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Zakkuri

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I think it's kinda funny there's a white washed Jasmine on this dude's Patreon. But his willingness to listen to advice and interact gives me hope that this will be great. Thumbs up from me.
 
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Morkar

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I'm glad that you take into account the feedback from the community very few do it and I also agree that the MC must be changed

although to take advantage of pete's sprite I would recycle it as a secondary, for example, a kind of merchant or smuggler who sold you items to help you submit the princesses or weapons for combat (if any) or ship parts and things like that take advantage of the work done on it

I would also like that not only the few princesses of the kingdom hearts be limited to the game and that new worlds and goals to conquer be added over time even if they are not princesses like Kim's possible world or planets with marvel / star wars characters or X men final fantasy etc which is also part of the "kingdom hearts universe"
 
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abagel

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I really like the concept for this. It feels a little weird playing as Pete considering what's probably coming. Otherwise, I love the setup and the art. Kairi and Namine look great even though we only see them hiding naked behind the WIP sign.....which I keep bringing back up for some reason. Anyways, this could have great potential if it just incorporates more and more disney franchises and the FF stuff too.
 

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I'm in total agreement of what complain my buddies above, about that weird fat MC, I posted about it some pages back, but from now on Studio Filth must put his efforts to introduce more girls and events to the game.
 
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Ghostman95

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Hi f95zone,

Dev here.

Appreciate all the feedback! Genuinely glad that the majority of you are hyped.

The obvious feedback is a new MC, which I'll take on board. You've been heard loud and clear. We'll design up a nameable non-furry OC MC. Obviously this'll slightly change the existing dialogue which we'll implement in v0.1.

Otherwise please do keep sending your feedback and thoughts!

Many thanks,
Hawkhero

P.s. where do I get the dev tag!? Please help a guy out...
Just make sure the new MC is a bad guy. Pete's personality fit well in this game because he's already a pre-established character (someone we are familiar with and don't need to learn about) and perverse things seems like something he'd do. It's harder to make a character from scratch believable.
 
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Fatbot

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Just make sure the new MC is a bad guy. Pete's personality fit well in this game because he's already a pre-established character (someone we are familiar with and don't need to learn about) and perverse things seems like something he'd do. It's harder to make a character from scratch believable.
I vote Hades, he even has a history as A)a bit skeevy, and B)manipulating women to his own ends. Plus he's a recurring KH villain.
 
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Kalrotix

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And why does the MC has to be evil anyways? Cant he just want to make the girls lewder just to amass a harem? Or because he just likes to twist the girls moralities just for the contrast?
Well if we work for Malefic and Pete we are probably a bad guy. After maybe that we are one who want to use the power of hearts princesses to become the chief of darkness faction ?
 
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Zakkuri

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And why does the MC has to be evil anyways? Cant he just want to make the girls lewder just to amass a harem? Or because he just likes to twist the girls moralities just for the contrast?
Doesn't have to be anything, the dev simply wants to make that type of game, and I applaud him. There's already plenty of cutesy romance VNs put out by the Japanese that value morality and good character. I don't feel as if western VNs (if you can call them that) need to go that way.

Besides, 'twist the girls morality' sounds pretty evil to me. No idea how you'd implement that behavior onto a morally righteous character.
 
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kratoscar2008

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Well if we work for Malefic and Pete we are probably a bad guy. After maybe that we are one who want to use the power of hearts princesses to become the chief of darkness faction ?
Arent they good by KH 3. Anyways you can always make it so Maleficent just helps you because it furters her agenda but not yours. Like in say Deviant Dungeon where the Maou just wants you to defeat the heroes and lets the MC do it however he wants which the MC uses to make a harem (You could even do that here with the MC then turning on her and make her his woman too).

Doesn't have to be anything, the dev simply wants to make that type of game, and I applaud him. There's already plenty of cutesy romance VNs put out by the Japanese that value morality and good character. I don't feel as if western VNs (if you can call them that) need to go that way.

Besides, 'twist the girls morality' sounds pretty evil to me. No idea how you'd implement that behavior onto a morally righteous character.
There is plenty of japanese games with villain/rapist protags too so no reason why western games cant have as much cutesy as japanese games, besides the western scene is already filled to the brim with slave trainers so a more "vanilla" western game would make it stand out.

And i would say someone having a fetish is not evil, MC just wanting to corrupt girls to make them his isnt evil perse. My point is that the MC doesnt has ti be evil just because.
 

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Arent they good by KH 3. Anyways you can always make it so Maleficent just helps you because it furters her agenda but not yours. Like in say Deviant Dungeon where the Maou just wants you to defeat the heroes and lets the MC do it however he wants which the MC uses to make a harem (You could even do that here with the MC then turning on her and make her his woman too).
I didn't play KH 3 so I don't know. But from what i'm remember in the earlier versions she wanted the power of the queens of heart.

