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VN Ren'Py Corporate Culture [v0.7] [sqwl]

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Ricthequick

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Hi folks,

just a quick question, there's some actual progress in the new update (please no spoiler just your opinions)?
I don't mean in a sexual way, but rather plot wise, like do we learn more about Elsa or her motivations? Is there any character growth (no matter in which direction) for the MC?
 

vall6269

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Hey I think there's a bug, I can't win no matter what I try in the trial by combat when I start the game. I tried all key combinations but nothing seems to beat the censorship. Is there a guide somewhere I could follow for a surefire way to win?
 
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Hey I think there's a bug, I can't win no matter what I try in the trial by combat when I start the game. I tried all key combinations but nothing seems to beat the censorship. Is there a guide somewhere I could follow for a surefire way to win?
nah thats intended you can never win against
 
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Ricthequick

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It's actually a no, all we learn about her in this latest update is that she's competitive (ice skating story), and that was already quite clear.
While we (players) still have no real opportunity to make the MC behave as if he learnt anything.

I really dig this VN mostly for its setting and also the fact is not just a "lewd scene generator", but at least for what concenrs the actual core of the story is pretty much a kinetic novel.

The only available choices lead to failure, fair enough different degree of failure, but still failure, which in turns unlock yet more opportunities for him to be treated as an idiot (which he is) by Elsa.
 
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Demon_Emperor

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the story keeps getting better and better. I played it and can't wait for more. but i think it is not coming anytime soon considering the 0.7 update came almost one year later. hope dev will improve it. Any way it will be added in my fav list.
 

jufot

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It seems we're once again getting a bunch of people typing one-handedly, so I'll quote some relevant bits from the latest Patreon post:

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sqwl said:
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I collected feedback for the latest update. The general reception was okay. There are some concerns over pacing with which I partly agree, there should have been more story development in general. But I disagree when it comes to the romantic side of it. We can argue that focus should/could have shift to relationships rather than office stuff, I can see the point in this. But I can't agree that we should have had more rapid relationship development with LI, especially A & E.

CC is a small game in terms of LI. There will be only a few of them, and to make this interesting for you, the characters and relationships between them should be more in depth. I don't know how to make someone like Alice fall in love with someone like MC under 2 dates without turning her character into a tool to do whatever I need in that exact moment. She would stop being of any interest the moment you'd feel she doesn't have any integrity as a character.

Of course crazier things happened in real life and there are a lot of fantastic stories about that, but this isn't the one.

Thanks everybody taking time to leave the feedback. I rarely comment on it, not to affect it in any way, but I read it all. Your feedback helps me to avoid mistakes. It helps me with things I'm not so sure about.
 

Ricthequick

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It seems we're once again getting a bunch of people typing one-handedly, so I'll quote some relevant bits from the latest Patreon post:

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If your post is aimed also at mine above, I'd like to point out how I never mentioned issues with sexual or romantic development, quite the opposite in fact.
One of the reasons I like this VN is exactly that's not (how I said) a "lewd scene generator", what I find offputting is the lack of development in the character of the MC and his relations with pretty much everyone around him.

I personally would have been shocked if the last update led to the MC having sex with Elsa, or even just hints of that something about to happen shortly.
As the author mentions in their Patreon post (to which I have no access) it would be unusual for a romantic relationship to happen within a work envorinment too fast.

What wouldn't be unrealistic thou is for a person to question why a stranger is suddenly interested in becoming thier sponsor, their confidant.
I can understand at first, considering how inept the MC is at pretty much every kind of human interaction, but we are past the "at first" stage.

"Why is she helping me?"
"Is there any other further motive than, 'I like lost causes' behind her choice?"
"What is she getting out of it? A dopamine boost? Is she just a Mother Teresa? Is she romantically interested in me?"
"What if what she's doing is aimed at something else? Like personal gain? If so what is she gaining by helping me?"

