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So I have been "talking" with Kinu, and I have to say, I just do not see most annoyances people have with her. I mean, yeah, her getting together with someone seconds after exiting the plane is jarring to say the least, but at least listening to her talking about Nakano is cute. And Nakano talking about her is also one of few times I can actually see what she sees in him.
In my opinion, she just doesn't do anything interesting or give me any reason to really care. She's not particularly attached to the PC, we're not really given any reason to feel emotionally attached to her past being told we're meant to be, we have basically zero input on her as an adult character or ability to roleplay around her, she's just kind of there.
Forcing long pov story scenes focused on this character we don't give a shit about going through events we also don't give a shit about is just obnoxious. Particularly when in one path they end up with possibly the least likable NPC in the entire game, who has absolutely nothing compelling in his writing in the slightest and is effectively just a shitty samurai stereotype.

The whole thing is just a bit off for side content with a major time skip. Would probably work better if it was the main romance in a story, but when she's your 30th kid and her mother is one of 20 women you regularly hook up with while you regularly wander around screwing demons and ruining lives it just rings a bit false, to me. It's kind of true for all of that content though, it's like it was written for a set PC and anyone different was just completely ignored.

Should have just aged her up a few years or something, so we can see the impact we had, while keeping her a recognisable character instead of someone completely different to the point of effectively being a whole new NPC.

It's just weird content for a game so completely focused on customization.
 

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In my opinion, she just doesn't do anything interesting or give me any reason to really care. She's not particularly attached to the PC, we're not really given any reason to feel emotionally attached to her past being told we're meant to be, we have basically zero input on her as an adult character or ability to roleplay around her, she's just kind of there.
I feel like, if you have interacted with her while she was your little girl, you get enough reason to care for her. Especially with events such as her being sick or her interaction with you when you play with her or give her food. The feeling of not being able to role play around her when she grows up is one I can get behind. But I feel that is feeling can be expanded to the rest of the game. Your PC is not really you to begin with. You are not really being able to roleplay. Which I mean, sucks, since this game is DND inspired (what is not these days). But at same time, I will give Observer some credit. You interacting with her as a little girl has a lot of variation and it does have many decisions that do impact dialogue and it does lead her to take one of 2 paths.

The whole thing is just a bit off for side content with a major time skip. Would probably work better if it was the main romance in a story, but when she's your 30th kid and her mother is one of 20 women you regularly hook up with while you regularly wander around screwing demons and ruining lives it just rings a bit false, to me. It's kind of true for all of that content though, it's like it was written for a set PC and anyone different was just completely ignored.
With your last part I somewhat agree. This is one of few porn games where I do feel kind of weird and guilty for promising my love to a lot of women and some men. But I only propose to men when I can live out my fundashi fantasies). But at same time, It does kind of empower you. You are so good at dicking down, that half of the people you fuck just can not get you out of your head. Even the sluties of girl such Cait and Elthara can not help but toot your horn while fucking other people. Hell you are so good, that Brint, the perfect bro and polyamory husband, praises you on how you are compareble/better to Cait, the priestes of sex god, even if you did not touch him. You emit such sexual arua that imagining sex with you is already better then having sex then with most people. And other half give up on fucking anyone else but you (Kiyoko and Brienne as most popular examples). Which is basic as sexual fantasies goes, but why fix what is not broken.

And while it is true that if you do not care about Kiyoko that much, all of those declarations of love can feel kind of empty. But that can be said for a lot of characters in this game. If you do not care about them, you will feel disonence with the game since PC, as we established, is much of a character themselves (somewhat incosistant but what can you do) as anyone else. Not best for roleplaying but it does its job in my opinion.
And I for one love Kiyoko in this game. A classy aristocratic girl that is strict yet cares for you kids children, keeps up her royal image for everyone else but really only opens up to you (heh) and shows her more carnal side. That of natural born mother that is always ready to birth more of your children. And even despite your difference in statues, you both see each other as equals and lovers (especially if your PC is a warrior or comes from slums. ). I especially love taling with her and I find her interaction with my Futa PC one of the sweetest yet entertaining in the game. Her drunken bath scene is so sweet. Especially if you refuse to have sex with her.

