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thegodofsky
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thegodofsky
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That is for the red oni demo that only goes through the tutorial/intro. The blue oni demo goes a fair bit further up through the 2nd oni of the game and you have to pay to play it. I'm willing to wait for the full release but I was hoping I wouldn't have to to see a bit more than just the intro so I'm asking here.
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Anyone else running into this error when trying to start the 2nd part demo for the new oni game?
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It seems the main issue is that some of the files, in multiple folders have incorrect names, instead of English names or Japanese names they have broken character names, I believe it has to do with my system not recognizing them properly, perhaps switching Locale or downloading Japanese language pack will solve it so ill try that first.
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Fixed it by downloading Bandizip and using Code page Japanese during extraction.
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It seems the main issue is that some of the files, in multiple folders have incorrect names, instead of English names or Japanese names they have broken character names, I believe it has to do with my system not recognizing them properly, perhaps switching Locale or downloading Japanese language pack will solve it so ill try that first.
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Fixed it by downloading Bandizip and using Code page Japanese during extraction.
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The game page on dlsite and the release date on October:
Also, the first demo has been updated and here's the details on the new contents:
◆One event added
◆Animation effects can be turned on or off
◆Message skip function added
◆Displays "What to do next"
◆Improved effects etc...
please note that the 2nd demo was not updated with these contents so if you want to experience it you have to download it here:
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Also, the first demo has been updated and here's the details on the new contents:
◆One event added
◆Animation effects can be turned on or off
◆Message skip function added
◆Displays "What to do next"
◆Improved effects etc...
please note that the 2nd demo was not updated with these contents so if you want to experience it you have to download it here:
You must be registered to see the links
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It's not a big one, so don't get your hopes up for it:
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I think I may have issues.
I'm a Rin fan.
Ok, to be fair, I think I can match her freak. The premise of the game was quite unique and refreshing, that said, it really hurt that you couldn't bang them and just not tell the main girl about it. You really think she's gonna believe those bimbos over you? As you can see, I can match Rin's freak.
Aoi is a violent stalker, I'm good. Yes she loves the MC and everything, yet a life with someone like that is a life of misery, no matter how the epilogues' "epilogue" tried to make it seem otherwise. You can't go out, you can't talk to other women even casually, she'll get "jealous" for no fucking whatsoever, it's just not the type of life you want.
Shiori is just plain old boring. Can't talk smack about her, but I can't say I'd be thrilled either. She is by far the best girl of the game, as she was made to be, but then again, Rin is there, so by comparison this girl is just dull. Skip.
Maika is trouble. She is extremely prideful, it's so intense that you could even say she's childlish. She's a bimbo and a slut, obviously. By the epilogue, she becomes a women of pretense, always trying to keep up appearances. Being with someone like that is exhausting. She's also a roastie. By the epilogue, she matures a bit, but still, I'm good. That type of women will not respect you, ever. If you like being minimized and miserable, then by all means, she's right there.
Rin has daddy issues. I have mommy issues. Honestly, her story was made out to be a tragedy. It's truly a pity, by day 4, she develops feelings for the protagonists, but she is so broken that she doesn't even understand them. In truth, if the protagonist wasn't a pussy, he may have been able to work it out with her, confronting those that abused her, and ultimately removing her need for sleeping with the teachers. You could even get MORE money if he can convince her to sue or blackmail, effectively obliterating her clientele. Back to reality; she ended up joining the book club and always ends up as a close friend of the protagonist. If he had decided to stay with her over the boring girl, then he would've helped process her thoughts. By adulthood, the protagonist would've been able to support her financially, removing the need for her "overnight work" before it even started. She is a horny girl, so you get to bang often as well.
The main issue with Rin is that all of that takes work and effort from your part, there are no guarantees, and people like that are prone to "relapsing". Of course, if you're also sleeping around then honestly it shouldn't even be much of a problem to you, be fair. If you can work it all out, then girls like these end up being worth the most in the end. If you fail, then as long as you can remain in good terms, you can at least make some side money or whatever, making the investment worth.
The author definitely could have done a better job writing her and her story, especially with that ending. I read it like three times and I still don't get wtf the writer was going on about.
She and the protagonist went "silent" for months? Ok sure, maybe they ditched the town and moved elsewhere to fuck like rabbits.
Then Shiori has a feeling that something "really bad" happened to them. Ok sure, they got murdered and their organs were harvested. Like wtf where did that come from???
It's such an open ending that it doesn't even feel like a conclusion. The only satisfying answer is to assume that they both died, but why, and how? Again, it's so abrupt.
Anyways, it was a pleasant read, can recommend.
I'm a Rin fan.
Ok, to be fair, I think I can match her freak. The premise of the game was quite unique and refreshing, that said, it really hurt that you couldn't bang them and just not tell the main girl about it. You really think she's gonna believe those bimbos over you? As you can see, I can match Rin's freak.
