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Adviar5050

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If the what if story was in the 10 bucks tier, I would have subscribed and shared it already, but without it I find that unnecessary. And paying 30 bucks for a 10 minute update is too much for me.
Completely agree. I've always wondered if a developer offered a $10 a month fee where you got the update immediately would he get 3 times the number of supporters than a $30 tier? I don't know. I think they use such a high amount because they don't want people leaking it early.
 

What's Up Doc?

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Completely agree. I've always wondered if a developer offered a $10 a month fee where you got the update immediately would he get 3 times the number of supporters than a $30 tier? I don't know. I think they use such a high amount because they don't want people leaking it early.
IDK but the fact that what if stories are only available to $30/$100 subscribers seems a bit overpriced to me. He could have at least offered it to $15 subscribers. After all you're already putting enough delay.
 
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truthpolice

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IDK but the fact that what if stories are only available to $30/$100 subscribers seems a bit overpriced to me. He could have at least offered it to $15 subscribers. After all you're already putting enough delay.
The delay is for new subs to stop "heroes" like you :ROFLMAO: Old subs get it 3 days after release.
 
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And dev's wonder why they don't get support....

Shitty practices like that.
I never saw this dev wondering about that. Dunno which devs you talking about. If you play shitty by leaking then shitty practises are what you get.

It was all good at first until some twits here couldn't even wait 2 weeks to play and kept leaking before the dev could even monetize properly.
 

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I never saw this dev wondering about that. Dunno which devs you talking about. If you play shitty by leaking then shitty practises are what you get.

It was all good at first until some twits here couldn't even wait 2 weeks to play and kept leaking before the dev could even monetize properly.
This is a pirate forum after all tho
 

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I never saw this dev wondering about that. Dunno which devs you talking about. If you play shitty by leaking then shitty practises are what you get.

It was all good at first until some twits here couldn't even wait 2 weeks to play and kept leaking before the dev could even monetize properly.
They are 1000% wondering if it leaked beforehand and they added that after the fact...

There are a lot of dev's that have done this and do this, and for most it doesn't end well.

There are some that go even as far as watermarking builds, well one dev lost almost everything (shitty game anyway), the other got leaked and water marks removed.

Once people see that, that will easily stop new subscribers unless they nutty over this game.
 
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They are 1000% wondering if it leaked beforehand and they added that after the fact...

There are a lot of dev's that have done this and do this, and for most it doesn't end well.

There are some that go even as far as watermarking builds, well one dev lost almost everything (shitty game anyway), the other got leaked and water marks removed.

Once people see that, that will easily stop new subscribers unless they nutty over this game.
You are so wrong about this game though. I have been here since the early phase of the game and I have seen the game make only 200-400 bucks every time it got leaked. Once the leaks were delayed to a great extent, the earnings shot up. No rocket science here. Leaking early destroys a game's earning potential. It doesn't take an Einstein to figure that out unless that game already has a huge fan base or audience where it doesn't matter much if the game gets leaked early or not.

You don't believe me? Go asking around small devs if you want to. Just checking graphetron should give you a good picture of how leaks affect small studios. Its devs game and they get to decide how they wanna sell it. So far they aren't complaining with how its going for them. So I don't get why you are so upset about them being able to earn more subs or not when the devs are doing great work and doing their thing. Just waiting a couple more days won't make anyone's balls roll off.
 
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SonsOfLiberty

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You are so wrong about this game though. I have been here since the early phase of the game and I have seen the game make only 200-400 bucks every time it got leaked. Once the leaks were delayed to a great extent, the earnings shot up. No rocket science here. Leaking early destroys a game's earning potential. It doesn't take an Einstein to figure that out unless that game already has a huge fan base or audience where it doesn't matter much if the game gets leaked early or not.

You don't believe me? Go asking around small devs if you want to. Just checking graphetron should give you a good picture of how leaks affect small studios. Its devs game and they get to decide how they wanna sell it. So far they aren't complaining with how its going for them. So I don't get why you are so upset about them being able to earn more subs or not when the devs are doing great work and doing their thing. Just waiting a couple more days won't make anyone's balls roll off.
Upset lol...

Where do you see me saying I'm upset? I don't care about this game; I've only compressed it for folks...end of story.

And no, I'm not wrong about them worrying about leaks.
 

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Upset lol...

Where do you see me saying I'm upset? I don't care about this game; I've only compressed it for folks...end of story.

And no, I'm not wrong about them worrying about leaks.
For someone who doesn't care about this game, you surely talked a lot about the game and the dev's practises, none of which are really related to compressing a game :D

And I never said they didn't worry about leaks. If they didn't, would we be even talking about this? I was talking about the correlation between leaks and earnings.
 

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For someone who doesn't care about this game, you surely talked a lot about the game and the dev's practises, none of which are really related to compressing a game :D

And I never said they didn't worry about leaks. If they didn't, would we be even talking about this? I was talking about the correlation between leaks and earnings.
I said it's shitty practice as other dev do it too, and it is. It is no wonder many hate the Patreon/SS model and opt for Steam/Itch.io. And it stops a lot of new subs from people who have no intention of leaking the game and just wanting to play the game right now. A good example is/was Golden Mean (and many more), it wasn't a high dollar waiting period but a "full month".
 

truthpolice

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I said it's shitty practice as other dev do it too, and it is. It is no wonder many hate the Patreon/SS model and opt for Steam/Itch.io. And it stops a lot of new subs from people who have no intention of leaking the game and just wanting to play the game right now. A good example is/was Golden Mean (and many more), it wasn't a high dollar waiting period but a "full month".
Beggars can't be choosers. There is no point in saying something is shitty just cuz things aren't working the way you want to. The whole idea behind patreon is to support a game in development. Only a finished product can be published in steam/ io. Nobody is forcing people to pay in patreon. They can always wait until game is finished and buy from steam or itch.

Without money, you expect the devs to work so many hours a day on their game by simply breathing the air around them?

Even if it discourages few new subs, it is better than when game gets leaked within first few days. But if some people feel its life or death to wait 2 weeks or that its 'shitty' to wait to receive a game for free then they seriously need to reconsider some things in life :D
 
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