Java Corrupted Saviors [Release 70b] [CSDev]

[wibblywarble]

I know this game doesn't have "graphics," but I would love if the portraits had a lot more variations and flavor to reflect what's actually happening to them.

A lot of the portraits seem to be AI generated, which makes sense as it makes it easier to just get graphics out there without having to worry too much.
If there were artists willing to work on it for the fun of it I'm sure that could help, but I also am pretty sure the dev is focusing more on the bigger stuff. Smaller things like that may come later, or be solely left for the community to mod in themselves, which is perfectly fine.

 

[sbarabaus]

could someone explain how to achieve anything in the game?

i can only lose battles, buy updgrades and lose more battles

 

[Qazex Saw]

Is there like a wiki somewhere? Because while fun, it's kinda confusing as heck too.
It looks like each actions will buff or debuff your next action, but can't really tell how that works other than 'repeated actions have less effect'. Got a 'at least 1,000 expo damage' and the best I got is around 300ish I think?

 

[haksaw]

I've been having trouble getting some of the punisher susceptibilities to 1000%

My usual tactics for everything but Confidence is to set up an early orgy (before extermination is done). Girls will pop out with 20+ levels of openings, bumped to 30+ once you capture one of them. Then capture only one, wait till she has 1 turn left, capture next one and so on. 2 free ones will be firing their skills with high lvls for good increase in % across the board.

For Con you need a different setup. Make commander with full bonus captures and ability to capture flying chosen. Ideally also with all 4 dmg types. Goal is to get targeted girl to 10 or better 11 lvl of Pain with a single use of commander capture. Usually not that hard to do, after initial capture she will have a good amount of opening levels, then capture her again, while keeping 2 others from using high lvl skills (either capture them too, but not with commander, or leave alone, depends on what you manage to do). Then when the targeted girl escapes, capture another one (to keep the battle going) and use your commander 2 remaining times. If she has 10 lvls of pain, a single escape will add 300% iirc, so you will get 700+% from a single day with this.

 

[alri]

could someone explain how to achieve anything in the game?

i can only lose battles, buy updgrades and lose more battles

Is there like a wiki somewhere? Because while fun, it's kinda confusing as heck too.
It looks like each actions will buff or debuff your next action, but can't really tell how that works other than 'repeated actions have less effect'. Got a 'at least 1,000 expo damage' and the best I got is around 300ish I think?

The basic game mechanics are explained in text files in the game folder, but I also found this guide to be helpful.

The game is basically all about racking up the multipliers due to the exponential nature of trauma and circumstance levels, but you need some days at first in the loop to setup battles with longer surround chains.

 

[MoarDakka123]

could someone explain how to achieve anything in the game?

i can only lose battles, buy updgrades and lose more battles

What exactly do you consider winning a battle?

 

[Kalloi]

I'm not sure if this is just because I'm rusty and it's been a while since I last played and I forgot stuff, but I've been having trouble getting some of the punisher susceptibilities to 1000%. With hypnosis, the problem I run into is that it seems like she can only use the related ability 4 times and once all 4 are used she can't use it anymore, so that makes the increase pretty slow. I'm on day 35 so I have plenty of wiggle room, but I don't want to spend WAY too much time on her and ignore the others. So far I've been struggling to get the hypnosis increase above 30-36%, and I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions or strategies on how to do this.

In case you need to see it, here's the chosen:

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Purity is the one I'm trying to get to 1000%.

Despair and Purity are rivals, and everyone is bitter enemies with Mirage.

Besides forsaken or orgies, imo one of the best ways to raise punisher percentage is to use the respective punisher commanders to raise it themselves,

Besides doing a lot of damage on their own, their multiplier from their respective damage type is still active even before you reach 1000%, so it’s good to start off the battle with them so you’re guaranteed to get some decent % from the beginning of the battle and have the chosen already using stronger forms of their T3 early

In the case for innocence/hypnosis
If I’m not trying to get an orgy off and just trying to get 1000% for hypnosis, I make a 2-3 turn hypnosis commander with as much captures charges as I can and ambush the chosen im trying to raise % with.
Making a commander with such low turns intentionally makes it so her pleasure won’t ruin raising her other damage types like INJU or Hate, and when she escapes she’ll probably be in the 1000+ range and once she fantasizes she’ll bump it up to 10k, meaning you can do a force orgasm to raise her INJU up if it’s still not rising a lot on its own. From there it’s good to rely on surrounding that chosen that using the commander on her.