Aoi is a violent stalker, I'm good. Yes she loves the MC and everything, yet a life with someone like that is a life of misery, no matter how the epilogues' "epilogue" tried to make it seem otherwise. You can't go out, you can't talk to other women even casually, she'll get "jealous" for no fucking whatsoever, it's just not the type of life you want.
Shiori is just plain old boring. Can't talk smack about her, but I can't say I'd be thrilled either. She is by far the best girl of the game, as she was made to be, but then again, Rin is there, so by comparison this girl is just dull. Skip.
Maika is trouble. She is extremely prideful, it's so intense that you could even say she's childlish. She's a bimbo and a slut, obviously. By the epilogue, she becomes a women of pretense, always trying to keep up appearances. Being with someone like that is exhausting. She's also a roastie. By the epilogue, she matures a bit, but still, I'm good. That type of women will not respect you, ever. If you like being minimized and miserable, then by all means, she's right there.
Rin has daddy issues. I have mommy issues. Honestly, her story was made out to be a tragedy. It's truly a pity, by day 4, she develops feelings for the protagonists, but she is so broken that she doesn't even understand them. In truth, if the protagonist wasn't a pussy, he may have been able to work it out with her, confronting those that abused her, and ultimately removing her need for sleeping with the teachers. You could even get MORE money if he can convince her to sue or blackmail, effectively obliterating her clientele. Back to reality; she ended up joining the book club and always ends up as a close friend of the protagonist. If he had decided to stay with her over the boring girl, then he would've helped process her thoughts. By adulthood, the protagonist would've been able to support her financially, removing the need for her "overnight work" before it even started. She is a horny girl, so you get to bang often as well.
The main issue with Rin is that all of that takes work and effort from your part, there are no guarantees, and people like that are prone to "relapsing". Of course, if you're also sleeping around then honestly it shouldn't even be much of a problem to you, be fair. If you can work it all out, then girls like these end up being worth the most in the end. If you fail, then as long as you can remain in good terms, you can at least make some side money or whatever, making the investment worth.
The author definitely could have done a better job writing her and her story, especially with that ending. I read it like three times and I still don't get wtf the writer was going on about.
She and the protagonist went "silent" for months? Ok sure, maybe they ditched the town and moved elsewhere to fuck like rabbits.
Then Shiori has a feeling that something "really bad" happened to them. Ok sure, they got murdered and their organs were harvested. Like wtf where did that come from???
It's such an open ending that it doesn't even feel like a conclusion. The only satisfying answer is to assume that they both died, but why, and how? Again, it's so abrupt.
Anyways, it was a pleasant read, can recommend.
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nice post altho im still choosing to have my pelvis jackhammered into oblivion by Aoi
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While I agree on some points with Rin, you have to remember that they're in high school. They're dumb, hormonal, emotional teenagers that'll most likely mellow out as they transition to adulthood. Of all the heroines, I feel like Rin is the only one who has some really deeply rooted psychological issues that can't be resolved by just giving her enough attention and love. Honestly, the kind of MC you're imagining that would be able to "fix" her would be able to fix anyone else.
Aoi ultimately cares about what the MC wants. When the MC stands up to and rejects her, she realizes she's hurting the MC and backs off. If the MC could effectively articulate his wants and needs and stand his ground, I don't think she'd act the way that she does. I don't think she actually stalks him or tries to keep him away from other women considering she doesn't even try to save him in the endings where she chooses Maika or Rin. Hell, Shiori's been his closest friend for years without Aoi doing anything to her.
I don't know what you mean by Maika won't ever respect you. In the epilogue, she's basically a completely different person. She even complains about being single while her friends have boyfriends and gets defensive on MC's behalf when they make a jab at him. I don't know what you mean by "woman of pretense." Being genuine in college is a common struggle. I'm sure everyone has a story about how they or someone they know were completely different people in their early adulthood compared to different milestones in life. It's a weird period where you're legally no longer a kid but also don't have the life experience to navigate adult life yet.
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I think you're being quite kind to them. They are all toxic and abusive, as they were created to be. Each character represents a different kind of abuse, with the common theme being psychological abuse. I'll do my best to address your points in a way that is easy to follow.
1) The setting: You know what, I hadn't considered that. You are right, they are in High School. I wasn't as perverse, cunning, or refined as I am now. Your point is valid, mistakes are made, and when you look back to your HS days, you will have regrets. Maybe you missed some obvious hints, maybe you were "too" something, you did stuff you wish you had or hadn't done, and so on. Still, the protagonist is a bitch. There is no reason why you can't just bang and move on, but maybe I was in the minority during puberty. I highly doubt that, however.