For the motivations of our character I don't know, we will have to wait more informations before discovers them.
 

Zakkuri

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Arent they good by KH 3. Anyways you can always make it so Maleficent just helps you because it furters her agenda but not yours. Like in say Deviant Dungeon where the Maou just wants you to defeat the heroes and lets the MC do it however he wants which the MC uses to make a harem (You could even do that here with the MC then turning on her and make her his woman too).


There is plenty of japanese games with villain/rapist protags too so no reason why western games cant have as much cutesy as japanese games, besides the western scene is already filled to the brim with slave trainers so a more "vanilla" western game would make it stand out.

And i would say someone having a fetish is not evil, MC just wanting to corrupt girls to make them his isnt evil perse. My point is that the MC doesnt has ti be evil just because.
There are WAY more without villain protags than with.

And honestly, now that I actually check out his patreon page (exciting, you should too) it seems like there is probably going to be vanilla options anyway. It says:

Princess Training
Explore many worlds to conquer the princesses 'hearts', whether it be through means innocent or not.

So, you should be happy to know that you'll probably get the seduction you're after. Very, very ambitious product overall. I'll slide some money to it.
 

kratoscar2008

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I didn't play KH 3 so I don't know. But from what i'm remember in the earlier versions she wanted the power of the queens of heart.

For the motivations of our character I don't know, we will have to wait more informations before discovers them.
I only played 1&2 and i dont remember her being particularly evil in 2, i dont think she was very evil in the series, more like she was the power hungry type (Maybe this was done around the future idea of making her a morally gray villain to fit her future movie's narrative)
But yeah lets see, its not like im opposed to him being evil (As long as it doesnt involve girl sharing), im just saying he doesnt has to be evil.

There are WAY more without villain protags than with.

And honestly, now that I actually check out his patreon page (exciting, you should too) it seems like there is probably going to be vanilla options anyway. It says:

Princess Training
Explore many worlds to conquer the princesses 'hearts', whether it be through means innocent or not.

So, you should be happy to know that you'll probably get the seduction you're after. Very, very ambitious product overall. I'll slide some money to it.
I think there are more with nice dudes mainly because of the moege genre which imo is not really about porn, in most porn centric games most contain rape or a form of sexual corruption.
Regardless im trying the western scene because i think it has potential and with most being 3dcg, which im really not a fan imo, this game having great art i look forward to it. And really as long as its only the OC MC having sex i really dont mind him if he is bad or good, im just questioning the notion that he HAS to be evil.
Lets hope Square or Disney dont mess with them.
 
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Kalrotix

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I only played 1&2 and i dont remember her being particularly evil in 2, i dont think she was very evil in the series, more like she was the power hungry type (Maybe this was done around the future idea of making her a morally gray villain to fit her future movie's narrative)
Don't remember well, it must be 3 or 4 years that I didn't play to the serie.

But yeah lets see, its not like im opposed to him being evil (As long as it doesnt involve girl sharing), im just saying he doesnt has to be evil.
Well, after I suppose that it depends also what do you mean by evil ?

But the picture on the site show a Kairi chained and pregnant and on his patreon the first picture that you can see is the hearts princesses chained. So, I suppose that our protagonist is evil, yes.
 
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Zakkuri

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I only played 1&2 and i dont remember her being particularly evil in 2, i dont think she was very evil in the series, more like she was the power hungry type (Maybe this was done around the future idea of making her a morally gray villain to fit her future movie's narrative)
But yeah lets see, its not like im opposed to him being evil (As long as it doesnt involve girl sharing), im just saying he doesnt has to be evil.


I think there are more with nice dudes mainly because of the moege genre which imo is not really about porn, in most porn centric games most contain rape or a form of sexual corruption.
Regardless im trying the western scene because i think it has potential and with most being 3dcg, which im really not a fan imo, this game having great art i look forward to it. And really as long as its only the OC MC having sex i really dont mind him if he is bad or good, im just questioning the notion that he HAS to be evil.
Lets hope Square or Disney dont mess with them.
I think setting Heartless on people and stealing hearts would constitute being evil.

Most Nukige are rape focused? That's a completely false claim, as proven below.

If you include rape and nukige, the results are thus:


Thirty pages. Now that's a lot. But if you exclude rape and keep nukige:


Sixty four pages. So consensual nukige more than doubles the ones with rape, and the ones with rape don't necessarily even have rapist protagonists.

He doesn't gotta be evil. Nobody ever said he had to. Honestly, ever since Four Elements Trainer, I'm down for either. Good writing is, in and of itself, a good enough reason to play a game for me. But I still lean towards immoral protagonists, as do most of F95, I think.
 
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