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UpravDom

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Couldn't have said it more right. I was honestly baffled upon seeing peeps here coming up with useless arguments as if we are in an Oscar forum lol and quoting Shakespeare :ROFLMAO:
Shakespeare is quoted by intelligent people and it's not bad! There are no useless arguments, because this is an attempt by a person to explain his position! The game is erotic! Therefore, any actions of the heroes will lead to sex! Hard sex is when Gunnar grabs Clara by the hair and Clara no longer twitches, but just thinks: GOD, how can I look into Alan's eyes now? After drunken sex with Leon, Clara just asked Alan: Do you still love me? After receiving an affirmative answer, Clara decided to move on. And then the aristocrat and part-time minister, Mr. Brown, will be with Clara at negotiations, in high society! Restaurants and other pleasant establishments will prepare Clara for soft sex with a patron! What thoughts will appear in Clara's head is still unclear! Moreover, some other character will appear in the game, which is obliged to influence the fate of Clara! Yeah! He'll probably fuck Clara to pregnancy or death! This is the third type of sex in the game, so far without a name! Well, now it's important not to forget to finally defeat the absolute evil! This is exactly what the game is about!
 

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There are a ton of harem games out there where the mere mention of possible NTR in the threads would get you hammered. Is it too much to ask for us to get a world of our own where the wife just wants to cheat as the only path... in a corruption focused game
Oh, for sure, this is a game themed around corruption, no doubt about it.

But you can still fumble that corruption by going too fast or going too slow.
Clara sleeping with Leon was too fast, because the writer dumbed down her character to fit the narrative he wanted. We all knew that Clara will eventually sleep with Leon - it was clear as soon as his character entered the fray. But full-on-bareback-sex-cheating on Alan after several days undercover? Certainly doesn't seem like the same character that we got introduced to at the start.
Not a huge fault, but it would've been perfect if it had been delayed just a tad bit more.
 

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Oh, for sure, this is a game themed around corruption, no doubt about it.

But you can still fumble that corruption by going too fast or going too slow.
Clara sleeping with Leon was too fast, because the writer dumbed down her character to fit the narrative he wanted. We all knew that Clara will eventually sleep with Leon - it was clear as soon as his character entered the fray. But full-on-bareback-sex-cheating on Alan after several days undercover? Certainly doesn't seem like the same character that we got introduced to at the start.
Not a huge fault, but it would've been perfect if it had been delayed just a tad bit more.
The author said to wait for a while to know why Clara fell so easily. Game is early to judge why she did so without knowing her full character. Maybe that is the point the dev want to make. The strong and badass character we got introduced to the start may have more flaws than we realise. Or don't judge a book by its cover. It could be just deeper than what we see on the surface.
 

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The author said to wait for a while to know why Clara fell so easily. Game is early to judge why she did so without knowing her full character. Maybe that is the point the dev want to make. The strong and badass character we got introduced to the start may have more flaws than we realise. Or don't judge a book by its cover. It could be just deeper than what we see on the surface.

The Dev said a few things that turned out to be untrue about Clara and the story.
 

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I gotta say I am still confused with NTR because there are so many variations. The fact is will she tell him she cheated outside of the mission. Cause that will change everything sex during the mission was ok and understandable. But sleeping with Leon someone she knows Alan doesn't like or respect. Will he forgive or will he just walk away. Only time will tell. Cause the one question that stands why didn't she walk in and confront them. Situation could have been resolved immediately she realizes that nothing happened after she saw the texts. someone said early in the forum she compartmentalizes after she had sex with Leon. Why didn't she compartmentalize before why after.
Klara will tell Alan about all her betrayals at the end when she wants to be forgiven, the so-called "the way of redemption":eek::ROFLMAO:
 

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"My husband is kissing another woman? I'm gonna get back at him by devouring the dick of a man I met only a few days ago. No, you can't blame me, I was drunk!"

The scene itself is well done, the alcohol helped her focus on Leon giving her pleasure that Alan just couldn't - but that wasn't my direct issue.

The problem is the aftermath: Clara wakes up in a panic, realizes she did actually cheat on Alan, tells Leon to forget their night ever happened and almost happily skips over to Alan and has a normal conversation with him. As if she didn't just cheat on her husband over a simple kiss. There is no discernible regret on her part, that little part of her conscience telling her she has crossed some lines she can never come back from again.
Don't see it that way. She is a secret agent who has killed before. To do that you have to be great at compartmentalizing emotions. I think that is what she did here. It was also more than a "simple kiss." If playing the corruption route, you already made several decisions that brought the relationship into question from Clara's point of view. She felt abandoned despite the incredible stressful situation she is in. Her rock was always Alan. A bit or normalcy even though he also worked at the agency. The "simple kiss" shattered her foundation. At least that is how I viewed the situation.
 