And when it comes to Kinu as a child, I am sorry, but she is not compareble to rest of your children. Almost every other child you make or birth just end up being of another stat. Which I think is the best because I, like most men and some women, have impregnation and pregnancy fetish, but caring for children is not really something most of us care for. Which does make me somewhat contradict myself by saying that I enjoy spending time with Kinu at both stages of life. But she is exception.
And her being only child that you can interact with that is not part of other characters scene is nice. Which makes her more unique.

Should have just aged her up a few years or something, so we can see the impact we had, while keeping her a recognisable character instead of someone completely different to the point of effectively being a whole new NPC.
This is where I disagree with you most. Sure she changed, but it makes sense, at least in hime route. She still keeps a lot of her manerism and Is polite as ever. She just acts more mature, but still keeps a lot of her childlike mannerism.

In the end it sucks that we can not go all alabama with her, but I just can not see eye to eye with people. Now excuse me, I have to have sex with one of my many wives.
 
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I feel like, if you have interacted with her while she was your little girl, you get enough reason to care for her. Especially with events such as her being sick or her interaction with you when you play with her or give her food.
And as a child I might agree, but she's not identifiably the same person at all as an adult. I have no connection to this character, past being told that my character cares (which they shouldn't, if I'm doing a corrupted run). The content with her as a kid is mostly fine, I don't take any issue with it really, outside still just being lacking in options for corrupted people.

She's not really the players child, you can't rely on an assumption that we'll just automatically care in a story. You also can't give us this assumption that we care and want to be involved in their life, and then give us no real ability to actually be involved in their life in any meaningful way.

I also don't find her hime route compelling at all, frankly. She just comes across as kind of snotty and boring, like a shittier version of her mother except without any of the effort into the personal connection her mother has with you. There's not really any interesting conflicts in her character or anything to make me care. She then proceeds to get into a relationship with probably the worst character in the entire game, which I have zero input on and am expected to read about and be happy with anyway, despite him persistently just being awful to the PC.

And when it comes to Kinu as a child, I am sorry, but she is not compareble to rest of your children. Almost every other child you make or birth just end up being of another stat.
Right, which is an issue with how she's written considering the context of the rest of the game. Why am I supposed to care more about this child than my other dozens of children who I never visit? Why would I care to see her pov of things if I treat her the same way we're expected to treat all the other children? Why give us her pov when it contributes nothing to the story and we have zero influence on it anyway? Is she the main character?

I don't really care about the incest side of things (heresy, I know), but all of her writing relies way too hard on telling us how we feel, rather than letting us choose how we feel based on the content.

Also, on a side note, I was reading up on Kinu a bit while writing this and found this delightful TOB quote.

"People in that range are often very lonely because they're simply unable to communicate effectively with the vast majority of people around them -- talking to someone outside of a 30 IQ band from you is nigh-impossible if you're not making a dedicated effort to do so or if your intelligence is low on the verbal spectrum. There's a saying in the circles I run in that the king's job is to translate the wizard's mad ramblings into policy that his subjects can understand"

I'd add something witty to this, but I feel like it does it best by itself lol.
 
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I love how half of this post has nothing to do with the one character you're talking about having a discussion about...
Lost some of sense direction when writing there. Still, the only part I feel that does not belong there is about Kiyoko, but I can delete it anyway. But I am not going to since it really feels bad deleting something I spent insignificent amount of time in writing and I would feel bad If I did not waste anyones time.

But I do stand what I said about Kinu. And I mean, I just enjoy seeing you people complain. Especially since it will get you nowhere. Same with any praise here. I am just here for discussion.
 
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Does anyone here use character portrait feature? It seems simple, but I waste so much time in drawing or just searching for a portrait that I like. But it is worth it, since it helps me better visualize my character in scenes, mostly ones involving sexual conduct. This one is the one I am most happy with, since It matches my character face to a tee. A futa manticore. I just like the smugness of the pick.
 