2) Aoi represents Psychological and Physical Abuse, as well as Stalking. What she feels is an obsessive love. She forces her will unto the protagonists, sometimes physically, others times by attempting "gaslighting" (also known as psychological manipulation). If you do her questline, there is a point in which she begins stalking the protagonist, following him wherever he goes, waiting for an opportunity to act. When Maika begins "seducing" the protagonist, she uses that opportunity to pounce and "help" the protagonist (who not only did not ask for it, but likely didn't need it either). She then uses her actions and justifies them as her trying to help him. She then proceeds to lead him to an isolated room and abuse him physically (when did he consent?). Again, this is all psychological manipulation, which leads to her using her superior physical strength to force intercourse with the protagonist (also known as sexual assault). The only reason why she doesn't "attack" the protagonists in the other endings is likely because she stops herself. She knows what she's doing is wrong, she is conflicted. As you mentioned, they are hormonal and yada yada. By the epilogue, she mellows down a bit, and her love for the protagonist changes from obsessive to unrequited. She comes to terms with it, but once again becomes hyper aggressive (relapses) if the protagonists decides to confess to her.
Everything I said in my other comment are common traits (and results) from abusive and obsessive partner.
3) Maika represents Emotional and Coercive abuse. Again, she is prideful to a fault. She gets a kick from seeing the protagonist suffer, so it be from degrading him, or altogether from dehumanizing him. If you do her questline, you'll see that she is a "master" of manipulation (I put it in quotations because what she's trying to do is quite obvious if you have eyes). She completely fools the protagonist and Shiori into thinking that they're friends, only to betray it a few hours later in a heinous way. She never truly cared about the protagonist as a person, she saw him as more of an object to get a kick out of. In the epilogue, she becomes more "mellow", more "calm", but is quite obviously just as wicked, with the main difference being that she know has her feelings figured out, similar to Aoi. I do not understand how you did not see that she is a woman of appearances; all her friends were in relationships except for her. When confronted by her friends, she USED the protagonist as her "boyfriend". It did not matter WHO it was, she just needed SOMEONE to fill in that role to keep up appearances. If she had been talking to anybody else, she would have used that person instead. All of this to say that she does not give a crap about the protagonist as a person.
Once again, all of the traits in my original comment are from people that are similar to Maika. People like this do not value you and will keep on using you until you are unwanted. In a romantic relationship, this is horrible, might as well be unrequited love. Think of opportunists, but worse.
4) Rin. I have no fucking idea what she represents other than Sexual abuse, mostly since she tries to make you into a "customer" of hers. Unlike the others, she never forces the protagonist into doing anything via physical strength or mental manipulation. If you do her questline, her ultimatum is "either have sex with me right here and now, or I will go out and expose myself to your girl", this is outright coercion, there's no underhand here. As you said, whatever the hell is wrong with her is deep rooted. It can be "fixed", and its actually easier than trying to fix the other two simply because her whole disorder is NOT based upon insecurities. Aoi's abuse stems from not being able to trust her partner, for whatever fucking reason. Maika's abuse stems from wanting to be "superior" to her partner, always in control. Both of those girls have those traits in common, with the major difference being that Aoi aims for physical superiority whereas Maika aims for mental superiority. Most of the time, these insecurities come from thinking of oneself in a negative way, so it be from thinking of themselves as physically repugnant, or from thinking that their partner cannot be trusted (which normally develops in childhood). In these cases, however, I don't think that insecurities are the reason why; in the end, they are all fictional characters and may not have a reason altogether.
Anyways, back to Rin; During the events of the game, she thinks nothing of sex, which is not necessarily a bad thing. In her case, it is, because she does not know what romantic intimacy is or feels like. I don't think she ended up "falling in love" with the protagonist, but rather, she was grateful, as he was someone that saw her for more than her body. During her ultimatum, she never exposes the protagonist (unlike Maika), and if pushed aside, she simply lets it slide without much resistance and agrees to become "normal friends" with the protagonist (unlike Aoi, who adamantly resists physically, and then cuts ties completely to stop a relapse). By adulthood, she is the one that changed the least, as she continues prostituting herself and seeking physical relationships, but failing miserably at obtaining romantic ones. During her questline, she admits to having a boyfriend, but never been intimate with him, which is out of character for her, a prostitute, but this sheds light in the fact that she is trying to improve in her own misguided way. When the protagonist sleeps with her, they enter into an open (and secret) relationship, which both consent to. In the end, as I mentioned in my other post, nobody knows wtf happened. They could've "ran away", or perhaps they were killed, who knows.
5) Conclusion: Out of those three, Rin is arguably the one that will make you the least miserable with the right mindset, and assuming that you are willing to put it in the work. Of course, this all comes down to preference; if you don't mind being treated like garbage, Maika will be up your alley. If you like being controlled and beaten, then Aoi will be more fitting. If you like them sexually depraved, then Rin is the way.
