Oh hallelujah, the game warns you when certain actions will cause certain breaks now. That solves so many problems, nice improvement. That's a lot less save scumming needed.
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I can't start the second loop of my campaign, game dies after the first fight (against Prayer) of the second loop to be exact. Game version is 34c, save is attached. I'm running the game under Xubuntu 20.04, just in case that is relevant.
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Run custom character campaign though so got swap characters with animalistic option unfortunately. At least that's what I think makes sense.
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I'm just happy to know I'm not the only one doing best possible day replaying one day lol.That's what I call waiting. By doing I mean doing with the girls, do you break any cores or at least +2 bonuses before getting 5EE commander? Yes, of course you don't need to savescum to get T1 breaks with 5EE commander, but what's the point, isn't the game about number crunching and getting the best possible results every single day? It's not uncommon for me to spend an hour replaying the same day over and over with like 5 different saves of different outcomes before I settle on the best achievable result and move on.
Well, I don't know, I've just started playing not long ago. But that also may depend on tactics, since the game is very snowbally and everything can change in an instant. In a recent run I took it slow with dancing around distortion and it seemed like a pretty bad situation closing in on day 20, but then I raked in 350EE on day 19. Not bad
I for example rely on multiple captures with commanders and keeping girls surrounded all the time, not allowing even a single turn out of it so they won't use their skills. I only use upgraded commanders when required for vuln breaks. But I see some actually rely on them, don't even know how that works, not being able to capture 2 girls with commander at once will break my strategy completely.
Getting EE early is not a hard thing to do with the 5EE characters or Early game Temptation Forsaken if you got a decent one.
The issue is when you try for multiple distortion on higher loops with multiple Superior<-(mainly these peeps are a pain) to deal with. Plus you also try to make everyone friends so you can get bonus later down the game from training. Later into the campaign runs when its all superior or majority superior playing around the 5EE strat seems to make more sense, as you will struggle with the loop debuff + superior + distortion to get breaks. Maybe I really really messed up my custom chosen for my campaign, but some of the Chosen Circumstance level really really dont go up especially when you go for distortions even with circumstance multipliers.
Personally if I ranked distortion from hardest to easiest when trying to do 2x to 3x varying distortions and breaking them FIRST it would be
I got ask though, does anyone else ever actively do rampancy. Like the EE is nice, but as a forsaken its super annoying to deal with. Just chuck them off for achievements points right after. Note though I havent tried release 34 and its new change to t1 so maybe its a little easier for some distortion, been waiting on 35 release. Though I totally agree using 2 EE cost character is not a terrible idea to get some early +2 EE and even more when its early loops as well.
Personally my loop play is try to break the t1 or ambitious 2 with low EE 2/5 commander if I can (key word on can) or save otherwise till network as well. Definately break t2 by then and then get the profile to actually state the distortion and then either save up for a forsaken that can do the job or a high level commander.
The issue is when you try for multiple distortion on higher loops with multiple Superior<-(mainly these peeps are a pain) to deal with. Plus you also try to make everyone friends so you can get bonus later down the game from training. Later into the campaign runs when its all superior or majority superior playing around the 5EE strat seems to make more sense, as you will struggle with the loop debuff + superior + distortion to get breaks. Maybe I really really messed up my custom chosen for my campaign, but some of the Chosen Circumstance level really really dont go up especially when you go for distortions even with circumstance multipliers.
Personally if I ranked distortion from hardest to easiest when trying to do 2x to 3x varying distortions and breaking them FIRST it would be
- Temptation (no circumstance multipliers at all except from other Chosen, using temp forsaken on Chosen you are trying to Temp distort early on also ends up weird as you get instances where you got 10k pleasure and 1k EXPO making it extremely hard to get more circumstance as you get the debuff multiplier from the 10k pleasure high level of circumstance. Kinda forcing you to deal with other Forsaken before you can really work on this Chosen's breaks.
- It is nice that you get to deal dignity damage though meaning that sometimes choosing this chosen first and then dealing with other Forsaken like Negotiation/Aversion as they can't really touch Dignity as much.
