Java Corrupted Saviors [Release 70b] [CSDev]

[Potatoeswastaken]

No, just keep raising it, you'll see the switch eventually.

Alright thanks!

 

[Edger]

Is the latest version bugged? whenever I load a save game it starts me in a battle instead (Round 1) of where I usually save which is before a battle.

 

[DisasterOnLegs]

sorry to bother you, but how do you use this and suntorn dawn?
do you need to replace them ingame in profile->change portrait?
or does it generate a chosen ingame with the portraits

1st Questuion. Excuse me for extra late reply. Suntorn dawn(as far as I understand), when generating normal chosen, chooses ones that come with the pack(if you took steps to upload the team prior to starting the run). The gap, as I noticed, was in later loops, where Chosen species become common, but there were no good avatars for such chosen, so I filled the gap and shared it with yall. The way you use it is do the whole thing with suntorn dawn, get it all uploaded and insert the prepared team into campaign. Also download my pack alongside it as it doesn't conflict with any existing files. Play with it, until chosen species appear, then assign a chosen species appropriate picture.

2nd Question. Yes, as implied in main post,packs don't apply themselves on chosen with a diffrent name. So you need to do it by hand, as name generation exists and so does variation, that messes with auto-assigning pictures. Of course the "easy" fix is making your team, that will eventually show up in the run buuuut at that point I was kinda on low energy, and didn't get into it. As a main way to use it, yep, do as I did and change profile pics, choosing the one you like. Its My intention to make it easier with txt file thatputs all info in 1 place.

3rd Queastiounion. Sometimes it does! But only for bosses consistently. That's why you must replace the bosses and not just insert it...maybe I should've changed the file type so it auto-pings for replacement, eh. I'll do it later...someday...anyway...many names come from the game, so there is a chance of generating a chosen that grabs the folder specified for it, as usually it assigns itself other existing folder, when not finding its own.

It seems the game is making great steps of change and I'm excited to return and tinker with things I haven't before, certainly starting a new campaign, so maybe custom chosen creation is on top of my list. Eh, time will come. Ask prophets or Maya tablets, when the next disaster comes, I'll be there, on time I promise.

 

[Potatoeswastaken]

Could you please explain how exactly the trauma thresholds for higher EE levels works?

According to the website its:

150-200 for 1 EE

~50K for 2 EE

~2M for 5 EE

~500M for 15 EE

~1T for 50 EE

I'm on loop 3 and I can't make sense of how much EE is actually required for each level. It seems significantly higher than previous loops and not at all consistent.

I.e The following are two days where I loaded the save for both and redid the days, so these days aren't connected but hopefully you can understand my confusion.

Day 9 98% of Trauma needed 4.73M Disg (+1EE)

Day 10 44% of Trauma needed 3.87M Disg (+2EE)

The other traumas are rounding errors so I've not included them. From what I understand if a greater amount could be generated GSI would be mentioned instead of the % and its not mentioned. Also I have the necessary vulnerability breaks for both T1 and T2 in both cases.

Finally the levels required for +15EE have fluctuated massively with 1T and 10G in my first run through and when I've gone back to a save of the T3 break respectively.

Sorry for the essay but I figured the more detail I could give the better.

 

[aumhs]

Could you please explain how exactly the trauma thresholds for higher EE levels works?

According to the website its:

150-200 for 1 EE

~50K for 2 EE

~2M for 5 EE

~500M for 15 EE

~1T for 50 EE

I'm on loop 3 and I can't make sense of how much EE is actually required for each level. It seems significantly higher than previous loops and not at all consistent.

I.e The following are two days where I loaded the save for both and redid the days, so these days aren't connected but hopefully you can understand my confusion.

Day 9 98% of Trauma needed 4.73M Disg (+1EE)

Day 10 44% of Trauma needed 3.87M Disg (+2EE)

The other traumas are rounding errors so I've not included them. From what I understand if a greater amount could be generated GSI would be mentioned instead of the % and its not mentioned. Also I have the necessary vulnerability breaks for both T1 and T2 in both cases.

Finally the levels required for +15EE have fluctuated massively with 1T and 10G in my first run through and when I've gone back to a save of the T3 break respectively.

Sorry for the essay but I figured the more detail I could give the better.

There are 2 variables affecting how much trauma is needed, both described on the wiki.