Just from that conclusion alone I am able to confidently say that I prefer Rin over the other two. The question is; after all of this, who do you prefer?
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1) I'm not sure what you mean by "There is no reason why you can't just bang and move on, but maybe I was in the minority during puberty." If you're asking why him giving in ruins his confidence to be with Shiori, I kinda get it. Remember, the whole thing kicks off because Maika fake confesses to him to try to get him to confess to her for an easy win and ego boost, but he shoots her down. He's choosing genuine love, grown over years, over lust. It doesn't even occur to him in the moment that Maika was just messing with him. But now that Shiori is in his mind and that he's already told her to wait for him so that he can confess, he's putting his chips down. If he succumbs to his lust, he's not committed enough to be with her. Like if you flip the roles, would you want to be with a girl who shows romantic interest in you but is fucking other dudes while she works up the courage to ask you out?
2) I'm not doubting that's what she represents, but as you mentioned, she's capable of restraint. Her behavior doesn't even come out until the confession game escalates, and she only "participates" in the game because she knows the other girls are just fucking with him. The girls obviously don't have a high opinion of the MC, including Aoi, which is why she thinks he needs saving. She probably just assumed that he'd be romantically interested in her if he saw her as sexually appealing rather than a just a childhood friend. Was it toxic and delusional? Absolutely. But regardless of how unlikely the relationship would have panned out in real life, canonically, she isn't actually abusive in the way you're thinking. The game isn't trying to downplay the dangers of people with this kind of behavior, it's just catering to people's yandere fetishes.
3) Maika is a caricature of conceit, yes. She proposes the game as a means to assert her position as most attractive/popular of the three and the others just go along with it to humor her. She even picks an easy target, a person who's already confessed to her before. No one actually expected the MC to say no. Had he said yes right then and there, she wouldn't have even kept him as whatever the hell he ends up in her ending. But in the epilogue, that's not the kind of person Maika is anymore.
She didn't lack for looks, so it wasn't like she couldn't get a guy. Despite her griping of being single, I got the impression that she didn't want just any guy. If she just cared about grades or status, she didn't specifically need MC to be her friend, so I have to assume she genuinely likes being around him. It's hard to say that she's still a bad person on the inside from her lying about her being her boyfriend. Was it selfish and ultimately pointless? Sure, but I've done worse and I'm sure most other people have as well. I don't think the MC and her would be friends if she didn't balance out her bad traits with good.
I strongly disagree with the opinion that she doesn't care about him as a person. When the moment passed with her friends, she checks on his plans with Shiori and even gives him advice. It doesn't benefit her to do so, but she chose to be kind. If the MC decides to cheat on Shiori with her, she doesn't immediately go with it, she discourages him and ultimately seems happy if he insists on choosing her. If the game intended to make her seem irredeemably bad, they did a terrible job at convincing me.
4) Honestly, I don't think the heroines are depictions of some form of abuse. I think they're just different flavors of femdom: humiliation, semen milking, and yandere. Honestly, I can't see how Rin's issue is fixable, let alone more easily fixable than the other two. I think it's actually worse that she intends to blackmail him with a lie. Either he commits social suicide right now, or hand her the gun to pull the trigger later. How many men do you think she's done that to, to use that so casually? How broken of a person do you have to be to knowingly sabotage another person's relationship?
If you haven't figured it out yet, Rin's issue is that she lacks control in her life and struggles to see herself as more than an object to be used. Her family is in a bad economic condition and she has no prospects for a successful life ahead of her. She might have hung out with Aoi and Maika, but they're not friends. That's why the prospect of MC being her friend and letting her be herself was such a huge thing for her. She didn't trust anyone. She's by far the most insecure of the three because what you see isn't even the real her. Her whole persona at school is a lie to cope with her internal turmoil.
Her changing the least as an adult is actually proof that she's got deeply rooted issues that can't be easily resolved. She's failing at intimacy because she can't trust. She wants to trust that her boyfriend likes her for more than her looks, which is why she doesn't fuck him. But if she trusted him, she wouldn't need to do that. It isn't ironic or out of character, it's meant to show how sad her life is and how despite her friendship with MC, it couldn't fix her.
5) To answer your question, Maika. Specifically, college Maika. I mentioned it in previous posts before, but she seems more compatible with the MC imo. They're in the same classes, regularly hang out together (which even Shiori doesn't do as much), and pays attention to his needs and shortcomings. Even Shiori probably didn't even consider he might not remember to get her a gift.
Edit: Also to add, everyone seems to think that Rin has a thing for corruption, but I'm pretty sure the whole ultimatum thing is motivated by misery loves company. Everyone she coerces goes back to her, but they have this miserable look to them. She's not leading them to depravity, she's trapping them in a state of helplessness.
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