QQP_Purple

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You're kidding, right? Go to the 'games' section of the app store. You'll find fully 3d games rendered in HD, android devices are very capable of high performance gaming, the Renpy implementations are just shit.
They are capable NOW. But they weren't when the OS standards were designed. And those OS standards have stuck until today. That's why you have stuff like the maximum size of files you can fit for an exe on android. Unity games have the same problem where some of the games I am following now have to drop android because they are simply too large and can't compress any further.

The situation is quite remeniscent of the 2GB RAM per program limitation on 32 bit windows. If you are old enough to remember it. A limitation that was in fact quite sensible when it was implemented back in 1993 but hardware changed and windows didn't.

It's a sad fact but one so common that we in the industry have a name for it, technical debt.
 
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What good would that poll do either way?
It's fun to see other peoples opinions. Terrible_Writing_Advice1.png

Do you think the average Joe would know what any of those options mean?
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That's mean... how about
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Bigger files means better quality. To reduce size for pictures you loose something like when jpeg makes images darker or audio looses some of the subtle ambiance.

Yeah, sure. Of course anyone given the option would choose higher fidelity stuff.
Anyone with cheap speakers from the Dollar Tree are likely not going to care. Same for android users with like 2 gb of total memory :KEK: You would think if their phones can't handle visuals that they would at least want the audio to be good. Instead of mp3 they could have used ogg and kept it around 128 which is old napster quality.

But did you mention the difference in file size between each option (specially on Android)?
How much longer it would take for them to download the game each update?
Did you consider that not everyone even has the proper audio equipment to tell the fucking difference?
I have to wonder how big the Android user base is...
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Fuck it, at least put up a sample for each one of them, would ya?
That my good sir I can do, well I could if there was higher quality to scale down from :HideThePain:
Eh, fuck it... I'll use the rar file provided earlier
Love - Benjamin Tissot.mp3
Size 12.8
Length 5:36
Quality 320kbps

Converted to ogg
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However is the argument really because not everyone has nice things so no one should have nice things? Lowest common denominator?


Either way, I don't give a rat's ass about this whole audio kerfuffle, it just baffled me that back in the day (0.7.4 and before) the images and videos were 590MB and the audio was 424MB just by itself.
What's the point of having high quality audio and mid-low quality visuals?
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I've got a couple TB on a ssd, with a sound bar, and a flashy 4k monitor but the experience gets downgraded because someone has 2 GB storage, ear buds they got for a buck, and a 5x2" screen. Some people like compressing things down to shit while others would have it bloated like a fat pig but the option to choose would be delightful.

Even if I did care about the audio being compressed, went to make a proper poll for this type of shit.
I know for certain the poll would do abso-fucking-lutely nothing... Learned that the last time.
You share your opinion with like minded individuals and make a few friends along the way. Not everything has to have some convoluted grand master plan :WeSmart:

Time to tap out, already hear the moderators coming...
 

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The whole thing is moot anyway as different sounds have different minimum requirements for quality. It's the same as with textures. A coin does not need to have the same sort of texture quality as the face of the character flipping it. And equally something like background music or dialogue (if this game had any) has much different requirements than general sound effects. So pick what's best for what you're making.
 

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The whole thing is moot anyway as different sounds have different minimum requirements for quality. It's the same as with textures. A coin does not need to have the same sort of texture quality as the face of the character flipping it. And equally something like background music or dialogue (if this game had any) has much different requirements than general sound effects. So pick what's best for what you're making.
Tell that to a coin collector and you'll have hours of entertainment :p But this is just pointless fun as we are all far disconnected of the actual development decisions.

To be fair that's why a lot of games offer the option to uplift the connoisseurs from the common rabble. This includes old movies that have been rereleased in hd since someone had a smart idea to preserve the master copy before formatting it to fit on an old vhs tape.
 

girdeyordo

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Got this error as I’ve tried to play .94 with my .91 saves. I’m using the .94 compressed alpha version.
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That's a renpy error. Your save was from renpy 7.4 while you are using renpy 7.3.
I think the error is safe to ignore, if not try extracting the renpy files and not just the game folder.
 

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Sorry for the grammar.
I have some problem with the leads.
With the eldritch key (think backwards); i already done it but it does'nt count it as finished and i have the same issue with the org passcard lead, is this a bug ?
 

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Shouldn't there be a NTR tag above?
Technically, yes. But, the NTR tag on this sight usually refers to MC losing his woman or the corruption of a female MC. Not the MC stealing someone else's lover. And the times you tell the girls to have sex with another man don't get MC excited. So, I think they'd be "sharing" if they were shown. But, they're not and that (as far I know) goes a very long way in what tags a game/VN receives.
 