The chosen's morality score:

They also require varying amounts of Trauma + ANGST, and these amounts vary based on a number called Morality that you can't see, but can infer. The

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start with a Morality score that is equal to the amount of damage an unmodified Threaten action does to them (when they have no Angst and you have not yet purchased Polymorphism). Their Morality score drops at each MOR break, and there are similar internal numbers for the other Traumas/Circumstance, but only that one determines what Downtime actions they take.

And, more easy to miss, and probably causing your problem, luxuries don't just increase trauma recovery, but the thresholds for the downtime actions as well:

Remember that all of these will be multiplied by the Luxuries if you're in any [Loop] after 1.

 

[Potatoeswastaken]

There are 2 variables affecting how much trauma is needed, both described on the wiki.

The chosen's morality score:


And, more easy to miss, and probably causing your problem, luxuries don't just increase trauma recovery, but the thresholds for the downtime actions as well:

Ah ok, that certainly helps explain alot, thanks!
But I'm still very confused about this, in my first run through I managed to make it to loop 7 and none of the city modifiers were THIS crippling.

The luxuries (+233%) are the only modifier so I'm assuming it's luxuries x10+ Morality?

I started it over so I could keep better track of it and the increased amount seems to be about x26 the base.

I'm probably going to switch cities because Its too difficult for me at this stage in the game but for future reference what should I be doing against such a high Trauma requirement?

 

[Celerarity]

I'm probably going to switch cities because Its too difficult for me at this stage in the game but for future reference what should I be doing against such a high Trauma requirement?

Deal more trauma!

 

[aumhs]

I'm probably going to switch cities because Its too difficult for me at this stage in the game but for future reference what should I be doing against such a high Trauma requirement?

The rule of thumb is, if you can get them into a long orgy, you can punch through pretty much every trauma requirement. Getting to that point might require some decent forsaken in later loops though.

 

[Potatoeswastaken]

The rule of thumb is, if you can get them into a long orgy, you can punch through pretty much every trauma requirement. Getting to that point might require some decent forsaken in later loops though.

Yeah having switched to the other city I think it came down to being a bad match up for the forsaken I had and the way I wanted to play since I think my desired distortions were some of the harder ones to achieve.

The other city was very easy at least

 

[CSdev]

The issue isnt a save, I couldnt even open the game, it was just a black screen

When you start up the game, it takes a look at your saves.sav file in order to determine stuff like what text size the game should be displaying. But if there's something wrong with your saves.sav file and the game can't read it, then the game might crash immediately upon starting. So, if you send the file to me, I can try to fix it.

Could you display the "natural" value for a Demon Knight somewhere? It's possible to claculate it form disgrace, but it would be more comfortable if we can just read it somewhere.

This is a good idea. I'll make a note to add it to the Forsaken summary screen in the next release.

So I typed "C" in the campaign daily menu... The Java window tried to Fullscreen and now all the fonts/buttons are super tiny.
I can increase the font slightly with the size option, but is there a way to go back to before it tried to do this?
Look at those button sizes!

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I'm not sure what's happening here. If you send me your saves.sav file, I'll take a look.

So far only one issue i found was when customizing a male demon body. One of the wings have its name in blank, that's about it. Still taking it slow and enjoying the game

Thanks for the bug report - I'll make sure to fix this in the next version.

I might've found something else, i'll describe it as best as i can. My current setting is only males, they all are femboys crossdressing (including demon lord). Sometimes when the game is trying to describe, i think, their clothes being stripped, it runs into some kind of problem and the action is only partly described. Take a look at this photograph (thanks Nickelback) :

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Look at the " Expo Up! " section. Notice how there was supposed to be a section of the action description where it would say something about his clothes? That's what happens every so often with different kinds of clothes. I'll attach a save in case the dev wants to take a look, maybe it's just me. I didn't do any modding with the game code or anything, it's as vanilla as it was in the patreon post.

The EXPO up messages depend on the Chosen's clothing destruction state, and that's one of the few things that's completely random in the game, so it might be tough to track down what's causing this bug. But thanks for the .sav file anyway, I'll see if I can figure it out.

I can't use a demon commander anymore? After getting my first femboy forsaken, i click the Use Demon button and it does...nothing? Here's the photograph and the saves, i don't know if it's just me or a bug?
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that also happened to me in my last game, use demon button does nothing.

by the way im completely unable to hit 100 millions on judgement to beat her, i dont remember how I beat her the last time (if i did)

Thanks for quickly reporting this bug as well. It should be working properly in R64b.