- Rampancy (Easier than temp since circumstance multiplier instead of trauma multi like temptation)
- Negotiation (easier breaks with all good multipliers + you get break dignity t1 so you get some exposure)
- Aversion (Easy for reason why Temptation is hard, you get all circumstance multipliers = easy breaks)
I got ask though, does anyone else ever actively do rampancy. Like the EE is nice, but as a forsaken its super annoying to deal with. Just chuck them off for achievements points right after. Note though I havent tried release 34 and its new change to t1 so maybe its a little easier for some distortion, been waiting on 35 release. Though I totally agree using 2 EE cost character is not a terrible idea to get some early +2 EE and even more when its early loops as well.
Personally my loop play is try to break the t1 or ambitious 2 with low EE 2/5 commander if I can (key word on can) or save otherwise till network as well. Definately break t2 by then and then get the profile to actually state the distortion and then either save up for a forsaken that can do the job or a high level commander.
Have you considered making it so that you can "sell/trade" forsaken for these plots or value or for some event/bonus/benefit. As you go down the loops to higher # you get a lot of forsaken and this ends up blotting the screen as you can only get 5x and then you're scrolling 4-5 pages down. Though I do enjoy the list of corrupted Saviors. Ha title drop
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Some good suggestions here, thanks for the feedback.Those goals are very misleading. Before reading this thread I never realised they are supposed to be a tutorial teaching you what to doAt first I thought they are bonus objectives giving you EE, but that was not the case. Then I thought they were things triggering those post battle scenes, but one day they just disappeared and scenes kept going on. So I was like "Huh, what was that green stuff all about?" And I actually went out of my way to complete them even though I didn't need it and wasted couple of days (the goal wanted me to break T2 of a girl I wasn't working on IIRC, so I already did an orgy before goin for her T2 and moving goals forward).
Add info on what you need to do to hit next EE increasing treshold to info screen, that is still very unclear. That information alone is enough to point in the right direction.
Btw, as long as info goes. Thing I really miss is something like this:
A way to see vulnerabilities without examining all the time and, most importantly, what color each girl uses for her voice lines. Having blue haired girl talk in green and green haired girl talk in orange is a nightmare =) Don't know if it's possible to layer images, but at least a colored border will be a godsend, my brain can't work around all the mixed signals -_-You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
As for the new players, I think the best advice is just replaying first 10-15 days over and over instead of trying to do a complete run. That's a good thing to learn the game. Good goal is "break all core T1s before day 15". It's an easy enough thing to achieve if you know how to play, but very hard if you don't, so try until you do.
This is an interesting idea, too. I have had the vague idea that the Morality/Innocence and Confidence/Dignity Distortions might be less direct-combat-related since they don't have an associated surrounded sinful tactic.
That's right, you provided me with all the necessary information to find the bug!
This might be trickier than you'd think. In order to be 100% reliable without fully simulating the battle beforehand, it'd need to make sure that the player has an overwhelming advantage - probably even more than the 5 EE commander.
This mockup looks really good! And it should be within my coding abilities as well. I think I'll end up doing something very similar to this.
Yeah, this is the option I'm leaning toward as well.
Thank you for the encouragement! I suppose I should try to make it so that people who want to support the game don't have to jump through hoops to do so.
The current plan is to tie it to collectibles, but then also give an option on the main menu to browse all the collectibles you've found across all your runs, and browsing the collectibles like that will also display the flavor text. So, you can flip through it without it being intrusive.
I hadn't heard about this one, surprisingly. Looks like it has actual gameplay?
Good catch, I'll make sure the text is a little smarter about reflecting what happened.
Saving up for a 5 EE commander is a crutch, but I think it's an alright starting point. From the feedback I got before I implemented the guide, I got the impression that a lot of players would (1) spend all their EE on commanders as soon as possible, and (2) keep progressing in the same save file even after unsuccessful battles. Because they didn't know how to make good use of cheap commanders, it would take them until Day 20 or later to stumble upon the right sequence of moves to cause a T1 Break. And because they're used to grindy trainer games, they'd overestimate the effect of the ANGST gained from the unsuccessful battles, leading them to conclude "It took over 10 days worth of 3 EE commanders to grind this girl's status up until I made any progress. This is unreasonable." In order to teach new players how to play the game, I think it makes more sense to guide them toward using excessive resources at accomplish a goal at first, and then they can gradually realize that they can achieve that goal with fewer resources if they play skillfully.
