Java Corrupted Saviors [Release 70b] [CSDev]

[Jerolk]

So, having played several days of this game, and still barely scratching the surface, I have a fresh plan for my current chosen in a fresh campaign....

The problem is that friendship events can ruin distortions! That's a real pain in the ass let me tell you. I didn't see any chatter on the topic, so I thought i'd bring it up. That makes for another serious thing to try to keep track of if you're shooting for a three team distortion with friendships.

Also, a quick question: if you've managed to trigger a distortion, do you still need to maintain their level of vuln breaks to keep it? If so, that'll make it extremely hard to hold onto say, aversion, if a friend is going to innocence break them via an event at any point.

 

[dekeche]

So, having played several days of this game, and still barely scratching the surface, I have a fresh plan for my current chosen in a fresh campaign....

The problem is that friendship events can ruin distortions! That's a real pain in the ass let me tell you. I didn't see any chatter on the topic, so I thought i'd bring it up. That makes for another serious thing to try to keep track of if you're shooting for a three team distortion with friendships.

Also, a quick question: if you've managed to trigger a distortion, do you still need to maintain their level of vuln breaks to keep it? If so, that'll make it extremely hard to hold onto say, aversion, if a friend is going to innocence break them via an event at any point.

I believe that if you've triggered the distortion, breaking T1 or T2 vulnerabilities invalidates the distortion. So for temptation, if you trigger violence or start an impregnation/sodomy action against them, you'll loose the distortion. As for other chosen interfering in the distortion, I don't believe that's possible after the distortion starts. In my expericence at least. However, I likewise am not experienced how this interference works mechanically.

 

[Jerolk]

I believe that if you've triggered the distortion, breaking T1 or T2 vulnerabilities invalidates the distortion. So for temptation, if you trigger violence or start an impregnation/sodomy action against them, you'll loose the distortion. As for other chosen interfering in the distortion, I don't believe that's possible after the distortion starts. In my experience at least. However, I likewise am not experienced how this interference works mechanically.

So, a couple of things I did notice; Once a distortion starts, the chosen are immune to developing the T3 break (the adaptation breaks) of their forbidden vulns, but prior to that, a vuln break can occur if you raise their traumas too heavily. This can be *particularly* difficult to manage if you are trying to activate an aversion distortion. In my case, it was the first of the three I was activating, and then I spent several days very carefully juggling all my Chosen to keep them from breaking T3s that would invalidate their distortions.

The same goes for friendship events that can break vulns, specifically innocence seems to be an issue in the events. What i'd recommend is that you include a flag that if the chosen in question hasn't already broken that vuln, that it instead be respected to avoid messing up distortions. If you're trying to carefully manage your friendships AND manage a triple distortion team, it can get very *very* hairy.

In the end I had to give up one of the three friendships to make my particular configuration work.

 

[Name36346]

This can be *particularly* difficult to manage if you are trying to activate an aversion distortion.

There is no requirement to sit through entire orgy - you just need to initiate it. Just retreat immediately after, if these trauma rises are problematic for desired setup.

 

[Deleted member 2541808]

Is there a concrete basic guide, cause I was trial and erroring this and I screwed up the distortion plans. I saw something about chosen info carrying over so I'm not sure if I can do anything about it. and I don't get approach. I've very frustrated cause I wanna enjoy this game but I keep bashing my head into walls for hours until I don't wanna play anymore. And before anyone says "scroll" or "search" for this info, I did. There are a bunch of results, only half of which have any info. And quite frankly I am to adhd to scroll through 100+ messages.

 

[Sonsuka]

Is there a concrete basic guide, cause I was trial and erroring this and I screwed up the distortion plans. I saw something about chosen info carrying over so I'm not sure if I can do anything about it. and I don't get approach. I've very frustrated cause I wanna enjoy this game but I keep bashing my head into walls for hours until I don't wanna play anymore. And before anyone says "scroll" or "search" for this info, I did. There are a bunch of results, only half of which have any info. And quite frankly I am to adhd to scroll through 100+ messages.

Have you looked at the guide/info in the .txt file in the folder for the game?

 

[TheUninterestedplayer]

Anyone know how to edit the save files? tried the online save editor but apparently saves.sav files aren't supported there

 

[Deleted member 2541808]

Have you looked at the guide/info in the .txt file in the folder for the game?

....I may not have known that was there. thank you...

 

[rixadair]

Anyone know how to edit the save files? tried the online save editor but apparently saves.sav files aren't supported there

The ability to manually read/edit save files would be helpful for bug testing.

 

[Chekhovs_Ghost]

Is there a concrete basic guide, cause I was trial and erroring this and I screwed up the distortion plans. I saw something about chosen info carrying over so I'm not sure if I can do anything about it. and I don't get approach. I've very frustrated cause I wanna enjoy this game but I keep bashing my head into walls for hours until I don't wanna play anymore. And before anyone says "scroll" or "search" for this info, I did. There are a bunch of results, only half of which have any info. And quite frankly I am to adhd to scroll through 100+ messages.

Although I had completed a distortion in my first run, in hindsight I wish I had waited with distortions until my second/third run. There is something about the game that kinda subtly pushes you to do distortions. But they should be seen as stretch goals that make the gamr harder (with a nice reward afterward).

