to say, I only bother with sandbox games if they're really high quality and have an interesting premise. I abhor the average sandbox game.

*Disclaimer* The only exception to the rule is RPG games made in RPG Maker, they are grindy often times too, but the style of game fits much better with the whole sandbox formula and goes hand-in-hand with your more traditional RPG games.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

*Disclaimer* The only exception to the rule is RPG games made in RPG Maker, there are grindy often times too, but the style of game fits much better with the whole sandbox formula and goes hand-in-hand with your more traditional RPG games.

I mean, you can just call ASWS by name

 

[Logan1377]

I do NOT enjoy sandboxes myself, mainly for these reasons:


4.) Repeatable sex scenes/events are the most lazy excuse for content in my opinion. They're just there to artificially extend the playtime of the game, and sometimes go hand-in-hand with the grinding to keep you playing for longer and making it seem like there's more content than there actually is.

Needless to say, I only bother with sandbox games if they're really high quality and have an interesting premise. I abhor the average sandbox game.

*Disclaimer* The only exception to the rule is RPG games made in RPG Maker, they are grindy often times too, but the style of game fits much better with the whole sandbox formula and goes hand-in-hand with your more traditional RPG games.

I respect your opinion, but on these ones we couldn't feel more differently, lol. I want my playtime to be extended, especially if its stuff that I find hot. Its honestly the same way that I play non-adult open world games in that regard. I like to mix it up, and go back and forth, getting a little bit of everything. I'll do one quest for the main story, then go have sex with a character I've been with before. Then go exploring if possible, find other content, and then go have sex with a different one. Then I'll do a side quest, and go find a third one to be with, etc. If the game allows that with enough content, its absolutely ideal, and for me, just triggers something in my brain that makes the experience all that hotter.

And I actually generally dislike RPGM games, unless they're really, really well made. I don't need to see my character moving around on the map. Honestly, if I can just click on rectangles that represent different places to go, that's good enough for me.

 

[Claudio83]

https://f95zone.to/threads/lesson-o...on-sex-glory-real-love-3d.17373/post-13750108

Now the game is good and there is no time limits (30 days) or wrong choices, i'm hoping that there will be regular updates and the savings will be compatible with new version... like a classic VN Ren'Py novel

 

[TheDisgracedOne]

AI is not ready to give us anything near masterpieces like deliverance gave us, but it's still far better then the large number of rpgm games with garbage tier art.

I hope that in some years we may have some good, ai made Daz-like renders and animations.

 

[DarknessDai]

https://f95zone.to/threads/lesson-o...on-sex-glory-real-love-3d.17373/post-13750108

Now the game is good and there is no time limits (30 days) or wrong choices, i'm hoping that there will be regular updates and the savings will be compatible with new version... like a classic VN Ren'Py novel

LOP games have very long way to go , they are more focused on sex scenes above story and the content their games always tend to over when the real shit starts , in This game i played little and i feel like nothing is connected , every girl has her tasks then you go home do stuff nothing connects or carrys to the game , you can enter in cuck task with the wife it only happen in the cabin then you go back they only acknowledge it via one scene then they act as if it never happen ( only if you go back to cabin to reply the event only ) so they have very long way to go

 

[ObamnaObamna]

Can you guys tell me some NTS games that have the following: male protag, humiliation/femdom (the harder the better), and corruption? It can be a combat rpg, a vn, or anything idc as long as it has those 3 and its nts (not ntr obv). Ik this thread has a list of games but they aren't tagged by genre so I just figured its fine to ask.

Also this isn't a hard requirement but ideally no swinging. Just nts/cuckery.

 

[juanitos]

AI is not ready to give us anything near masterpieces like deliverance gave us, but it's still far better then the large number of rpgm games with garbage tier art.

I hope that in some years we may have some good, ai made Daz-like renders and animations.

I'm no expert, I draw in my free time, and to be honest, there is some prompt warriors out there that make good shit, sometimes they confuse the hell out of me, so yeah, we might as well be near that point already, is just skill issue that people don't make good prompts or interesting art... I mean, if you don't know shit about art, the AI will give you something and you will swallow that shit, if you know about art, you will punish the hell of the AI until it gives you something decent lmao

 

[atrebor68]

I'm no expert, I draw in my free time, and to be honest, there is some prompt warriors out there that make good shit, sometimes they confuse the hell out of me, so yeah, we might as well be near that point already, is just skill issue that people don't make good prompts or interesting art... I mean, if you don't know shit about art, the AI will give you something and you will swallow that shit, if you know about art, you will punish the hell of the AI until it gives you something decent lmao

Sometimes I wrote some short erotic stories wth the help of AI, and AI needs a lot of inputs. But if well drived, AI is surprising for fantasy.

 

[juanitos]

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Nice, the dev is taking notes, hope he can work in all that without burning out, hope AI art helps with that. He should take notes from Wifeys dilemma, the game use somewhat the same system and he delivers a little update pretty much every month. Though, I don't know really if AI art helps with the workflow or makes it slower.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

https://f95zone.to/threads/lesson-o...on-sex-glory-real-love-3d.17373/post-13750108

Now the game is good and there is no time limits (30 days) or wrong choices, i'm hoping that there will be regular updates and the savings will be compatible with new version... like a classic VN Ren'Py novel

Unfortunately I believe it's still in early access and fairly incomplete, no?

I like the core Living with Temptation, though the devs definitely focus too much on the silly cabin stuff for sharing and ignore the Derek-Lisa pool meetup.

Still, I maintain on character model alone Lisa is like in the top 5 of all games in history.