It’s also good to ease up on the surrounding the chosen you’re trying to raise hypnosis % at times, giving her 1 turn or more to use fantasize before surrounding her again, using one of the spare charges on her Allies to give them a lot of surrounding turns for later to use that ally as a buffer for your target chosen to fantasize the rest of her trauma stats. Only using the capture charges on your target when you can’t surround them

If you pull things off right, even when she fantasizes once or twice on a certain trauma type early in battle, she’ll do it again on those just because her earlier fantasies isn’t enough to completely null the trauma

 

[Kalloi]

I know this game doesn't have "graphics," but I would love if the portraits had a lot more variations and flavor to reflect what's actually happening to them.

Recently I’ve been testing some of this with my portrait pack since the coming release will have lots of alternate outfits and hairstyles for some characters and I already drawn alternative expressions for their civilian forms!

Other than that, I think it would be cool as well if there were some things like small overlay effects for injuries or even a clothes destruction type of feature… ( I say that fully realizing the drawing hell I would have to subject myself to….)

One thing I also think would be interesting would be a slight overlay of scenery that changed with each city, I wouldn’t mind drawing that also, although there would be the potential issue of the text being hard to see

 

[wibblywarble]

Besides forsaken or orgies, imo one of the best ways to raise punisher percentage is to use the respective punisher commanders to raise it themselves,

Besides doing a lot of damage on their own, their multiplier from their respective damage type is still active even before you reach 1000%, so it’s good to start off the battle with them so you’re guaranteed to get some decent % from the beginning of the battle and have the chosen already using stronger forms of their T3 early

In the case for innocence/hypnosis
If I’m not trying to get an orgy off and just trying to get 1000% for hypnosis, I make a 2-3 turn hypnosis commander with as much captures charges as I can and ambush the chosen im trying to raise % with.
Making a commander with such low turns intentionally makes it so her pleasure won’t ruin raising her other damage types like INJU or Hate, and when she escapes she’ll probably be in the 1000+ range and once she fantasizes she’ll bump it up to 10k, meaning you can do a force orgasm to raise her INJU up if it’s still not rising a lot on its own. From there it’s good to rely on surrounding that chosen that using the commander on her.

It’s also good to ease up on the surrounding the chosen you’re trying to raise hypnosis % at times, giving her 1 turn or more to use fantasize before surrounding her again, using one of the spare charges on her Allies to give them a lot of surrounding turns for later to use that ally as a buffer for your target chosen to fantasize the rest of her trauma stats. Only using the capture charges on your target when you can’t surround them

If you pull things off right, even when she fantasizes once or twice on a certain trauma type early in battle, she’ll do it again on those just because her earlier fantasies isn’t enough to completely null the trauma

How do forsaken raise punisher percentages?
I’ve never really quite been able to figure out how to use forsaken effectively, as while they can do a lot of damage, you can’t do much to the other chosen while the forsaken is busy.

 

[sbarabaus]

What exactly do you consider winning a battle?

my problem is understanding the main mechanics
i just keep fighting with the same 4 options that do nothing unless i spend a ton of points to buy and max another guy who'll fight instead of me

i guess i should learn how to beat a vulnerability, but i just dealt over 100k to a girl and i don't see nothing new

also... how should i read the distortion plans? i have no idea what the symbols mean, not to mention what i'm trying to achieve there

 

[haksaw]

i just keep fighting with the same 4 options that do nothing unless i spend a ton of points to buy and max another guy who'll fight instead of me

Not instead, he will hold girls while you are going at them. But yes, that's the general idea - you won't achieve anything without commanders.

i guess i should learn how to beat a vulnerability

It's written in the info.

how should i read the distortion plans?

