VN Ren'Py Corporate Culture [v0.7] [sqwl]

[Dessolos]

She has told him he can't trust other people. How is she exempt from being untrustworthy?

Given the depressing way the story is presented, she MUST fuck him over in the end. Any sunshine and roses ending involving her would invalidate the entire story.

probably true but I find it hard to believe she would be untrustworthy and fuck the MC over in the end , at least without picking a wrong choice at some point in the game. Since after all this is a game not a movie and she is 1 of the few character that could perhaps be considered a LI, at least I hope she is a LI and it isn't just Alice.

Personally I see her helping the MC move up the ranks and would move up as well with the MC at some point but doesn't want the responsibility of being a leader / management. So with that in mind I dont think should would betray the MC. Tho I do need to replay this game so I could of easily forgotten alot.

 

[MagicShoppe]

I doubt Elsa would ever have sex with Edward. There's no hint she as any such interest in him.

And "it's a game" only makes it worse if that's the reason she doesn't backstab him. It may end up that she elevates Edward and that in turn elevates her more for a "happy" ending. But at some point, Edward should become expendable. This is typical in corporate culture. It's why it's the name of game, isn't it?

 

[Jacowboy]

No, my problem was your referring to "Those weirdos" as if something was wrong with identifying with a character. It was a disgusting way to think about others. You missed the point.

Oh no, I got your point, I just don't care

You sure seem to have a lot of opinions on a game you don't like tho... but aaaanyways...

 

[Dessolos]

I doubt Elsa would ever have sex with Edward. There's no hint she as any such interest in him.

And "it's a game" only makes it worse if that's the reason she doesn't backstab him. It may end up that she elevates Edward and that in turn elevates her more for a "happy" ending. But at some point, Edward should become expendable. This is typical in corporate culture. It's why it's the name of game, isn't it?

gonna have to agree to disagree with you on that one

 

[MagicShoppe]

gonna have to agree to disagree with you on that one

Not a problem.

 

[Wazzatheboss]

I think Elsa genuinely cares about Elsa. You can't really see it currently because she is full in the tough life coach role at the moment but if you go back with the earlier Elsa/Edward interaction, especially the time she calls Edward to get her out of the police station and the whole princess in tower discussion. She says at one point that she values loyalty like her mother and she can "read" people like her father. Imo Elsa has big respect for Edward because he is one the rare person around her who is genuine. Early Edward doesn't try to get in her pants or use her as a pawn for political scraps like Matt or the CFO.

She defintely has some hidden motives and secrets but she also cares about Edward way much that her nonchalent attitude suggest :

- Edward's anger is more apparent but she is pissed too when Emma stole the project
- She hints that Lucy is just a basic gold digger and Edward shouldn't waste her time with her.
- When Edward feels guilty after his promotion, instead of brushing him off, she listen offer real advice despite her vindicative stance on Emma

I wouldn't be surprised that the whole cold and tough life coach is just a facade to help MC to not stagnate and push himself.

Because at the end of the day, why the hell would she pick an interest of Edward ? She is obviously rich and has close links with important people like the CEO of Escen. Early Edward is not a big shot he is just a clueless depressed office monkey.

 

[MagicShoppe]

- Edward's anger is more apparent but she is pissed too when Emma stole the project

Yes, she had to hang on Edward's coattails longer than originally assumed.

- She hints that Lucy is just a basic gold digger and Edward shouldn't waste her time with her.

If she really cared for Edward, she'd tell him to hook with Lucy or someone like her. There's absolutely nothing to imply Lucy is a gold digger. Instead, she keep Edward in her hooks, dangling the Alice carrot in front of him. Lucy (or someone like her) would get in the way of that.

- When Edward feels guilty after his promotion, instead of brushing him off, she listen offer real advice despite her vindicative stance on Emma

Elsa knows knows which bridges can be burned and which cannot. (I don't know if I got that far. I stopped after he got drunk on promotion day.)

Because at the end of the day, why the hell would she pick an interest of Edward ? She is obviously rich and has close links with important people like the CEO of Escen. Early Edward is not a big shot he is just a clueless depressed office monkey.

Most likely, she wants to destroy EO (total speculation). She only really took up interest in Edward when he had "the idea". And then she made sure he couldn't ignore her by getting arrested and needing him to rescue her.

I realize once you assume someone has ulterior motives, it's easy to think everything they do plays into those motives. Don't get me wrong. Problem is we know she has motives that aren't necessarily in line with Edward's. And that means at some point, she'll have to choose between him and herself. And that's no choice at all.

 

[yossa999]

I think Elsa genuinely cares about Elsa. [...]

It's like the rest of your post kind of refutes the opening statement. Are you sure this is not a typo bro?

 

[dolfe67]

It's like the rest of your post kind of refutes the opening statement. Are you sure this is not a typo bro?

Yes it's an obvious typo, it should read "I think Elsa genuinely cares about Edward."

 

[MagicShoppe]

It's like the rest of your post kind of refutes the opening statement. Are you sure this is not a typo bro?

Perhaps it was a Freudian slip. The truth is inside the poster you're responding to.

 

[Wazzatheboss]

It's like the rest of your post kind of refutes the opening statement. Are you sure this is not a typo bro?

You're right, thank you!

Yes, she had to hang on Edward's coattails longer than originally assumed.

If she really cared for Edward, she'd tell him to hook with Lucy or someone like her. There's absolutely nothing to imply Lucy is a gold digger. Instead, she keep Edward in her hooks, dangling the Alice carrot in front of him. Lucy (or someone like her) would get in the way of that.

Lucy definitely gives gold digger/materialistic vibes. You can only sleep with her the first time if you lie about your job after showing off with Elsa's car, otherwise she is not interested by you until you start to wear expansive clothes.