 

[Belgaz]

aw shit, uhhh... merry (late) chrima, CSdev! *whistles*

 

[RealEbbaBusch]

I never thought I was actually gonna comment on this site. I only made this account so i could download games.
I saw this game recommended on several posts, and i was very skeptic about a text based game like this. It seemed outdated from just the pictures. But i tried it and now im goddamn hooked. I've been playing for a couple days now and i barely understand shit. I've been playing cheatmode which makes the experience a bit more monotonous. But i still very much enjoy it. I love that there are different paths you can take to achieve victory and that even after i've played cheatmode that there are still things i dont understand. With almost every game i've ever played in my life i've more often than not figured out the entirety of the game after a couple hours of playing. But now with multiple days on this im only now starting to understand the core mechanics.

It's a new experience. And I never thought i would find it on this site, in this genre, and in this game. There is so much future potential aswell which just makes me more excited to see what can be done in future iterations. 10/10.

 

[Sharkie94]

...even after i've played cheatmode that there are still things i dont understand...

Ye,.... I had the entire site's resources occupied trying to explain whats going on for days.
I've long since given up on trying to understand the game - so I just play around
with full cheat enabled(without that I would have discarded the game long ago).

I wonder what the % is of people understanding the game fully vs people who would like to,
but are completely nuked by the obfuscated functionality.

 

[haksaw]

Don't play with cheats, that's a game abouth math porn, not just plain regular one. It's not THAT hard to understand if you try to. Read some step-by-step tutorials some guys posted here and think about some of their moves if you don't get them at the first glance.

 

[MoarDakka123]

I'm gonna go the other way and say play however you want to, if cheats let you close the game feeling more satisfied then by all means, go for it.

 

[Contemplative Yearning]

Speaking of this being a game about math; does anyone have a good rule of thumb for when it's useful to use a Forsaken or Suppressor/Defiler/Punisher Commander vs. just using a Surround Commander? Outside of breaking final vulnerabilities, or baiting Detonations obviously.
I keep finding that a regular Commander can more reliably set up longer duration Surrounds after the first Capture, in addition to Capturing multiple Chosen at once to cut down on trauma reduction from Rally, Distract or Striptease, and reducing the Extermination rate to let you get more even more Surrounds before the battle ends.

How can I make the extra damage to one or two circumstances measure up against that, short of using Completion to just nail all four right out the gate?

 

[haksaw]

How can I make the extra damage to one or two circumstances measure up against that

You can't. Ordinary commanders straight up better outside of some rare cases. I heard some use low EE forsaken before they get 5 EE commander, but I never found it all that useful. Main advantage of normal commanders is that you can use multiple of them at the same time, while with forsaken or defilers you can't. Even with Completion normal commander is still better for setups, it's just at that point you usually don't care anymore and want some fast fights to finish off some remaining vulns. But if you still need some big dmg, then normal commander it is.

 

[Chekhovs_Ghost]

Speaking of this being a game about math; does anyone have a good rule of thumb for when it's useful to use a Forsaken or Suppressor/Defiler/Punisher Commander vs. just using a Surround Commander? Outside of breaking final vulnerabilities, or baiting Detonations obviously.
I keep finding that a regular Commander can more reliably set up longer duration Surrounds after the first Capture, in addition to Capturing multiple Chosen at once to cut down on trauma reduction from Rally, Distract or Striptease, and reducing the Extermination rate to let you get more even more Surrounds before the battle ends.

How can I make the extra damage to one or two circumstances measure up against that, short of using Completion to just nail all four right out the gate?

Mostly I agree. However there are instances, especially before you get networked consciousness where a defiler really helps because you don't have to spend turns telling them what to attack. They are much more tightly planned and sometimes take 2 or 3 reloads to get right.

Another time for it is after you get reality sealing, because now the extra turns from the ambush can be used to set up more damage multiplication.

And I find that when planning specific outcomes, using a punisher can be very useful for taking someone from 250-300% to in range of T5 break in one go. Though this can be difficult too.

That covers the exceptions to "just go with a surround demon" or "just send a forsaken".

I suppose there is also onr more flavor reason of doing so. If you want to take a virginity for yourself, you need to use a non standard commander.

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Forsaken also have the strict advantage that they can do unlimited captures.

 

[Belgaz]

i hope something good comes out tomorrow, i like seeing the progress this game's made

 

[Sonsuka]

I never thought I was actually gonna comment on this site. I only made this account so i could download games.
I saw this game recommended on several posts, and i was very skeptic about a text based game like this. It seemed outdated from just the pictures. But i tried it and now im goddamn hooked. I've been playing for a couple days now and i barely understand shit. I've been playing cheatmode which makes the experience a bit more monotonous. But i still very much enjoy it. I love that there are different paths you can take to achieve victory and that even after i've played cheatmode that there are still things i dont understand. With almost every game i've ever played in my life i've more often than not figured out the entirety of the game after a couple hours of playing. But now with multiple days on this im only now starting to understand the core mechanics.

It's a new experience. And I never thought i would find it on this site, in this genre, and in this game. There is so much future potential aswell which just makes me more excited to see what can be done in future iterations. 10/10.

If you need help understand you can ask forum, lot people willing help if you’re confused. Also make sure check the guide.txt in folder