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Technically, yes. But, the NTR tag on this sight usually refers to MC losing his woman or the corruption of a female MC. Not the MC stealing someone else's lover. And the times you tell the girls to have sex with another man don't get MC excited. So, I think they'd be "sharing" if they were shown. But, they're not and that (as far I know) goes a very long way in what tags a game/VN receives.
There are a lot of games here with ntr tag and are about the NC stealing.
It can also help for those who openly look for this kind of stuff.
 

girdeyordo

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Shouldn't there be a NTR tag above?
Unlikely but you could try reporting a tag correction. There aren't any scenes that involve other men so it's which is stealing someone else's woman. It was teased about jealous husbands and lovers but like many things nothing ever came of it.

Could change by 2025
 

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Technically, yes. But, the NTR tag on this sight usually refers to MC losing his woman or the corruption of a female MC. Not the MC stealing someone else's lover. And the times you tell the girls to have sex with another man don't get MC excited. So, I think they'd be "sharing" if they were shown. But, they're not and that (as far I know) goes a very long way in what tags a game/VN receives.
Well there was the time Luna was seen with her son Nuli, even though the internal memos call him her son it's not "cannon" CursedFlame91 :p .
https://f95zone.to/threads/corrupted-kingdoms-v0-9-4-arcgames.31912/post-4160254

However the scene is so brief it would be a disappointment to anyone who really wanted NTR.
 
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It's really a fucking mess when people just use the term NTR but don't specify which one of them.
Netori > You steal someone else's partner.
Netorare > A partner is stolen from you.

Right, but this site doesn't have those tags. If we go by this tag list then we can see that the tags used here are.

Cheating [A significant other having sex with someone other than their partner.]
Ntr [Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.]

This game is not supposed to have netorare, it has been stated by Arc before and he knows adding that would cause a major shitstorm (WHO THE FUCK ADDS NETORARE IN A HAREM GAME?)

Although...
Yes, when you meet Luna you catch her having sex with one of her so- male subjects.
And the only scene with Chastity is actually you finding an old sex tape of her, again, having sex with someone else other than the MC.
Also there's some choices where you can ask some girls to "use their bodies" to persuade someone else, it's just text and the choice doesn't have any lasting effects.

Are those explicitly designed to cause jealousy? Eh, idk.
There's probably some folks that would flip their shit if every single one of the girls wasn't a virgin before they met the MC.

But to summarize, this game isn't focused in netorare.
Netori on the other hand... Yeah, the MC has a thing for milfs with shitty husbands.

Minor display bug:
When you give Molly the ingredients, it keeps showing Roxy while Molly's talking
Already caught and will be fixed on the next version.
 

GraveXMachina

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No, for netori people usually use the cheating tag. The ntr tag in this forum is used for netorare.
This is confusing...I thought netori and netorare were the same thing.
The MC is the one stealing using mind control, so doesn't that count?
Isn't NTR just a general term for stealing regardless who does it?
 

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This is confusing...I thought netori and netorare were the same thing.
The MC is the one stealing using mind control, so doesn't that count?
Isn't NTR just a general term for stealing regardless who does it?
There are 3 types of NTR. You have netorare, that is when the mc's love interest is stolen. You have netori when the mc is the one stealing and you have netorase, that is when the mc is the one pushing the girls to have sex with other men. But in this forum, ntr just means netorare. People have said for a long time that the tags need to be updated but I don't think that will ever happen.
 
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It's really a fucking mess when people just use the term NTR but don't specify which one of them.
Netori > You steal someone else's partner.
Netorare > A partner is stolen from you.

Right, but this site doesn't have those tags. If we go by this tag list then we can see that the tags used here are.

Cheating [A significant other having sex with someone other than their partner.]
Ntr [Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.]

This game is not supposed to have netorare, it has been stated by Arc before and he knows adding that would cause a major shitstorm (WHO THE FUCK ADDS NETORARE IN A HAREM GAME?)

Although...
Yes, when you meet Luna you catch her having sex with one of her so- male subjects.
And the only scene with Chastity is actually you finding an old sex tape of her, again, having sex with someone else other than the MC.
Also there's some choices where you can ask some girls to "use their bodies" to persuade someone else, it's just text and the choice doesn't have any lasting effects.

Are those explicitly designed to cause jealousy? Eh, idk.
There's probably some folks that would flip their shit if every single one of the girls wasn't a virgin before they met the MC.

But to summarize, this game isn't focused in netorare.
Netori on the other hand... Yeah, the MC has a thing for milfs with shitty husbands.


Already caught and will be fixed on the next version.
I find it kind of amusing his most wanna steal and claim every girl, but get triggered when someone else does it.

So as far as I understand this:
Netori = cheating tag = MC steals from others.
Netorare = NTR tag = others steal from MC

Did I get this right?

Also...a harem game where the MC would have to compete with other guys to get the girls would be an interesting game.
Earn them girls though effort and not just fall onto your lap, figuratively and literally. xD
 
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