I think I mentioned in a previous post weeks/months ago, is not even the real answer that I think should be provided, but ANY answer, or actually any sort of actual push to get said answers by the protagonist.
Elsa might even answer with a lie and the MC (as well as us players) take it for truth if there's a story reason for not giving a real answer, but not having ANY kind of actual interest from the protagonist on that topic...

Imo the story is slow not beacuse it lacks sexual or romantic scenes, is slow because there's no develpoment at all in the MC's behaviour, not in the romantic department, not in the work department (he's clearly unqualified for his new position) and of course not even on the intelligience department... he simply looks and acts like a total idiot, completely unable to learn from his mistakes, of which he commits plenty every single day.
 
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Requiem131

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Imo the story is slow not beacuse it lacks sexual or romantic scenes, is slow because there's no develpoment at all in the MC's behaviour, not in the romantic department, not in the work department (he's clearly unqualified for his new position) and of course not even on the intelligience department... he simply looks and acts like a total idiot, completely unable to learn from his mistakes, of which he commits plenty every single day.
I disagree with you on this, tbh. There is development in the work department without a doubt, we start this update with him messing everything up with his team and by the end of the update it's not all solved, but steps have been taken and are working in order to consider that progress, and probably one way quicker than would happen irl.

There is also romantic development, with the whole teaching scene and the park conversation and so on, it's just a slow one since things in a believable surronding requires time to build those relations, specially with such an MC and such a set of structural differences.

And finally, the update is what, three days? Intelligence isn't changed in three days, usually won't change in three months, and for many not even in three years. He has been honing his skills slowly, showing more confidence, looking for solutions to problems, and so on. Sure, he still makes mistakes, it's a basic part of human experience that you can't take away, but he's slowly finding new ways to solve them. For example, the rating program was his idea. And if we're talking about emotional intelligence, there are plenty of occasions to prove how he's been advancing on that front as well, like his bonding and speech to Matt.

So, I do believe the plot has advanced in this update in all fronts, it just advances in a detailed and slow pace that makes it believable and interesting at the same time.
 

Ricthequick

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I disagree with you on this, tbh. There is development in the work department without a doubt, we start this update with him messing everything up with his team and by the end of the update it's not all solved, but steps have been taken and are working in order to consider that progress, and probably one way quicker than would happen irl.

There is also romantic development, with the whole teaching scene and the park conversation and so on, it's just a slow one since things in a believable surronding requires time to build those relations, specially with such an MC and such a set of structural differences.

And finally, the update is what, three days? Intelligence isn't changed in three days, usually won't change in three months, and for many not even in three years. He has been honing his skills slowly, showing more confidence, looking for solutions to problems, and so on. Sure, he still makes mistakes, it's a basic part of human experience that you can't take away, but he's slowly finding new ways to solve them. For example, the rating program was his idea. And if we're talking about emotional intelligence, there are plenty of occasions to prove how he's been advancing on that front as well, like his bonding and speech to Matt.

So, I do believe the plot has advanced in this update in all fronts, it just advances in a detailed and slow pace that makes it believable and interesting at the same time.
I wasn't referring to this last update specifically, rather to the whole VN in its current stage, also I personally have absolutely no issue with the pacing in his interactions with Alice.

VNs can be tricky to write/handle, some go full blown "this is you, the player" others are the opposite (e.g. kinetic novels), Corporate Culture is more of a kinetic novel than a choice based VN at the moment, yes the choices are there, but don't really change anything major, but we do still have to "play"/read them from the MC's perspective.

I really like this VN, the setting is the main attraction for me, having spent 15 years in the same corporate environment and to be honest (believe it or not) went through something very similar myself, start at a low level, hit the swamp of "who gives a f about this, I'll just do my lil task and go home", the external motivator wasn't a teenagerial love attraction, but close enough, and the "sponsor" wasn't a love interest either, just someone who believed in me and wanted me to grow.