This was a weird bug. Normally, loading the game always puts you onto the shop screen, and there's an error in the logic that causes it to throw you straight into battle, which causes problems when it happens in the middle of a playthrough. I'll fix it in the next version. In the meantime, you can make it work by loading the Day 51 save first, then loading the Day 1 save from there.
Next up is animal ear Chosen, which are basically the next tier above Superior. I've posted more info about it on my SubscribeStar (which you can view even if you don't have an account).as much as i like what the current one brought, i wonder what's gonna be in next update tho?
The achievement bonuses for sacrificing Forsaken are meant to provide incentive to trim your roster down, but I suppose the diminishing returns make that less rewarding after awhile. I have thought about being able to send your Forsaken off on "missions" of some sort, so that might actually work well to make it so that you're actually getting something worthwhile in return rather than just throwing them away.
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hey dev, just to clarify: wasn't saying that to downplay how important this current update is, update 34 definitely propped this game up where it was sorely needed for people, just very curious what this evolves into from here, i really do hope you enjoy creating it.
Absolutely, this update was super helpful. I really struggle with juggling a lot of separate bits of information, so the Distortion markers in particular made things A LOT better for me.and
hey dev, just to clarify: wasn't saying that to downplay how important this current update is, update 34 definitely propped this game up where it was sorely needed for people, just very curious what this evolves into from here, i really do hope you enjoy creating it.
The mission sound interesting. I definately agree that the diminishing return is less rewarding for achievements. You got burn double digits of Forsaken to even get any EE thats actually worth it. Then you got deal with the training modifier after if they were friends with others and so forth so it was almost never worth it.
There's an EE-gain to ditching Forsaken? Though I've never forsaken a Forsaken in campaign, so I guess it makes sense that I've never noticed.
Well, if there are diminishing returns (I'm assuming it's a static number), maybe a multiplier for total Expertise, or something like that?
Well, if there are diminishing returns (I'm assuming it's a static number), maybe a multiplier for total Expertise, or something like that?
Its like 1 for ditching first one and then you need ditch like three more for another 1 EE more so you start with 2 EE lol. Its really not worth it besides the first one i guess
Depends. I keep chosen with distortions but get rid of those I know I will not use for anything. After 3-4 runs you will probably have more than enough, and then start grabbing superior ones.
Ohhh, I figured you meant "diminishing returns" as in it's a (small) static number that becomes more or less irrelevant as the bigger numbers start flowing in. Well then, yeah, that's... not great. I definitely expected a bigger number, too.
Sorry to necro this topic, but am I missing something? Can't seem to get it to load, not as a roster or team or what have you.Here it is! One thing to note is that with making them with the campaign mode chosen maker is that I'm only able to export them as a campaign mode team/save so it will be in campaign mode when you import them to the game but other than that they will show up in the same order and have the same pattern so you will be able to follow the guide fully!
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hmm, I just double checked it on my end and it seems like everything is working properly (current version- 34c)
It's a team file so all you should have to do is pick "import" in the main menu and it should show up, and once you pick it, the game will load the team in the last save slot.
If there's still a problem, send a screenshot or explain what you're doing specifically and I'll do my best to help out!
I'm struggling to figure out what to do with the Forsaken. What sort of Forsaken would be the most effective? What should you do for the Forsaken's training? What are you aiming for? I've read the guides, but I'm still wondering these things.
I found that in loop 2 it was pretty good to have one with low single-digit costs (high disgrace) to speed through the early game, that deals a single kind of damage. Because Forsaken capture for so long and repeatedly, you can extend early fights quite a bit and get all 3 Chosen out there generating EE quickly, since this is a function of how many turns combat lasts.
I also kept a low Disgrace one around and put her in all the Positions that allow them to do level 4 breaks. Currently I have one that does:
Harbinger: Charming Breeder (+41.0% victim max Motivation)
Harbinger: Adaptive Hypnotist (+0.082 own Expertise gain multiplier per Hypnosis)
Harbinger: Timid Harvester (-32% victim Obedience)
Harbinger: Hardworking Publicist (+820% victim trauma damage as Forsaken)
Now, she costs 287 EE, but she's not supposed to be used repeatedly--she can just be used twice in a loop to break lvl 4s in the proper order.
Beyond that, I don't really know, as this is my first time trying out the Loops.