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Porn_Jesus

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I really want to see pregnancy thingy. Although I hope it is not a 'pregnant ending' thing no preg sex scene is feelsbadman.
The dev said you can have as many children as you want with the girls and it's not the end of the game. Well, maybe later when the girls have their own endings (in that case i assume you can trigger it when you want instead of getting forced) but it's meant to be a sandbox game in that regard which is nice. The children will even have some purpose and not just disappear into thin air like most games handle it but no details about that have been shared so far. It's ok tho, pregnancy isn't in the game yet but i'm hyped too how the whole thing will look later.~
 
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OfficialKeblo

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Very good game but i have a question. Does anyone realise the fact that this game and ''Long live the princess'' are VERY similiar ? In both games you have a pixie as your companion, Monster like creatures are called Fey and You use magical powers to control people and their feelings. After playing both games back to back, I was very curious and i wanted to ask if there is any connection between the developers ? Just curious, No offense to anyone :D
 

Master of Puppets

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I'm mostly responding to your comment at the end of the Gwen bit, just so you know.
He worries most about ruining the lives of Chloe and Gwen because he not only took them away from their previous life without any thought for their own lives (given the hectic situation in which this all came to be, it's understandable that he would be focusing on other things) but he also basically destroyed Choe's personality and autonomy (until recently) and broke up Gwen's engagement by making her love him. They are the only ones who are (currently) completely Shattered and Awakened, thus he hasn't had to deal with this issue before. He helped Lily scare off her clingy ex and she kept her bar and her life didn't change much other than falling in love with the MC (through deliberate mind control/suggestion) and being his getaway driver. Annie has had her life altered a little more with the MC taking ownership of the farm and (possibly/probably) improving it, which Annie would have been unable to do because she can't interact with humans due to her Fey ancestry, and he made her like him and look up to him as the new "farmer".
I hope I didn't explain to many things you already know, I have a habit of explaining too much in an explanation and I have enough experience with bad/mediocre writing to know how annoying it can be to get told stuff you already know full well.
Yes, but when what we've seen of Gwen's previous life so far is that she was engaged to an asshole she's better off without, 'Oh no I'm a horrible person for taking her away from him!' isn't what I'm going to be thinking. With Chloe, yes he has some work ahead of him fixing the mess he made of her, but patching her brain up a bit doesn't equate to sending her back to her old life where she was literally a Nazi. Why would you have any sympathy for the people they used to be, when the people they used to be were foot soldiers for an organisation devoted to mass murder, and the people they murdered almost included you and Pixie? Them being different people now is the only reason we should want anything to do with them. When MC briefly turned Chloe back to her old self, she tried to kill him, and I don't know if you noticed but it was hinted that before she met him she wasn't very nice to her sister either.
 

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Yes, but when what we've seen of Gwen's previous life so far is that she was engaged to an asshole she's better off without, 'Oh no I'm a horrible person for taking her away from him!' isn't what I'm going to be thinking. With Chloe, yes he has some work ahead of him fixing the mess he made of her, but patching her brain up a bit doesn't equate to sending her back to her old life where she was literally a Nazi. Why would you have any sympathy for the people they used to be, when the people they used to be were foot soldiers for an organisation devoted to mass murder, and the people they murdered almost included you and Pixie? Them being different people now is the only reason we should want anything to do with them. When MC briefly turned Chloe back to her old self, she tried to kill him, and I don't know if you noticed but it was hinted that before she met him she wasn't very nice to her sister either.
While I agree with you that they are basically foot soldiers for a Nazi-esqe organisation, they are still people with their own lives, people who we have basically wiped of any previous individuality or personality beyond madly in love and robotic compliance. Just because they are bad doesn't mean they aren't people. Now I don't mean to imply that you think the lives of those who are 'bad' don't matter or should just be killed, I just think I might me more naturally inclined to 'forgive', if you will. Also I missed the implied being "not very nice to her sister" you mentioned, unless you mean the little sister saying something like "you're being much nicer than usual", which I thought was because the MC told Chloe to "be nice to your sister" and that she took this as literally be nice to her sister. I also assume that Chloe was stern with her sister as she, as the older sibling, had to take care of her and make sure she doesn't get in trouble. And with Gwen, yes Mark might be a dick, though his reaction isn't entirely out of line given that his fiance just suddenly didn't come home from work and said she had fallen deeply in love with some guy she met a couple days ago and that she wants nothing to do with Mark anymore.
 