I know in real life doesn't take days to achieve these kind of changes, it takes weeks, and the months and then years (or a LOT of ass kissing/become friend with a C suite), but we are still looking at a Visual Novel, time can be skipped (if needed), or alternatively if that's not a trick the author wants to utilize there needs to be constant and faster growth/development because... we don't have 24hrs/day per 365 days/year and XX years/lifetime to spend on a visual novel.

I liked the first interaction with MC's new team, showing how he's not ready for that position, I liked his second interaction too showing how despite external help he still can't deal with a team of 3, but then the story needs to move onwards because the story ius already (by choice) proceeding very cautiously on the "love" side of things, instead we get the:
"I won't tell you how I know him and why he'll do what I ask him to, but the IT genius will develop a new algorithm that will allow you to easily evaluate your team (of 3-4 lol), but you won't understand how it works"

This is of course all very personal opinion, but there is no growth there, because he's not learning anything from his mistakes, experiencing a story through the eyes of a loser or an idiot can be fun, but only for so much, especially if it has nothing to do with a sexual kink and the other aspects of the story are proceeding very slowly too.
 

noway1

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The story progress would be okay, if the author would have the time to produce content 10 times faster.
Lord of the Rings would also not have worked, if you get one page per year.
It is the same, if you build the pyramids with only one guy. Then after 30 years, you have a few stones there and project stops.

If you do it so slowly, which I in general like, you should at least increase the amount erotic pictures. Maybe not 100 pictures for different angles in the first room and then 100 pictures with different angles in the second room, but also from time to time zoom on some ass or have the girls in an attractive pose/angle... at least if you want to have a porn game and keep a porn audience.
Or even better, at least give teasers like something might happen soon. If I finish the current update, I have the feeling I can skip the next 3, without missing something. The tension arc is like a flat line on the ground currently. Was even better before. And with tension arc, the only interesting part in the development of the relationship. Nobody cares for the development of the MC or his business position.

Especially, if you did not start anything with that neighbor, there the latest updates where quite "empty".
 
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Mibuwolf

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I don't know about you guys, but it seems to me that the only game in corporate culture is a minigame to see how much Elsa can cut the MC with her words. Nothing else seems to particularly matter in the game when it comes to the plot direction.
 
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I don't know about you guys, but it seems to me that the only game in corporate culture is a minigame to see how much Elsa can cut the MC with her words. Nothing else seems to particularly matter in the game when it comes to the plot direction.
*Smh* when a dev can make great fl but fail to make up for plot and the main character... But of course I'm understating, he makes such impactful FL, to the point that it carries the whole fucking thing.
 

MaxRichard

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The story progress would be okay, if the author would have the time to produce content 10 times faster.
Lord of the Rings would also not have worked, if you get one page per year.
It is the same, if you build the pyramids with only one guy. Then after 30 years, you have a few stones there and project stops.

If you do it so slowly, which I in general like, you should at least increase the amount erotic pictures. Maybe not 100 pictures for different angles in the first room and then 100 pictures with different angles in the second room, but also from time to time zoom on some ass or have the girls in an attractive pose/angle... at least if you want to have a porn game and keep a porn audience.
Or even better, at least give teasers like something might happen soon. If I finish the current update, I have the feeling I can skip the next 3, without missing something. The tension arc is like a flat line on the ground currently. Was even better before. And with tension arc, the only interesting part in the development of the relationship. Nobody cares for the development of the MC or his business position.

Especially, if you did not start anything with that neighbor, there the latest updates where quite "empty".
The neighbor is so fucking hideous I've rejected her every time I tried replaying this game, which somehow makes the game even less interesting because no porn

I don't know about you guys, but it seems to me that the only game in corporate culture is a minigame to see how much Elsa can cut the MC with her words. Nothing else seems to particularly matter in the game when it comes to the plot direction.
It started out promising, but it really petered out.
 
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