Don't mess with distortions until you're comfortable with ordinary game mechanic. It's basically a hard mode.

 

[sbarabaus]

lol, the game ended. i literally achieved nothing and still have no idea what i could've done

 

[haksaw]

still have no idea what i could've done

Reload the same day to try smth different? It took me like 20 hours to make a first full run, maybe even more.

 

[dekeche]

Can anyone explain the "Per x Performed" punishes abilities? Like, what does Rising Publicist actually do?

 

[Kalloi]

Can anyone explain the "Per x Performed" punishes abilities? Like, what does Rising Publicist actually do?

I need a bit more to know what you mean but rising publicist is pretty simple, decreases the disgrace of the forsaken using by 2% each time, meaning it’s one of the few ways to reverse disgrace on a forsaken

 

[theregularmack]

Havent been able to find a page where this is referenced, but is the Causal Projection upgrade broken or do I just not understand it correctly.

"This adds a Retreat option during battle which ends the fight prematurely, but grants +1 Evil Energy for every five full surround or capture turns added up among the Chosen." <If I surround "axiom" for 2 turns at the beginning, "prayer" for 3 turns with a commander, then "fury" for 2 and "axiom" once again for 3 , i should get 2 EE. Correct?

The reason I ask is because I'm getting none regardless of how many turns theyre surrounded.
(side note: im very early in, prolly not even past loop 1)

 

[Qazex Saw]

The basic game mechanics are explained in text files in the game folder, but I also found this guide to be helpful.

The game is basically all about racking up the multipliers due to the exponential nature of trauma and circumstance levels, but you need some days at first in the loop to setup battles with longer surround chains.

Oh that's super helpful thanks.
I was able to sorta stumble ahead a bit more alone (after several failed attempts at making a not-useless commander lol) and get a chosen to make 2EE but that was about it.
But that openings explanation makes things make SO much sense. I was wondering why sometimes I couldn't go past opening 1~2 and sometimes they seemed to randomly shoot up to opening 4+.

The text files are also great help. Can't believe I missed those lol.

 

[Kalloi]

Havent been able to find a page where this is referenced, but is the Causal Projection upgrade broken or do I just not understand it correctly.

"This adds a Retreat option during battle which ends the fight prematurely, but grants +1 Evil Energy for every five full surround or capture turns added up among the Chosen." <If I surround "axiom" for 2 turns at the beginning, "prayer" for 3 turns with a commander, then "fury" for 2 and "axiom" once again for 3 , i should get 2 EE. Correct?

The reason I ask is because I'm getting none regardless of how many turns theyre surrounded.
(side note: im very early in, prolly not even past loop 1)

I think it's just a misunderstanding, it's not cumulative like total amount of surround turns over the course of the battle, it means in that moment.

ie. If you surround or capture Axiom and she has 5 turns left of being surrounded, you can "retreat" ending the battle early and getting 1 free EE.

-Surrounding Axiom and she has 10 turns left and you retreat you'd get 2 EE

-Surounding Axiom and Prayer at the same time and they both have 5 turns left you will get 2 EE for retreating

like this kind of way, hope it helps and your first loop goes well!

 

[ManlyMann]

I think I've hit upon a bug. Faith is hitting 10k circumstance damage in INJ, but her tier 1 break isn't happening. I'm not exactly complaining since I didn't WANT to break that yet, but it feel a bit weird that I can sodomize her without triggering Violence or Begging beforehand. I mean, that's not supposed to be possible... right?

 

[Kalloi]

I think I've hit upon a bug. Faith is hitting 10k circumstance damage in INJ, but her tier 1 break isn't happening. I'm not exactly complaining since I didn't WANT to break that yet, but it feel a bit weird that I can sodomize her without triggering Violence or Begging beforehand. I mean, that's not supposed to be possible... right?

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It depends on how faith reached 10k INJU, did she reach it from a specialty commander or a forsaken? If so then that's normal.

If she reached that from just you surroundong her, then that's definetly a bug and you should post your save so CSDev can take a look at it