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HTYYHRK

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Very good game but i have a question. Does anyone realise the fact that this game and ''Long live the princess'' are VERY similiar ? In both games you have a pixie as your companion, Monster like creatures are called Fey and You use magical powers to control people and their feelings. After playing both games back to back, I was very curious and i wanted to ask if there is any connection between the developers ? Just curious, No offense to anyone :D
The only especially similar thing about them is the Lead system, and even that is not used the same way. Pixie companions have been in games for a long time since it's convenient to explain why they almost only interact with the player (they are small/the world at large doesn't know about them), the earliest example I can think of would be Navi from OOT but there might be earlier examples. Belle and Pixie also have quite different personalities, besides the insatiable hornyness. Fey is pretty much English vernacular at this point, I don't know exactly where it is sourced from but it's been in D&D since the 70's. Mind control is so common in porn games that it's a tag. It's not even used the same way - in CK it's just part of the plot, but LLtP uses it as part of the main mechanic of the game.

When I saw the lead mechanic I did think of LLtP (and truth be told it would be cool if it is used a little more like LLtP uses it in the future), but the other commonalities are pretty much porn game staples imo.
 
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Jibbers

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Hey just curious how do you bring up the console for this game? Or can you even?

Also just started playing this the other day, great game so far from what I've played
 

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While I agree with you that they are basically foot soldiers for a Nazi-esqe organisation, they are still people with their own lives, people who we have basically wiped of any previous individuality or personality beyond madly in love and robotic compliance. Just because they are bad doesn't mean they aren't people. Now I don't mean to imply that you think the lives of those who are 'bad' don't matter or should just be killed, I just think I might me more naturally inclined to 'forgive', if you will. Also I missed the implied being "not very nice to her sister" you mentioned, unless you mean the little sister saying something like "you're being much nicer than usual", which I thought was because the MC told Chloe to "be nice to your sister" and that she took this as literally be nice to her sister. I also assume that Chloe was stern with her sister as she, as the older sibling, had to take care of her and make sure she doesn't get in trouble. And with Gwen, yes Mark might be a dick, though his reaction isn't entirely out of line given that his fiance just suddenly didn't come home from work and said she had fallen deeply in love with some guy she met a couple days ago and that she wants nothing to do with Mark anymore.
When talking about mass murder, the word 'bad' doesn't really cut it. 'Monster' would be a more appropriate word. I'm not going to be sad about people like that being gone. I'm not saying I'd leave them like they are either, I've spoken previously about wanting to shape them into more rounded individuals. But bringing them back to how they were before? No way. The reason we forgive them is because they've changed. You don't forgive people who are unrepentant.
Regarding Alice, there's nothing concrete, but the impression I got was that it's a little more than just Chloe being strict with her (and being strict and being nice aren't mutually exclusive). She would rather go home alone than stay with Chloe, and Chloe says that she has a lot to make up for. I'm not saying I think she was abusive or anything, but I wouldn't be at all surprised to learn that Chloe didn't have much time for her. And MC should learn that, he really needs to take the initiative and find out a bit about both her and Gwen after the surprises they both gave him last time.
And regarding Mark, reacting to being dumped by tracking down your ex and trying to beat the tar out of her new boyfriend (not to mention threatening to kill her, completely nullifying any argument that he might think she's being coerced) is absolutely out of line in my opinion, he deserves what he gets. I think we've got a pretty good idea of what the deal is with him, he's a noisy asshole and Gwen can't tell the difference between that and a dominant guy. That would be my guess why Awaken worked on her and not Chloe, Gwen was already submissive before even meeting MC. Girls like that end up with guys like Mark all the time and it doesn't usually have a happy ending, he probably did her a favour breaking them up. And it's particularly annoying in that scene because you actually get given a choice between 'what have I done?' and 'he could be a problem', but it doesn't matter which one you choose, MC still complains about 'ruining her life'.
And of course none of this is even scratching the surface of if the MC himself is a bastard. He shouldn't be feeling any guilt about either of them in that case.
 