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Does anyone here use character portrait feature? It seems simple, but I waste so much time in drawing or just searching for a portrait that I like. But it is worth it, since it helps me better visualize my character in scenes, mostly ones involving sexual conduct. This one is the one I am most happy with, since It matches my character face to a tee. A futa manticore. I just like the smugness of the pick.
Sadly me. Hours spent looking at art that matches most of what I'm going for with my character lol. Right now I use this one for my plant bitch (basically wild elf start with plant skin wild mark) although it isn't exactly the hair/skin color of my char.

 

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Reading posts here, I'll say that I try to avoid scenes involving Cait with certain NPCs and turning the Amulet of Transference into Amulet of Union.

It pains me to see Berry downing his frustrations with Cait on me while he's the one getting "cucked" by Cait. I don't really mind Cait; she's like a great sister who have my back who satisfies my voyeur fetish, much like Brint with Arona. I just don't want to see NPCs get too attached to Cait, because for all we know, she's Mallach's holy town bicycle that has no commitment whatsoever other than to her sister Calla.

And the Amulet of Transference? The way it's set up is like Keros wants to trick me into feeding my soul to him via "owning" my family. I don't blame Kiyoko, since it wasn't her fault to be there in the first place
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I merely use the Amulet of Transference as a way of accompanying Kiyoko everytime I'm asleep. I hate to see her trapped forever there but I can't do anything, really, because I play as female.
 
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I used to be a patreon for CoC 2 and gave them a lot of money but I quit and now pirate the game and talk shit about them on F95 because they're *an essay about various writers and why they're literally George Bush, Satan and Hitler combined because they don't cater to my fetish*. That'll show them!
We're all just wasting time here man, don't think anyone is taking it that seriously. I don't have anything against the devs overall, plenty of issues with them still but as far as porn games go they're super consistent.
 

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Does anyone here use character portrait feature? It seems simple, but I waste so much time in drawing or just searching for a portrait that I like. But it is worth it, since it helps me better visualize my character in scenes, mostly ones involving sexual conduct. This one is the one I am most happy with, since It matches my character face to a tee. A futa manticore. I just like the smugness of the pick.
Ironically I only wanted to in TiTS, if I knew how to do it or if it even has 1.
 
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Okay now there is finally actual corruption in the game but it comes across as too goofy to be sexy which is a shame. I mean who writes 'yeeting' for a desciption about throwing people into a pool of honey. Also noticed in some of the sex scenes they mention god a lot just exactly is this god they speak of? Kind of funny that they write an essay for every sex scene for immersion purposes only to completely break it by making references to real world things that make no sense in the context of the game or to make cringy meme references.

However new Moira art is soooo good.
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On the art side of things they are nailing it and its good to finally see some corruption choices. Just need to trim the dialogue and stop making sexy scenes too goofy.
 

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I hope dragons are implemented soon, I know the next big thing is Minotaur city but a man can dream of scaly beasts

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Well clearly you should be playing TiTs instead xD
Yeah... I'd be honestly surprised if we got any dragon stuff anytime soon. Considering the closest thing we got to that was a random enemy wyvern and a salamander TF which both of them are pretty much just anime dragon girls. While there's a lot of furry stuff, I'm wondering if scalies is even a possibility since Bunnies got replaced with humans with rabbit ears. There's a chance that they decided that all dragon characters or TF content are human-like in this universe. You never know with these guys...
 

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Huh, that maybe true. Maybe it could also explain why he was not aware of her in the dream world. Since it was not originaly his, but from OG god.
I have to admit that I liked the twist. It had some nice world building, it was entertaining to read through and it actually makes me excited for some potential endings of the game. Maybe one where, if you are evil enough, you can go and do Kassyra job and reshape the world, and later other dimension, to your liking. Since we know that even this world gods can be overthrown, maybe we can become one.
I am just wondering. What do you mean by Keros "owning me and our family".

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