Is the latest version bugged? whenever I load a save game it starts me in a battle instead (Round 1) of where I usually save which is before a battle.

I changed some of the logic surrounding whether the game loads you into battle or into the shop in the previous version, since there was some other buggy behavior there. But the fix might've introduced a new bug, so if you can send me the .sav file where this is happening, I can take a look.

 

[jess7979]

When you start up the game, it takes a look at your saves.sav file in order to determine stuff like what text size the game should be displaying. But if there's something wrong with your saves.sav file and the game can't read it, then the game might crash immediately upon starting. So, if you send the file to me, I can try to fix it.

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[Potatoeswastaken]

So my computer shut down as I was saving the game and now all of my saves are gone. Does anyone know how to fix this or do I need to start again?

 

[McHuman]

So my computer shut down as I was saving the game and now all of my saves are gone. Does anyone know how to fix this or do I need to start again?

Sounds like you probably suffered save file corruption, or in other words you're probably SoL and need to restart.

 

[tuxpuppy]

Hey there,

I was working through the guide posted on the wiki when I hit day 3 with the first encounter with Royal.
I'm not sure what is happening, but when I finish the day with the execution, and evacuation the file locks up.
It stays on the battle screen, and doesn't go to the post combat scenes whenI select continue.

Any idea what might be going on here?

 

[CSdev]

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I tried loading this save on my end and it worked fine. Have you tried to open it since R64 came out?

So my computer shut down as I was saving the game and now all of my saves are gone. Does anyone know how to fix this or do I need to start again?

Sounds like you probably suffered save file corruption, or in other words you're probably SoL and need to restart.

Yes, unfortunately, closing the game while it's trying to save can just result in the save's information not being stored, which means that it's probably gone for good.

Hey there,

I was working through the guide posted on the wiki when I hit day 3 with the first encounter with Royal.
I'm not sure what is happening, but when I finish the day with the execution, and evacuation the file locks up.
It stays on the battle screen, and doesn't go to the post combat scenes whenI select continue.

Any idea what might be going on here?

I tried playing through the guide just now and it didn't crash for me. I suppose it's possible that something in one of your other save files might be causing an issue, so if you send me the .sav file, I can take a look.

 

[madember]

Don't have a screenshot or save file for this but had a bug happen to me the other day involving Hot Tag.

Used a Forsaken with Orgy in addition to the Demon Commander via Hot Tag. I started an orgy with said Forsaken, wanted to switch to my Demon Commander when only 1 turn of the Orgy remained so I can capture a flying Chosen the next turn and that locked up the game.

 

[Shasou]

Can i ask why we still don't have the "Trap" and "Gay" tags on this game here on F95? This game has content for both of those tags and i think assigning them to the game here would help bring in more people, especially those looking for games that have more than just straight content. The player can customize what type of content they want in the game, straight, futa and gay/traps.

 

[McHuman]

Can i ask why we still don't have the "Trap" and "Gay" tags on this game here on F95? This game has content for both of those tags and i think assigning them to the game here would help bring in more people, especially those looking for games that have more than just straight content. The player can customize what type of content they want in the game, straight, futa and gay/traps.

The game originally focused solely on female Chosen and males were only added later iirc, and the thread owner actively involved with this thread beyond updating the download links. So if you want the tags updated you'd have to report the first post for the reason "other" and list the missing tags in the more info box.

 

[Potatoeswastaken]

Could someone help me with forsaken training?

I've got to round 3 and have the alt city route unlocked

I went with the negotiation distortion for all 3 chosen

I've got 2 days of training in loop 3 and I think 11 in loop 4

I know I want the top one to be an ANTI breaker but I'm not sure what to do with the Superior

I've messed around quite a bit but I've run into two main problems

1. I can't get the cost down significantly without adding EXPO/ keeping EXPO as a damage
2. I definitely feel like I'm not utilising the Superior(Freedom) properly, they just seem much weaker than other superior I've had in my previous run, and are less useful at 10EE and 1000% PLEA than the 6EE with 1000% EXPO.

(I'm aware of the damage types and how they interact but I had a superior forsaken in a previous run at the same cost and damage type that was much stronger so clearly I'm doing something wrong)

Anyway if anyone has any advice to train them it's appreciated.

 

[DarkHelmutt]

Any word on using EE to modify forsaken? With all the new chosen, a few extra percent of damage is going to be useful.