Elsa knows knows which bridges can be burned and which cannot. (I don't know if I got that far. I stopped after he got drunk on promotion day.)

It is just after when they talk before falling asleep

Most likely, she wants to destroy EO (total speculation). She only really took up interest in Edward when he had "the idea". And then she made sure he couldn't ignore her by getting arrested and needing him to rescue her.

I realize once you assume someone has ulterior motives, it's easy to think everything they do plays into those motives. Don't get me wrong. Problem is we know she has motives that aren't necessarily in line with Edward's. And that means at some point, she'll have to choose between him and herself. And that's no choice at all.

I don't know I somehow feel like she was sent to destroy/spy EO by some.one (her family?) but is/will be having second thoughts about

 

[MagicShoppe]

I don't know I somehow feel like she was sent to destroy/spy EO by some.one (her family?) but is/will be having second thoughts about

What clue is there that she's having second thoughts?

 

[6pak2go]

A couple of fan art renders while we wait on the update.
I took liberties with her hair length.

Spoiler: Elsa Portrait1

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[6pak2go]

Spoiler: Elsa Portrait 2

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[rudy007]

A couple of fan art renders while we wait on the update.
I took liberties with her hair length.

Spoiler: Elsa Portrait1

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I think long hair suit her better. She's simple gorgeous...

 

[ImSenjou]

It's good to see discussions like this here, most of the threads I visit are just nonsense, people criticizing others for giving opinions, or AI “Fan Art” spam…

After reading the comments on the last pages I decided to delete the game, the game is well rated, before downloading, months ago, I read several comments, but when playing I didn't understand, what's interesting about this game?

The most talked about and apparently favorite “Li” around here doesn't even have “scenes” (The game has been in development for 4 years!), even playing the game completely I still didn't understand the appeal, but that's ok, I think my expectations were too high, that's why the disappointment was so big.

The game is so highly rated that I left it here, even though I didn't like it, but it's time to go.

I don't want to convince anyone, I'm not criticizing the game, I know there are those who like it, I just wanted to leave this comment because I finally saw a healthy discussion after going through so many horrible threads.

And just to finish, I played this game months ago, I don't remember much, so this theory is pretty weak, I just thought about it now, but I think Elsa is a creation of the MC's mind, like Tyler is a creation of the mind of Jack, from the movie 'Fight Club', think about it.
Damn, after thinking about this it reignited my interest in the game, is it possible??

 

[MaxRichard]

And just to finish, I played this game months ago, I don't remember much, so this theory is pretty weak, I just thought about it now, but I think Elsa is a creation of the MC's mind, like Tyler is a creation of the mind of Jack, from the movie 'Fight Club', think about it.
Damn, after thinking about this it reignited my interest in the game, is it possible??

This is actually a great theory. You should also post your comment as a review. FWIW, I think this particular game is great because it's a little different from the 18-year-old cringey fuckfest with purple haired girls with tattoos that is most AVNs these days

I guess if you've been playing for 4 years, it's been too long indeed. I just downloaded the latest and played from start to end, ctrl-skipping the flashback scene with the roommate because that shit was weak as fuck, but otherwise I thoroughly enjoyed the setting and the limited number of LIs, most of which are differentiated from each other, as opposed to all the copy-and-paste LIs from most other AVNs

 

[Ottoeight]

It's good to see discussions like this here, most of the threads I visit are just nonsense, people criticizing others for giving opinions, or AI “Fan Art” spam…

After reading the comments on the last pages I decided to delete the game, the game is well rated, before downloading, months ago, I read several comments, but when playing I didn't understand, what's interesting about this game?

The most talked about and apparently favorite “Li” around here doesn't even have “scenes” (The game has been in development for 4 years!), even playing the game completely I still didn't understand the appeal, but that's ok, I think my expectations were too high, that's why the disappointment was so big.

The game is so highly rated that I left it here, even though I didn't like it, but it's time to go.

I don't want to convince anyone, I'm not criticizing the game, I know there are those who like it, I just wanted to leave this comment because I finally saw a healthy discussion after going through so many horrible threads.

And just to finish, I played this game months ago, I don't remember much, so this theory is pretty weak, I just thought about it now, but I think Elsa is a creation of the MC's mind, like Tyler is a creation of the mind of Jack, from the movie 'Fight Club', think about it.
Damn, after thinking about this it reignited my interest in the game, is it possible??

Quoting myself from another thread:

" Either way, as far as I'm concerned, you are free to believe in any delusional twisted plot theory you want to believe in.

That's the problem with you guys who grew with all this shitty pop culture: you think that nonsensical plot twists are smart and good. "

I often read your posts, and I never agree with your opinions. Very unsurprisingly, I totally disagree with everything you've written above once again.

This is actually a great theory. You should also post your comment as a review. FWIW, I think this particular game is great because it's a little different from the 18-year-old cringey fuckfest with purple haired girls with tattoos that is most AVNs these days

I guess if you've been playing for 4 years, it's been too long indeed. I just downloaded the latest and played from start to end, ctrl-skipping the flashback scene with the roommate because that shit was weak as fuck, but otherwise I thoroughly enjoyed the setting and the limited number of LIs, most of which are differentiated from each other, as opposed to all the copy-and-paste LIs from most other AVNs

Ditto. Same as above.

 

[dolfe67]

It's an adult game before being a porn game. I enjoy both, it has its appeal.

I thought of the fight club twist too with this game in some way, but I don't think it's likely.

 

[Jacowboy]

ctrl-skipping the flashback scene with the roommate because that shit was weak as fuck,

Pshh, you're crazy, that's an amazing scene... one of my favs... the choreography is top notch.