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The Dev said a few things that turned out to be untrue about Clara and the story.
Then don't play the game. Jeezus, it's a porn game - better than average one at that. Dev's change their mind all the time. I thought the Leon scene well done and just fine given the story. It's a corruption game. Dev's can never win with "too soon!" vs. "Let 'em shag already!"
 
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Then don't play the game. Jeezus, it's a porn game - better than average one at that. Dev's change their mind all the time. I thought the Leon scene well done and just fine given the story. It's a corruption game. Dev's can never win with "too soon!" vs. "Let 'em shag already!"
The last point you made is such a valid one..if a dev writes a very logical story where everything happens at a slow and steady pace with no cheating sex scenes for quite a while then everyone will accuse him of blue balling and milking his patreons..however if he does put in a cheating sex scene quite early then people will accuse him of being illogical and rushing things and you know what the funny part is almost everyone complaining against him are freeloaders who dont pay him a single buck yet they think they somehow have the honorary privilege of blaming him at every turn lol..free loaders like them are such hypocrites man lmaooo..:KEK::KEK::KEK::KEK::KEK:
 

MoBy28

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Then don't play the game. Jeezus, it's a porn game - better than average one at that. Dev's change their mind all the time. I thought the Leon scene well done and just fine given the story. It's a corruption game. Dev's can never win with "too soon!" vs. "Let 'em shag already!"

Nice to see your triggered by a statement of fact that only specified a character change. You even reinforced my statement with your comment about Devs change their mind. You then assumed I was referring to the Leon scene and stated your opinion on the scene and how you feel about it.

This is a netorare focused game and is choice based(only MC can make choices), letting you decide how you want the story to end. It will be slow-burn and corruption will take precedence.
You also made a partially true statement about it being a corruption game. That is one way to play it and the way you chose. There is another path of non corruption as well and those that play that way. Both are parts of the story which is a netorare focused story.

I'm happy you think it's an above average game, unfortunately not everyone does. Just because they don't have the same opinion of the game as you do doesn't make their opinions any less valid than yours except to you and those who share your opinion.

As for playing, I've asked before about the story and from the statements I've read my choice is to wait until it's done but also to watch the thread to see the direction the story is going. Not my fault you jumped to the conclusion I was bashing the story with my statement which was in response to someone else saying "the dev said", I was only reminding them that the dev has already said things that were untrue about Clara and the story. So enjoy the story and have fun instead of making incorrect assumptions of what someone else is saying.
 
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Then don't play the game. Jeezus, it's a porn game - better than average one at that. Dev's change their mind all the time. I thought the Leon scene well done and just fine given the story. It's a corruption game. Dev's can never win with "too soon!" vs. "Let 'em shag already!"
It’s actually really simple, it’s called you give the player (us) choices before a sex scene. That way if we don’t want Clara to fuck Leon, she says no, and those of us that want her to, say YES! now nobody can complain because we made the choice “to fuck or not to fuck” :ROFLMAO:
 

MoBy28

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It’s actually really simple, it’s called you give the player (us) choices before a sex scene. That way if we don’t want Clara to fuck Leon, she says no, and those of us that want her to, say YES! now nobody can complain because we made the choice “to fuck or not to fuck” :ROFLMAO:

That was actually part of what I was referring to about the dev making untrue statements about the story, saying your choices will decide if Clara stays faithful. With the Leon scene being unavoidable no matter your choices it showed me that as much as he emphizes it, the choices really don't matter as he is taking the story in the direction he wants it to go despite constantly saying your choices matter and can alter things.

I kind of agree with the choice option for the scene but also don't. It should have been path based. Corruption path most of what I have seen people say it makes sense, but if your not on the corruption path it shouldn't happen or at least not that soon or in that way. To me it's a big flaw in the storyline and completely tanks the non corruption/save the marriage path. At that point most people who were playing that way dropped the game or at least it seems that way since this thread got really quiet after most shared their thoughts on it. Now as someone else stated a few posts above it seems more like a waste of time and resources continuing to develop that path since most of what I've seen since is only people wanting Clara to get dicked down more and leave Alan. Maybe the dev should consider making an early ending for that path and focusing on the corruption route to make it better. At least that way he can get a rep for making a good corruption game to help with the success of future projects.
 