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And it's particularly annoying in that scene because you actually get given a choice between 'what have I done?' and 'he could be a problem', but it doesn't matter which one you choose, MC still complains about 'ruining her life'.
I'm hoping we've been accruing hidden karma points that will start influencing dialogue.
 

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Hey just curious how do you bring up the console for this game? Or can you even?
Shift and O should open the console on any Ren'Py game, if it doesn't the the developers disable it. You can turn it back on, but sometimes using it to cheat stats can mess the game up (like with Long Live the Princess).
 
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When talking about mass murder, the word 'bad' doesn't really cut it. 'Monster' would be a more appropriate word. I'm not going to be sad about people like that being gone. I'm not saying I'd leave them like they are either, I've spoken previously about wanting to shape them into more rounded individuals. But bringing them back to how they were before? No way. The reason we forgive them is because they've changed. You don't forgive people who are unrepentant.
Regarding Alice, there's nothing concrete, but the impression I got was that it's a little more than just Chloe being strict with her (and being strict and being nice aren't mutually exclusive). She would rather go home alone than stay with Chloe, and Chloe says that she has a lot to make up for. I'm not saying I think she was abusive or anything, but I wouldn't be at all surprised to learn that Chloe didn't have much time for her. And MC should learn that, he really needs to take the initiative and find out a bit about both her and Gwen after the surprises they both gave him last time.
And regarding Mark, reacting to being dumped by tracking down your ex and trying to beat the tar out of her new boyfriend (not to mention threatening to kill her, completely nullifying any argument that he might think she's being coerced) is absolutely out of line in my opinion, he deserves what he gets. I think we've got a pretty good idea of what the deal is with him, he's a noisy asshole and Gwen can't tell the difference between that and a dominant guy. That would be my guess why Awaken worked on her and not Chloe, Gwen was already submissive before even meeting MC. Girls like that end up with guys like Mark all the time and it doesn't usually have a happy ending, he probably did her a favour breaking them up. And it's particularly annoying in that scene because you actually get given a choice between 'what have I done?' and 'he could be a problem', but it doesn't matter which one you choose, MC still complains about 'ruining her life'.
And of course none of this is even scratching the surface of if the MC himself is a bastard. He shouldn't be feeling any guilt about either of them in that case.
You make some good points and I fully agree with the shaping them into better people route(?). We also don't really have confirmation of what the actual home situation was for Chloe and her sister so we kind of have to wait for the update that clarifies that to really know what kind of person Chloe was/is to those close to her. Mark did overreact (I forgot he threatened to kill Gwen, I thought he was just threatening the MC), but the choices between 'what have I done' and 'he could be a problem' was before Mark showed up. Whatever his thoughts were before Mark showed up probably changed after Mark threatened to kill him and Gwen, which is likely why it seems/is inconsequential, or it's just one of the typical VN choices that slightly change the text after the choice and nothing else. Also I have a tendencies to play devils advocate so I don't mean to be a dick or say that your opinion is wrong or something, I just feel a need to defend characters even if they don't deserve it.
 

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Shift and O should open the console on any Ren'Py game, if it doesn't the the developers disable it. You can turn it back on, but sometimes using it to cheat stats can mess the game up (like with Long Live the Princess).
I actually did not know that was how you open the console in Ren'Py so thank you. And never tried that game, but I like to live by a specific rule of thumb, whenever doing something that could result in a crash or unusable save data that only real option is to always make a backup save file first. That and if you can afford the space keep your .zip files as well.
 
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Jibbers

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So quick question; anyone know if there's a guide or walkthrough for this game at all, I really thought I'd seen someone mention one somewhere in this thread but I can't seem to find the posts. If not that's fine, I get stuff confused sometimes.
 

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Really love this game, gonna check out the patreon now, by the way, I am interested in how it may have been created... Got some ideas, cause looks wonderful. By the way, any now similar games to this ? And does the current version end with the buying of the farm and the pool thing with the pixy or is there still more to unlock right now ?
 
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TheBlueKnight

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Really love this game, gonna check out the patreon now, by the way, I am interested in how it may have been created...
and Koikatu!
And does the current version end with the buying of the farm and the pool thing with the pixy or is there still more to unlock right now ?
The lead and heart menus tell you if there's anything to do.
 
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