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It’s actually really simple, it’s called you give the player (us) choices before a sex scene. That way if we don’t want Clara to fuck Leon, she says no, and those of us that want her to, say YES! now nobody can complain because we made the choice “to fuck or not to fuck” :ROFLMAO:
Unless "to fuck" is a crucial part of the story. Given this is a netorare game it most likely is. I guess we'll see but I find it strange to reject netorare sex in a netorare game
 
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MoBy28

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Unless "to fuck" is a crucial part of the story. Given this is a netorare game it most likely is. I guess we'll see but I find it strange to reject netorare sex in a netorare game
There is part of the problem, netorare doesn't mean just fucking like most people assume. It's any type of sexual acts not with the specific partner(bf/spouse/LI). All the scenes prior to Leon where Clara is doing sexual acts with other men is netorare, so the Leon scene wasn't truly necessary for it to be an NTR story. Corruption usually ends up being cheating/fucking in NTR stories but all the corrupting acts are NTR as well. If Clara didn't fuck Leon it's still an NTR story due to all the other things she has and will have to do before the story concludes. Wouldn't be nearly as interesting to the main stream NTR fans but IMO if the dev could have pulled it off it would have more than likely been a great NTR story. Instead he went the route of most of the typical NTR stories which made it to me an average at best story so far. My opinion might change as the story progresses. We'll wait and see.
 

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It’s actually really simple, it’s called you give the player (us) choices before a sex scene. That way if we don’t want Clara to fuck Leon, she says no, and those of us that want her to, say YES! now nobody can complain because we made the choice “to fuck or not to fuck” :ROFLMAO:
That was actually part of what I was referring to about the dev making untrue statements about the story, saying your choices will decide if Clara stays faithful. With the Leon scene being unavoidable no matter your choices it showed me that as much as he emphizes it, the choices really don't matter as he is taking the story in the direction he wants it to go despite constantly saying your choices matter and can alter things.

I kind of agree with the choice option for the scene but also don't. It should have been path based. Corruption path most of what I have seen people say it makes sense, but if your not on the corruption path it shouldn't happen or at least not that soon or in that way. To me it's a big flaw in the storyline and completely tanks the non corruption/save the marriage path. At that point most people who were playing that way dropped the game or at least it seems that way since this thread got really quiet after most shared their thoughts on it. Now as someone else stated a few posts above it seems more like a waste of time and resources continuing to develop that path since most of what I've seen since is only people wanting Clara to get dicked down more and leave Alan. Maybe the dev should consider making an early ending for that path and focusing on the corruption route to make it better. At least that way he can get a rep for making a good corruption game to help with the success of future projects.
And when i wrote such things after that update, they threw crap at me! :ROFLMAO: xdd

A game should be a game, it should have choices - but it's just a kinetic story!
 

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This is a cuckold/cheating game. In the end Alan is going to find out or she will tell him everything. Alan will tell I understand you did what you had to do during the mission to succeed and be safe. Clara will feel relieved go to reach for her husband he puts his hand on her shoulder and stops her. Clara what's wrong Alan he says 1 thing I don't understand is how was fucking Leon necessary for the mission to succeed. Clara said I did it in a moment of weakness when I thought you cheated. Alans response so instead of talking to me about it and letting me explain. You jump into the one person I hates arms and fuck him. Alans balls drop he takes off his ring and walks out. Aftermath Alan hacks in the government system plants evidence against Leon is arrested for treason.
 
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The problem is not NTR but how it was done especially that the choices don't mean anything.

Examples:
1. Let's say there are two routes: corruption and faithful. If there had to be a sex scene with Leon, then there could have been at least some minor changes in the faithful route (Leon wouldn't cum in her pussy). This way it's exactly the same scene, no matter what the route your on, making the choices meaningless.
2. The morning after when the MC chooses whether or not to tell Clara about Ana. Whichever option you choose, you will get the same outcome - he won't say. Someone will say that in the option when you choose to say to Clara, you get -1 affinity towards Ana. But that's just the biggest stupidity in this game. You can also have -9999999 affinity to Ana, she will still try to kiss/seduce/separate you from Clara.

Can anyone imagine that in Being a DIK you have negative points towards a girl (Isabel, Saga...) and that she still wants to be with you?
It would be much better if that nig*** ripped Clara's ass or that this main boss opened Clara's gangbang season, than she had sex with Leon, because it turned out like a copy of A Promise Best Left Unkept.

I still think this game would be much better if it was played from the position of X. Because X is playing with everyone, managing how much and in which way Clara will be corrupted, and at the same time trying to rob Spectar or whatever the organization was called.
 

UpravDom

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Precisely! The next update may contain exactly what most readers are interested in! The mood of the readers will improve and the arguments will stop and there will be small questions . It seems to me that for some reason Alan is losing weight with each update. And Alan's face is so sad, sad. But Clara has turned into a socialite! Clara is energetic and sexy! Clara aroused Mr. Brown's great desire to hire her! ! Am I the only one who thinks that?
 
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